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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rough Edge racing on August 09, 2020, 10:35:10 AM
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Ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Other-Makes/293677895275?hash=item4460910e6b:g:zdYAAOSwP49fKu9O
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That's pretty damn sweet.
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Yes I do.
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those triples were bad mofo's back in the day.
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Not very good photos or description...What's the reserve, 15 grand?
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Nice.
Missing the rear seat cowling tho.
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$4,050...RESERVE NOT MET...22 bids...I suspect it will go $12,000 or more!! :thumb: :cool: :thumb: :wink:
As I mentioned in another post..I really like this 750 SF2 also... :thumb: :thumb: :cool:
(https://i.ibb.co/ss7tRdF/Screen-Shot-2020-08-10-at-2-51-40-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/ss7tRdF)
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Dream bike.
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No one on my block has one...or even ever heard of it. But I would love it...
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It looks to me like a fairly rough, high mileage RGS that may be missing some parts like the passenger seat fairing. No bags. Nothing that can’t be rectified with significant effort, except maybe the missing (?) bags which are unobtainable, but not a sterling example. Being is Canada in the current environment doesn’t help marketability either.
My RGS fun fact contribution is to say that Alfa Romeo wanted access to some patents held by Laverda so sent a couple of US-based engineers who were familiar with EPA/CARB compliance to Laverda to help out. In this era evaporative emission controls were being introduced and Laverda needed a solution to access the US market. The second in command Alfa guy on site came up with the idea of adapting car parts, which led to use of a Fiat filler neck and gas cap. That’s why the RGS has a car style filler cap door in the fairing. This told to me by the first in command Alfa USA guy, who got a bike from Laverda for his trouble but who was small in stature and couldn’t ride it... the RGS is a tall motorcycle.
I’d like an RGS but don’t have one yet.
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This told to me by the first in command Alfa USA guy, who got a bike from Laverda for his trouble but who was small in stature and couldn’t ride it... the RGS is a tall motorcycle.
I planned to buy an RGA Jota at Fred Heistand Motors in '86, until I sat on it and popped it off the centerstand down onto it's wheels. I have a 30" inseam and my toes barely touched the ground. It felt very top heavy as well. Poof went the dream. I knew that even if I managed to somehow get it a little lower, that I'd eventually drop it and then hate myself forever after.
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A friend of mine has an RGS that he bought new in South Africa back in the day and brought to New Zealand with him.
The bike has been usefully developed with Suzuki GSXR wheels and tubeless radials, big front discs and 4 pot brembo calipers, small rear disc and floating brembo caliper, cartridge emulators and fork brace. A lot of unsprung weight removed which helps the handling immensely.
He also converted it to flat slide CV mikuni carbs which were something of an engineering feat to install and tune but a beautiful job and runs magnificently it now easily returns high 50s mpg (imperial).
However advancing age and reducing flexibility has seen him seek refuge on a BMW 1200GS and he talks about selling the RGS but hasn't quite been able to do it.
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A friend of mine had one back in the early 80's. You struggled to get parts for them back then, hate to think what its like now. Pretty over rated niche bike. Massive mechanical noise from the engine, not rattling just every other sort of mechanical grumbling. Heavy and tall. keep walking would be my advice.
Ciao
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I considered one when new, and still had a triple. If you lifted the rubber surround on the instrument panel you would find a Citroen emblem.
Decent to ride, didn't think the 120 engine was as nice as the 180
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Just in case you guys don't look in the new members thread------
A nice orange one--------https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=7285.0
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Title change....You Do Not need this Laverda...
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Great bikes , but a real mens bike, anybod under 6 feet should pass.
They are heavy, brutal powerfull beasts....
A couple of friends run laverda 's
My mates 1200 laverda is the only bike with a stiffer clutch than my 900ss.
A guzzi clutch doesn't even com close .
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A buddy of mine had one in the late 80s before I knew him so I never got to ride it. Said it was a beast, and is nauseous when you ask him what he sold it for. I'd love one.
-Steve
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If we all rent it for 1/2 hr it will be payed for, but if you wreck it you'll ruin it for the rest of us (and you have to buy it).
