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Title: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: ratguzzi on June 18, 2020, 04:33:24 PM
Been riding most of my life, over a million miles now and I never knew that when you park your bike on the side stand, you should turn the handlebars to the left.
I usually do to the right because they end up that way as I get off the bike because of more room. And also when I get on. I just started noticing most parked bikes are turned to the left.
JB
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Zoom Zoom on June 18, 2020, 04:45:48 PM
I'm curious, is this just an observation or is there a logical reason? Just asking because I never really gave it much thought.

ZZ
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Bisbonian on June 18, 2020, 04:53:58 PM
I'm curious, is this just an observation or is there a logical reason? Just asking because I never really gave it much thought.

ZZ

There is a logical reason. Turning the bars to the left tends to provide a little extra stability.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: bassa99 on June 18, 2020, 05:18:33 PM
All  I can offer is any motorcycle  I have owned to lock forks they must be turned to left. I never lock mine and always turn to right.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Ncdan on June 18, 2020, 05:38:15 PM
With a bike like my Ex 1400 tourer, when the bars were turned to the left the bike leaned over to a point it was a little diff to stand it up. With any bike with this design if one turns the bars to the right it will stand the bike upright quite a bit more, thus making it much easier to stand the bike up. Try it sometime and smile. 😄
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 18, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
I've found with that big honkin' Cal Vin sidestand it doesn't matter, A big switch form the LeMans toothpick sidestand  :thumb:
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: lucian on June 18, 2020, 06:14:22 PM
I learned this one the hard way. Parked my 1400 custom in the driveway and got off with the bars turned all the way to the right. Went in the garage and heard a crash, sure enough the bars turned themselves back to the left and because of the rake,the bike pulled itself forward off the side stand. Luckily only damage to the the bike was a bent clutch lever, as it fell into the side of my work van.  Cruiser owners beware
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: BobA on June 18, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
If you have a "Gamey" left leg/knee and the bars are turned left a right side entry is easily accomplished. Even if you are lifting yourself up and over via the foot-peg. Just an FYI. Have done it on occasion even on my Harley touring models, but Never with Harley guys watching!! They'll readily accuse you of being a Communist and/or pervert at best!! Lol
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: ozarquebus on June 18, 2020, 07:45:21 PM
has anybody ever welded the bracket from a convert or g5 for the LOOOONG type sidestand in place of one of the "toothpick" style sidestands on the SP or Le Mans? Lower fairings would probably have to be removed.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: rschrum on June 18, 2020, 08:00:58 PM
I leave mine in the middle.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 18, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
has anybody ever welded the bracket from a convert or g5 for the LOOOONG type sidestand in place of one of the "toothpick" style sidestands on the SP or Le Mans? Lower fairings would probably have to be removed.

Nop but i put a Brown stand on my LMIII it's the shiz
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Roebling3 on June 18, 2020, 08:30:08 PM
I used to be 6' 2"; even then I could not do the Harley get off thing - to the high side - a la cops and show offs. What's widdat? Is there a reason?   R3~
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Tom on June 18, 2020, 08:52:54 PM
has anybody ever welded the bracket from a convert or g5 for the LOOOONG type sidestand in place of one of the "toothpick" style sidestands on the SP or Le Mans? Lower fairings would probably have to be removed.

Y'ep.  Works.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Stevex on June 19, 2020, 12:41:41 PM
has anybody ever welded the bracket from a convert or g5 for the LOOOONG type sidestand in place of one of the "toothpick" style sidestands on the SP or Le Mans? Lower fairings would probably have to be removed.

Fitted an old Triumph side stand onto a modified original side stand bracket.


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Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: jwinwi on June 19, 2020, 01:06:01 PM
Y'ep.  Works.

MG Cycle's website says it will not work with the LeMans' 'swept back pipes'...
https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=1971&zenid=1c9277fddfbc17cb8ff9f3abc82d53ca
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Bill Owens on June 19, 2020, 01:13:02 PM
has anybody ever welded the bracket from a convert or g5 for the LOOOONG type sidestand in place of one of the "toothpick" style sidestands on the SP or Le Mans? Lower fairings would probably have to be removed.
Years ago I installed the left frame rail off from a G5 along with the side  stand on my SP. Cut a small piece out of the fairing lower. Worth the sacrifice.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Two Checks on June 19, 2020, 01:30:05 PM
Many moons ago I made a bracket and welded it to the rail on my T and then mounted a G5 stand. Crude but it worked.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2020, 01:59:00 PM
MG Cycle's website says it will not work with the LeMans' 'swept back pipes'...
https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=1971&zenid=1c9277fddfbc17cb8ff9f3abc82d53ca

Like all modifications, it's not complete unless you do all of them.  YMMV.  A California kickstand will work with the modifications if you do all of them for fitment.  Same Tonti frame.  Different parts for clearance. 

Similar to adding a less restrictive exhaust system.  Adding just open mufflers without fuel intake adjustment is 1/2 way there.  "This item requires fabrication skills and is considered a custom installation."
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: kirkemon on June 20, 2020, 07:38:19 PM
If you've been riding a million miles and didn't - I don't think that it really makes any difference.
Unless I'm locking the forks, I turn to which ever way seems appropriate for the grade that I'm parking on.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: GeorgiaGuzzi on June 20, 2020, 08:31:06 PM
If you've been riding a million miles and didn't - I don't think that it really makes any difference.
Unless I'm locking the forks, I turn to which ever way seems appropriate for the grade that I'm parking on.

This. Depending on what grade I’m on or how the bike is parked I turn whichever way the bike seems happiest.
Title: Re: Learn something new.....side stands...
Post by: Cdn850T5NT on June 20, 2020, 11:22:48 PM
My Tonti framed T5 Series III has the toothpick stand... though mounted 'way rearward compared to either the SP II or the Series I or II T5's. It is spring loaded to retract (and dent the LHS LaFranconi). In any case the bars have to be turned to the right to use the LHS mounted fork lock...(brilliant) and the front Paioli forks have stiction. So, when I try the sidestand with forks to the right the bike stands well-nigh plumb... i.e . it WILL fall over. If I yard-up on the handlebars it will still be close to plumb... but not totally. In order to actually use the sidestand I need to turn the forks to the LHS... and out of habit I STILL yard-up on the bars. To truly be reasonable I would need a block of wood (and a corded tell-tale) to block between the OEM forkbrace and the lower triple clamp.... and I still could not lock the forks.

Another example of 95% engineered by Guzzi and 5% left for the patient and resourceful owner...