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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: steven c on July 31, 2020, 10:12:18 AM
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I think a lot of us van relate to this.
https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/keep-sell-or-toss-thinning-the-parts-stockpile-is-like-prepping-for-a-garage-sale/
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I would never be a hoarder!
Right?
TOMB
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From the comments section:
A hoarder never throws anything away. A collector makes regular trips to the dump. A hoarder has an unrealistic emotional attachment to junk. A collector understands what's valuable (at least to their car) and what is junk and has no problem getting rid of the junk. This is at least the hoarder definition that I'm holding on to :).
This brings back memories of childhood going to junkyards to find "goodies".
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I started collecting brand new parts when the Lira was basically worthless and I'm sorry that I didn't buy more stuff.
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As long as you have room and it doesn't interfere with anyone else. :grin:
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I've met a few true hoarders over the years, they were mostly badly broken people looking for some security in life. Their clogged homes truly became a threat to their safety and the safety of others.
Keeping a bunch or even a whole lot of old bikes, cars, parts, etc. even when they're rusty and dysfunctional is not a mental illness and certainly not a crime. If anything, those of us who bought a whole box of N95 masks when they were on sale and donated them to health care workers are heroes, not villains. We also provide the props to provide some badly needed history instruction to the young- I remember the head of an extensive county museum where we used to have sidecar rallies tell us how much of the collection came from old folks who filled their barns and homes with so much old stuff that they had to live on their porch... Thanks to their sacrifice that museum has a very thorough collection!
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Let's ask Mike and Frank.
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Difference from collection and hoarding. Can you get rid of stuff. Hoarders can get rid of trash.
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Difference from collection and hoarding. Can you get rid of stuff. Hoarders can get rid of trash.
I have been in some real bad hoarder's properties, one where the old fella died in the middle of the mess in his house. His cats ate good for a while... The really bad ones can't even get rid of the trash. It's truly a mental illness at that level.
That being said, last week I got around to getting rid of two 30+ year old GM pickup truck projects and one late 50's fibreglass speedboat project from my backyard that have been there for ten years. Mrs. larrys finally convinced me that I really am not going to do anything with them.
No, I'm not a hoarder...
Larry
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If they still drive. This is an easy way to see if someone is a hoarder is to look at the interior of their vehicle. If they're driving around a vehicle that's used as a portable storage shed, they're a hoarder.
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I can relate to what GHG mentions about emotional attachment, everyone is different in how they view possessions. As a result of my parents estate, I have one brother who wanted absolutely nothing, very content to throw everything in the dumpster and use or acquire whatever cheap disposable crap is presently available.
I would like to think I'm a romantic, not a hoarder,lol, but quality furniture, books or tools that my father used or intended for his children to use, I don't have the heart to just throw it in the dumpster.
I can definitely relate to the view that you can become a slave to your possessions and minimalism is a worthwhile goal, but invariably, the week after I decide to throw something out, is when I discover a need or use for it,lol.
I have seen real hoarders in person a few times; the worst was a young man in his late 20's. His parents died shortly after he turned 18, and he inherited the family home, from that time forward, he never threw out garbage, newspapers etc, every single thing was saved and stacked and he had little tunnels made so he could walk from room to room, he lived in a literal mouse maze.
I've seen lots of elderly hoarders somewhat lesser extremes, but for a young man like him, that was unusual, it was a sad mental health situation.
different strokes
Kelly
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Tom
Thanks for your input.
You made me realize I'm not a hoarder as my cars and truck are driven empty (except the last few months as i was moving) .
Now my basement is another matter.
Its full important stuff like extra Guzzi parts , oh wait, the moving stuff that needs to be put away
But in a few weeks "I'm ordering a new shed" workshop so i can get organized.
But "I'm not a hoarder" Just ask Chuck Peterson, Steve Cote Eric Eckman , well just ask any Guzzi rider in Connecticut ,
TOMB
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I'm a collector with a load of spares. :thumb: I'm just disorganized. :undecided:
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I was collecting parts for a few years when at work we started a LEAN/5S initiative. Soon enough it bled over into home life and most those treasures I collected ended up at the recycle facility. The few good items was sold off earlier this year when we all of a sudden had a lo of extra time on our hands.
I'm learnign it costs more to keep stuff in anticiation of uing it vs just buying ut when you need it.
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Every piece of loop frame went out the door w the sale of my V700
Wish i had it all back
No I don’t
Yes i do..
No you don’t
my...my...pprrreeee cccciioussss beautiful polished aluminum parts!!!
No we cannot
Just one or two?
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As long as you have room and it doesn't interfere with anyone else. :grin:
Exactly. I hired a guy to do some dozer work for me. We hit it off like brothers.
"Cmon over and see what I have!"
about 50 acres and somewhere around 150 dozers, loaders, dump trucks, backhoes, road graders, excavators, old cars, old trucks, farm tractors, tractor-trailers, dozens of wheels, many engines & transmissions, etc.
the man had a hobby!
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Every piece of loop frame went out the door w the sale of my V700
Wish i had it all back
No I don’t
Yes i do..
No you don’t
my...my...pprrreeee cccciioussss beautiful polished aluminum parts!!!
No we cannot
Just one or two?
In 2002 I sold my not insignificant cache of Triumph parts to a guy who is still in the Brit bike business. I kept the numbers matching motor to my Bonneville and a very small pile of real treasures. That space has since been filled up with boat stuff.
I am not a hoarder...
Larry
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The most infamous case of hoarding in NYC were the Collyer Brothers, it took the police a week to find the bodies of the two brothers in their Harlem brownstone and they eventually removed 120 tons of garbage from the place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyer_brothers
There were tunnels in the garbage along with booby traps to ward off intruders because it was alleged that they were also hoarding lots of cash and valuables.
(https://i.redd.it/w4xgwfsmn9t21.jpg)
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Growing up farming, it seems nothing is discarded until the point of absolute uselessness is realized. Cleaning out after the old folks die makes it more obvious that I don't want to end the same way. Most of my bike & car spares were already thinned years ago and are not being replaced. Sometimes I miss my long-gone special bits & bikes, but there just isn't enough time or money in life. During the past 3 months, more has changed (for the better) so it's time to thin the pile again. My goal now is to collect empty space.
A.K. Miller was the legendary recluse/hoarder/collector from just over the hill from our home in VT. Lots of articles about him online now. Between his cars and the $1M in gold bullion found in a woodpile, no one really knew. What they talk about is how he kept his local taxes paid so the neighbors in town wouldn't dig deeper into his business- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Kennedy_Miller (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Kennedy_Miller)
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Started selling off my parts stash last year. Guzzi & Laverda stuff. Think I'm down to one Loop rear wheel, a LM 1000 exhaust, and a couple Ceriani 35mm front ends. Rest is gone.