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They still look a mean and aggressive machine. I love the look of them. :thumb:
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Look at this sexy beast! :shocked:
(https://i.ibb.co/tzbWHcX/Laverda-harvester.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tzbWHcX)
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Laverdas are pretty to look at, parts availability is very good from Wolfgang Haerter in Canada, and they are not overly complicated.
I have been trying to bond with my 1973 SF1 for a couple summers now, it has been plagued with carb problems but I am getting close, I think. It's just not the bike I thought it would be.
(https://i.postimg.cc/kMwfxgMs/IMG-E7903.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fktcsZ9S)
I find it to be very heavy, it doesn't exactly jump up and run when you give it a fist of throttle, on its center stand if I run it to 4000 rpm it will quickly walk backwards across the floor, I find it vibrates pretty good - mostly feel it through the seat and this bike has been fully rebuilt, the bottom end by Wolfgang Haerter.
My 1975 Ducati 860 GT is such a nicer bike to ride, much smoother, better handling, if I had to choose the Ducati beats the Laverda twin hands down, can't say I have any experience with the triples.
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I find it to be very heavy, it doesn't exactly jump up and run when you give it a fist of throttle, on its center stand if I run it to 4000 rpm it will quickly walk backwards across the floor, I find it vibrates pretty good - mostly feel it through the seat and this bike has been fully rebuilt, the bottom end by Wolfgang Haerter.
My 1975 Ducati 860 GT is such a nicer bike to ride, much smoother, better handling, if I had to choose the Ducati beats the Laverda twin hands down, can't say I have any experience with the triples.
now you need a period le mans / v7sport to complete the comparison.
at some time between friends we owned most of the big italian sport bikes, so swapping bikes during trips was fun.
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Laverda porn:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/2016-breganze.jpg)
A showroom of Laverdas in Breganze in 2016 when I was there with a mate who's a Laverdista.
Gonzo
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I believe Canuck has already done that. Only MV is really missing.
I never cared for the twins either. The SFC I rode was among the worst bikes ever. A LeMans or Ducati is so much better.
But I think the triples are the real deal, and the twins are more a '60s bike.
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It looks to me like a fairly rough, high mileage RGS that may be missing some parts like the passenger seat fairing. No bags. Nothing that can’t be rectified with significant effort, except maybe the missing (?) bags which are unobtainable, but not a sterling example. Being is Canada in the current environment doesn’t help marketability either.
My RGS fun fact contribution is to say that Alfa Romeo wanted access to some patents held by Laverda so sent a couple of US-based engineers who were familiar with EPA/CARB compliance to Laverda to help out. In this era evaporative emission controls were being introduced and Laverda needed a solution to access the US market. The second in command Alfa guy on site came up with the idea of adapting car parts, which led to use of a Fiat filler neck and gas cap. That’s why the RGS has a car style filler cap door in the fairing. This told to me by the first in command Alfa USA guy, who got a bike from Laverda for his trouble but who was small in stature and couldn’t ride it... the RGS is a tall motorcycle.
I’d like an RGS but don’t have one yet.
Mileage is really nothing for one of these. 30K Km is barely broken in. Decent amount of chatter on this bike on the Laverda Forum with the main issue being whether it's a real Corsa-spec.
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$4,050...RESERVE NOT MET...22 bids...I suspect it will go $12,000 or more!! :thumb: :cool: :thumb: :wink:
As I mentioned in another post..I really like this 750 SF2 also... :thumb: :thumb: :cool:
(https://i.ibb.co/ss7tRdF/Screen-Shot-2020-08-10-at-2-51-40-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/ss7tRdF)
"Bidding Ended On This Item" at $5135 .... ?
Lannis
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"Bidding Ended On This Item" at $5135 .... ?
Lannis
Bidding has ended on the RGS in the original post...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-Other-Makes/293677895275
...not the SF2 posted by JJ, which is now at $8750 with a bit over an hour to go.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-laverda-750-sf2/
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(https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/LAVERDA_COR_v6.jpg)
More pornier porn.
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that is remarkably cheap for the RGS, and a huge amount of money for the 750!
