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Title: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 11, 2020, 10:57:43 AM
I broke down and bought a DR 650. It's 90 pounds lighter than the Bonneville I'm selling later today.   :cry: But, the ergos on the Suzuki allow me to ride a little longer than the Bonnie...  I'm gonna lower it down a couple inches, then ride it awhile to see if any further mods are needed. It's got an aftermarket seat. Bone stock otherwise. Power is no problem with the DR, it has torque out the wazoo.  :wink:  There is a healthy aftermarket for most anything you would want or need. I will probably end up putting street tires on it.
(https://i.ibb.co/RpB1J93/2017-DR650.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RpB1J93)
   
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: LowRyter on August 11, 2020, 11:01:51 AM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 11, 2020, 11:10:30 AM
I did the same thing recently, and I really hate the bike... I'm stripping a few farkles off of it and selling it as soon as I get time to list it.

If you are interested, I have a factory low gel seat, a pair of lowering links for the shock, peg relocating brackets (moves them back) and a short kickstand to accommodate the lowering links. I could sell all in a package if you want.

 
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 11, 2020, 11:14:56 AM
I did the same thing recently, and I really hate the bike... I'm stripping a few farkles off of it and selling it as soon as I get time to list it.

If you are interested, I have a factory low gel seat, a pair of lowering links for the shock, peg relocating brackets (moves them back) and a short kickstand to accommodate the lowering links. I could sell all in a package if you want.

Thanks!  I already ordered the short sidestand. I won't know if I need the other stuff til I put some miles on it. I'll make a note of your stuff. Why do you hate the DR?
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 11, 2020, 11:30:11 AM
One of the nice things with the DR is you can lower it buy flipping around some fork internals and moving a bolt for the rear shock to the low position. AFT works great for fork oil and common 20W-50 for the crank.

The BTS 40 carbs are sort of rubbish as are all CV carbs they can be made a little better but nothgin is as good as an FCR39. It really livens the DR up.

If you still have the stock DR handlebars beware they are made of room temperature butter and bend just looking at them. Cyclegear Trackside CR bend bars are inexpensive and much less resistant to bending.


If your interested in an extra set of wheels I have a set I'm selling. Thy can be seen on the big Adventure Site or contact me via PM for more details.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 11, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
Thanks!  I already ordered the short sidestand. I won't know if I need the other stuff til I put some miles on it. I'll make a note of your stuff. Why do you hate the DR?

I hate the sound of it for sure
It's very slow
I got it with the lowering link etc installed, but when I rode it, it felt like a dog dragging it's arse across the carpet-- I returned it to stock height and now it's tall and gangly and hard to get off and on (I'm 6'1)
I planned to do a lot of fireroad riding and exploring on it, but I find the ride over the roads to get there pretty terrible- but I dont want to keep it and lose the knobbies, that would sort of defeat the point! And I'm certainly not going to trailer it somewhere to ride!
Mine has a lot of accessories like a big 6(?) gallon acerbis tank, bag racks, crash bars, case guards, bash plate, etc etc and it is deff too (top) heavy for actual offroading IMHO

Hard to put my finger on it, but every time I ride it I can't wait to get off. I know I'm in the minority, because this is one of the most popular bikes on the planet, but I have just hated every minute of owning it. Mine is a 2014 with under 7k miles, I've only put about 600mi on it because it feels so wrong.  I keep thinking I will remove the Rox risers and the peg relocating brackets and try it with a different riding position, but I can't even get inspired to turn a wrench on it. Best thing about it so far has been the heated grips, but I'm probably only enamored with those because I never had a set before.

I know people love these things, but to me it feels so bland and joyless.  I went out on it for a couple hours last weekend, and ended up stopping at a car wash to spray it off so I could take some pictures for my for sale listing.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: fotoguzzi on August 11, 2020, 11:53:28 AM
Sorry you feel that way Mayor, my experience is completely reversed, I really liked the bike, it handled highways way better than the KLR's I've had. Was plenty peppy for most occasions.
I had a Sargent seat, fantastic! I'm 5'10" and never had a problem getting on or off so puzzled why you think it's too tall.
To the OP, I predict you will love it!

