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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: elrealistico on July 18, 2020, 04:21:15 PM
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So I like having centerstands, and got a kit from one of the well known parts suppliers. Springs were bit of bother to get hooked, but after some effort and foul language and death threats, they hooked on.
Now I am trying to remove the existing lower frame crosspiece where the canister sits so it can be replaced by the centerstand. There is no nut on the RH side, it does look like it broke off , taking the end of the long bolt with it. Broken off end is maybe 1/8". Well, I'll get the old one out and order a new nut and bolt. Maybe Luigi over torqued with an impact.
Hmm, so I go ahead and try to get it out using an 8mm hex adaptor and the thing will barely budge. I'd removed the LH muffler, loosened the clamp on the exhaust crosspiece, and even removed the LH header pipe to get a straight on angle to it. No luck. I have maybe moved it a 1/4 turn based on the paintmarks (yellow vice white) still on there from when it was put in. Started to round it a bit so decided to stop for now
Anybody have this issue when putting in the stand? Is the frame hole on the RH side threaded? is the thing reverse threaded? (CW to loosen?) directions aren't the best. I did loosen up the cradle bolts just above the crosspiece on both sides, still no help --Thanks in advance--ER
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If the centerstand is on already it may be holding the rails from spreading.
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IF! Your V7 is the smae as my V9 Bobber the bolt that runs through the centerstand and canister bracket is threaded on the right frame rail. It is locktited at the factory. Came out hard, had to use a good hex socket and a breaker bar to get it out. The instructions called for using locktite on the threads when reinstalling the bolt. It's a standard lefty loosey thread.
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Heat!
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I have done this install on my 2018 Milano using the OEM centerstand, purchased through MG Cycle, with the machine resting on the sidestand in my garage. So it can be done with persistence and no special tools.
There is NO nut on the back side, that ended with the V7II model so don't worry about that as the bolt is threaded into the other side.
I did not need heat but there is a good possibility that a threadlocker is employed as it took a pretty good torque to remove that bolt and I do think those allen heads are too soft. Soo....heating the opposite side of that bolt where it threads into the rail with a heat gun MAY help.
Once that is out I found it helpful to loosen the lower frame rails slightly and I used a tire iron to pry a little when inserting the centerstand between them. Just be sure to re-torque everthing to spec.
I also found it easier to put those springs on while the centerstand was in the Down position on the workbench as a sub assembly.
Hope this helps,
John
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I ended up completely removing the LH exhaust and getting someone's breaker bar,and it came off finally. There appeared to be red loctite on there, so that was the culprit. Still did some rounding, so I ill replace it just so it's easier to get out next time, whenever that is.
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I have done this install on my 2018 Milano using the OEM centerstand, purchased through MG Cycle, with the machine resting on the sidestand in my garage. So it can be done with persistence and no special tools.
There is NO nut on the back side, that ended with the V7II model so don't worry about that as the bolt is threaded into the other side.
I did not need heat but there is a good possibility that a threadlocker is employed as it took a pretty good torque to remove that bolt and I do think those allen heads are too soft. Soo....heating the opposite side of that bolt where it threads into the rail with a heat gun MAY help.
Once that is out I found it helpful to loosen the lower frame rails slightly and I used a tire iron to pry a little when inserting the centerstand between them. Just be sure to re-torque everthing to spec.
I also found it easier to put those springs on while the centerstand was in the Down position on the workbench as a sub assembly.
Hope this helps,
John
I too have a '18 Milano and installed the OEM stand purchased from MG Cycle. I don't recall having any difficulty with any bolts. Lucky I guess. I did remove the LH exhaust canister for better access. And I didn't install the springs 'til last, with the stand fully installed on the bike. I used ratchet straps to stretch the springs into place; it took a few attempts to get the angle right but it was stress free.
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Springs were a little bitchy, but I have dealt with way worse. maybe 15-20 minutes on my bench and I figured it out. Interesting a poster says no nut on the RHS for the III series. Bolt end is clearly not a clean manufacture, looks broken off Would explain the loctite.
Ah well, it all ended well, looks and works fine. Next is frame sliders when they come in. Be easier with the center stand.