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That big triple did seem to go cheap, but you's were right the twin did a bit better,,, SOLD FOR $10,250 ON 8/13/20
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"Ended" means the RGS didn't sell - didn't meet reserve, so it didn't "go cheap".
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"Ended" means the RGS didn't sell - didn't meet reserve, so it didn't "go cheap".
Aahhh, I understand now. I'm not up on all the auction stuff, I don't play, so I don't follow them closely.
Interesting, wondering why the bidding died off, questions about the bike,,, the border,,, or both?
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now you need a period le mans / v7sport to complete the comparison.
at some time between friends we owned most of the big italian sport bikes, so swapping bikes during trips was fun.
I have had a couple V7 Sports and a 1977 LeMans 850, did not ride the LeMans much before selling it but it was quicker than the V7 Sport and much better brakes. The V7 Sport is quite comfortable with the swan necks raised up and it accumulates speed nicely but I can't call it 'fast'. Front dual 2LS brake looks great and set up properly is quite good.
If I had to pick just one it would be a V7 Sport, great looking, continues to appreciate in value, very durable and great parts availability. The 860 Ducati GT is not the sporting bevel, more of a touring bike with high bars and an upright riding position, the cheapest bevel twin to buy but parts are not easy to get and very expensive. The Laverda SF1 looks lovely but I would rate it last of the four.
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$4,050...RESERVE NOT MET...22 bids...I suspect it will go $12,000 or more!! :thumb: :cool: :thumb: :wink:
As I mentioned in another post..I really like this 750 SF2 also... :thumb: :thumb: :cool:
(https://i.ibb.co/ss7tRdF/Screen-Shot-2020-08-10-at-2-51-40-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/ss7tRdF)
I had a 1975 SF2 for 13 years
I roughnecked in Oklahoma and would ride it all over there down to Dallas to see a girlfriend
Loved that damn bike
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Its an RGS Corsa. They made less than 200 of them. High comp pistons different cam, better brakes etc. Like the difference between an T3 and a LeMans. A lot nicer to ride. Ive owned an 81 Jota and an SF2 and just sold a racing RGS with a Chrome Moly frame and an F1 engine. Nice bikes when put together properly.
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Laverda porn:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/2016-breganze.jpg)
A showroom of Laverdas in Breganze in 2016 when I was there with a mate who's a Laverdista.
Gonzo
Maybe the most interesting of those, or anyway unusual, might be the Lesmo - the larger version of which was a 350 cc two stroke triple.
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(https://silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/LAVERDA_COR_v6.jpg)
More pornier porn.
One of the most over rated motorcycles ever made. Heavy and with a fragile drive train and weird rear swingarm. Museum piece only.
This is the Laverda we really needed to be made. Aprilia RSV 1000 powered. Plenty of power,smooth as silk and falling brick reliable. Alas it never was.
(https://i.ibb.co/N6Rzz3P/LAVERDA-SFC-1000-1188-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N6Rzz3P)
Ciao
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You are correct, but gosh it looks good
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This is the Laverda we really needed to be made. Aprilia RSV 1000 powered. Plenty of power,smooth as silk and falling brick reliable. Alas it never was.
And by now, as with the Aprilia on which it was based, you'd able to buy one for $2000. With good reason.
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And by now, as with the Aprilia on which it was based, you'd able to buy one for $2000. With good reason.
I've owned 3 RSV Aprilias, 1 standard and 2 different "R" models. I've also owned and still do LOTS of Ducati Superbikes and many other of their less racier models. Plus MV's 3 off and the list goes on. I only mention this as a bit of a precursor to the following opinion. The RSV Aprilias were in my view especially engine wise one of the most underrated sports bikes of the last 20 years. The engine (which I've been inside of along with just about every Ducati engine up until the Panagale) was really nice and almost unbreakable. It had more than adequate power for a road bike and for most racers come to that and was smooth as silk and cheap to maintain. I wish I still had the last model RSV Factory model and I couldn't care less that the fickle and sometimes irrational motorcycle market didn't value them.
If you want to talk about devaluation look back on most of the Ducati "limited edition" 916/996 bikes of the 90's. They devalued more than the std models and you didn't get much for your extra money. Thats why I never bought one.
Ciao