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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: lucian on June 16, 2020, 06:16:59 PM
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Sorry no motorcycle content but I have an electrical concern I thought I would seek advice on. My daughter purchased a toaster on line which was made in china. It is called a steam toaster and all the instructions are in Chinese. It seems it has a small water tray to create steam and other than that it looks like a normal toaster oven type design. I could not find a UL listing tag anywhere and was always under the impression the electrical devices such as this needed to be ul certified before being available here. Maybe I'm mistaken but do you think I should trust this thing to be safe? TIA dave
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State and local municipalities may have laws on the books concerning if a product requires UL or ETL certification. Mass. and Cal. are the two states I'm aware of . The feds leave it up to them unless the Govt. is buying a product. My $.02
Paul B :boozing:
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In commercial construction, it is required that all electrical items be "third party tested and listed" as safe electrically.
I have also found things from overseas without labels, I return them.
Once I had a sales rep show me some LED light fixtures. I asked where the UL label was and he said they would be glad to "print one" for free LOL.
Run, don't walk to the place you return these if it is not listed.
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I agree, I can't remember seeing an electrical appliance here without a UL tag on it somewhere. And something about putting a tray of water in with an electric toaster just seems wrong.
Thanks for the replies!
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Sorry no motorcycle content but I have an electrical concern I thought I would seek advice on. My daughter purchased a toaster on line which was made in china. It is called a steam toaster and all the instructions are in Chinese. It seems it has a small water tray to create steam and other than that it looks like a normal toaster oven type design. I could not find a UL listing tag anywhere and was always under the impression the electrical devices such as this needed to be ul certified before being available here. Maybe I'm mistaken but do you think I should trust this thing to be safe? TIA dave
Is it CE Certified? This European standard has more teeth than the UL Certification.
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Is it CE Certified? This European standard has more teeth than the UL Certification.
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Forgive me for getting up on my soap box, but in a previous life the company I worked for had to deal with UL and as part of my job I sometimes had to deal with them. UL does very little if any testing themselves. We did all the testing ourselves to there spec. filled out the paperwork and sent it to them, that was it. Once every few years they would send someone in to do an audit to make sure all was documented properly and once in a while they would even witness a test. The problem with UL is they have so many different specs. that you can get approval for nearly anything provided you go for the rite spec. A 5 ft extension cord can have a UL rating, the spec being no more than 10 amps at 120 volts indoors uncovered in a dry area. Pretty simple to make one that fits that bill but It will get a UL sticker. Unless you know what standard the device is approved for the UL tag may not mean what you think. I really don't think to much of UL but that's mostly all we have in this country so I guess you can say it's better than nothing, maybe.