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Title: Message to Pete
Post by: ohiorider on June 15, 2020, 10:33:25 AM
Is there any way I can post a question to Pete Roper.  He's using 'guest' status, so cannot send a PM.  In the event anyone else might know the answer, is there any way I can change the electronic odometer reading on my 12S dashboard to make it reflect actual mileage?

When the LCD panel went blank 4 years ago, I was fortunate to find a member with a spare panel from a B1100.  Of course, it was a used dash, showing several thousand miles.  I've been able to work with it easily enough.  I've set up a small Excel spreadsheet that lets me enter the mileage shown on the B11 dash, and convert it to actual mileage.

However, after all these years, the 1200 Sport will be going to a new owner, and I'd like to know ahead of time if there's a solution to reset the odometer to read actual current mileage.

Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.

Bob
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: tris on June 15, 2020, 11:46:26 AM
I can't help with a Pete contact but it can be done I believe.

Problem is that the only places I'm 90% sure can do it are both this side of the Atlantic, Carmo in Holland and Scorpio here in the UK

Sorry I can't help much, but with some luck someone else will be along who can help more

Tris

Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: Bisbonian on June 15, 2020, 12:23:01 PM
Carmo had previously told me they could do it but there were some hoops they would need to jump through to keep things on the up-and-up. I don't remember what was involved, if I ever actually knew, as this was a few years back.
I had a replacement dash which I was getting repaired and I wanted the correct mileage on it.

I never ended up getting the mileage changed.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: tris on June 15, 2020, 12:53:28 PM
Typically I think that was stop you "clocking" the bike.

Shouldn't be a problem for the OP as I suspect he'll be putting the figure UP  :police:
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: Huzo on June 15, 2020, 03:13:37 PM
Could you just find an old topic that he’s posted and bump it with your question ?
If you’d asked last week, I could have brought it up while we were having coffee... :sad:
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: beetle on June 15, 2020, 03:44:03 PM
It can't be done.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: tris on June 15, 2020, 04:42:32 PM
My mistake, I was under the impression it could be done if you took the clocks apart and accessed the board directly to talk to the chip
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: beetle on June 15, 2020, 05:00:19 PM
That would be be..illegal...


 :police:


Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: GeorgiaGuzzi on June 16, 2020, 08:51:29 AM
That would be be..illegal...


 :police:

Only if you’re caught 😉
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: NC Steve on June 16, 2020, 11:33:28 AM
I'll send a message to Pete, and tell him to check in over here...
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: wirespokes on June 16, 2020, 11:58:56 AM
I got the idea miles would be added, not subtracted. Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: Tom H on June 16, 2020, 12:30:21 PM
I don't know if this helps at all, but I think Speedhut and Harley will set a new speedo to your miles. So it's not completely illegal to reset a speedo. Maybe check with Speedhut??

Tom
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: Bulldog9 on June 16, 2020, 12:56:14 PM
Bob,

Thanks for the offer, no need to do this. I appreciate the effort though!
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: NC Steve on June 16, 2020, 04:22:54 PM
I don't know if this helps at all, but I think Speedhut and Harley will set a new speedo to your miles. So it's not completely illegal to reset a speedo. Maybe check with Speedhut??

Tom

Palo Alto speedo shop has been rebuilding gauges for many years, in particular for older BMWs, and they always add the existing mileage from the old speedo to the new one before sending it back.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: bad Chad on June 16, 2020, 05:52:52 PM
Rebuilding an old school clock is nothing like fixing a modern unit.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: TimmyTheHog on June 16, 2020, 06:27:26 PM
I know he is quite active on ADVrider Forum if that amounts to anything.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: wirespokes on June 16, 2020, 06:56:45 PM
I know he is quite active on ADVrider Forum if that amounts to anything.
ADVrider is a big place. What's his user name and which forum does he frequent?

I think after 20 years the mileage on the odometer is a non issue. But before that I'd be careful. However, if all you're trying to do is match the new speedo to the current mileage, what's the harm in that, especially if you're adding, not subtracting miles? And what if you install a new speedo with zero miles, then sell the bike with 2500 when actual mileage is really 30K?

No one will fault you for adding miles, and no one will fine you for installing a new zero miles unit. Where it gets ugly is subtracting miles misrepresenting what it really is. Would anyone here do that???
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: NC Steve on June 16, 2020, 07:16:49 PM
Pete's been contacted, and should be or has responded back to the OP by now.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: beetle on June 16, 2020, 08:16:49 PM
He'll say the same thing I did.

Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: n3303j on June 16, 2020, 09:01:01 PM
I think the law actually forbids misrepresenting the mileage of a vehicle, not adjusting the odometer to reflect the correct mileage on the vehicle.

Massachusetts documentation for a sale includes a statement that the mileage displayed on the odometer does (or does not, check one and sign) represent the true mileage on the vehicle. It mentions nothing about whether or not the odometer was replaced or adjusted to produce the reading. Just a question concerning the accuracy of the reading.

I'm curious. Are you looking to advance the odometer? How does the odometer get its signal? The old BMW K100 had an electronic speedometer that worked off a Holl sensor at the final drive. To calibrate the analog speedo needle you could just put the Holl sensor on top of the body of an old Weller pistol soldering gun. When you pulled the trigger on the soldering gun the AC field through the transformer pulsing at 60 CPS  produced a speedometer reading somewhere around 50 mph (forget exact number). But it did run the speedo. Perhaps you could advance your device similarly.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: beetle on June 16, 2020, 09:43:38 PM
Advancing an odometer is one thing, and could be done through such trickery, but I though the OP wanted to reduce the odometer reading to reflect the mileage of the actual bike? That's not possible.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: wirespokes on June 17, 2020, 12:27:17 AM
I've asked if mileage needed to be added or subtracted, but ohiorider hasn't been back since he opened the thread. From the way it was worded it sounded likely that he wanted to add mileage rather than subtract.
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: Bulldog9 on June 17, 2020, 06:36:36 AM
Advancing an odometer is one thing, and could be done through such trickery, but I though the OP wanted to reduce the odometer reading to reflect the mileage of the actual bike? That's not possible.

Mark,  I'm the next owner of the Sport. Bob, being the great guy he is wants to add mileage to the odometer so it reflects accurate current mileage. He did a dash change 5 years ago at 68K miles or so.  I'm not worried about it, just thrilled to have a 1200 Sport. Have wanted one for a while now. 
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: beetle on June 17, 2020, 06:52:08 AM
Mark,  I'm the next owner of the Sport. Bob, being the great guy he is wants to add mileage to the odometer so it reflects accurate current mileage. He did a dash change 5 years ago at 68K miles or so.  I'm not worried about it, just thrilled to have a 1200 Sport. Have wanted one for a while now. 


 
Case closed.


 :thumb:
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: oldbike54 on June 17, 2020, 07:18:43 AM

 
Case closed.


 :thumb:

 Yes , it is .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: Bulldog9 on June 17, 2020, 12:47:55 PM
Yes , it is .

 Dusty

Until I start pestering you all with pics of the new ride.......  :evil:
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: Yeahoo Whoyah on June 17, 2020, 06:33:56 PM
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Is there any way I can post a question to Pete Roper.

He's quite an active poster as a member of the Aprilia Forum (hosted by AF1 Racing).  You can PM him if you are a forum member.  There is a Moto Guzzi sub-forum. 
Title: Re: Message to Pete
Post by: oldbike54 on June 17, 2020, 07:20:27 PM
Until I start pestering you all with pics of the new ride.......  :evil:

  :thumb:

 Dusty