(https://photos.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-kcdGwG2/0/90dd16ef/M/IMG_2653-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-kcdGwG2/A)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 11, 2020, 11:57:27 AM
Thanks for the parts offers Mayor and Perazzimx14. I won't know for awhile what I want and need.  The most off road my DR will ever see will be a dirt road. If I wanted to go off road, I would take my XT250, MUCH lighter and more capable than the DR.   :wink:   
(https://i.ibb.co/QpJZ9VP/Shorty-s-XT250.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpJZ9VP)
   
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 11, 2020, 12:05:51 PM
Sorry you feel that way Mayor, my experience is completely reversed, I really liked the bike, it handled highways way better than the KLR's I've had. Was plenty peppy for most occasions.
I had a Sargent seat, fantastic! I'm 5'10" and never had a problem getting on or off so puzzled why you think it's too tall.
To the OP, I predict you will love it!

(https://photos.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-kcdGwG2/0/90dd16ef/M/IMG_2653-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-kcdGwG2/A)

I'm the same. 5'-10" and thought the low position was too low. Went to regular height and all was well. Highway mannerism were also quite tolerable and while not a liter bike it was a lot of fun in the twisties. Enough power but not enough to get ahead of yourself very easily.

Pelican 1550, Happy Trails SU pannier racks, a 5,3 gallon fuel cell and my fat ass were no issue touring or running errands.

As for the sound it sounds like a single :shocked:
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 11, 2020, 12:11:01 PM
I think you'll have great luck with it, it seems everyone loves these bikes... Mine came fully modded with all the 'right parts' (like the fcr carb and Sargent seat, plus all the other stuff I mentioned), but I just cant seem to "get it"

I dont have much experience on a lot of different bikes, I went from a mini bike as a kid -- to a 50cc scooter in my 20's -- to my dad's road king for a couple years -- to discovering Moto Guzzi in my 30's and every other bike I try just seems weird in comparison. So my opinion (on many things) should be taken with an extra large grain of salt

Here's a pic from before I raised the forks and took off the lowering link for shits & giggles:
(https://i.imgur.com/oWDpKQ6.jpg)

And the pic I took on my way home sunday
(https://i.imgur.com/LbfBMy4.jpg)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 11, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
I think you'll have great luck with it, it seems everyone loves these bikes... Mine came fully modded with all the 'right parts' (like the fcr carb and Sargent seat, plus all the other stuff I mentioned), but I just cant seem to "get it"

I dont have much experience on a lot of different bikes, I went from a mini bike as a kid -- to a 50cc scooter in my 20's -- to my dad's road king for a couple years -- to discovering Moto Guzzi in my 30's and every other bike I try just seems weird in comparison. So my opinion (on many things) should be taken with an extra large grain of salt

Here's a pic from before I raised the forks and took off the lowering link for shits & giggles:
(https://i.imgur.com/oWDpKQ6.jpg)

And the pic I took on my way home sunday
(https://i.imgur.com/LbfBMy4.jpg)

Mayor of BBQ,

I'm sorry you don't like the bike, IMO it is well suited for where and how I ride.  I can't dispute any of your impressions.  Excitement with a capital E is not a valid description of the DR.

Shoot me a PM if you would with your phone number, I just might know a buyer for your DR, me!
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 11, 2020, 12:39:08 PM
I broke down and bought a DR 650. It's 90 pounds lighter than the Bonneville I'm selling later today.   :cry: But, the ergos on the Suzuki allow me to ride a little longer than the Bonnie...  I'm gonna lower it down a couple inches, then ride it awhile to see if any further mods are needed. It's got an aftermarket seat. Bone stock otherwise. Power is no problem with the DR, it has torque out the wazoo.  :wink:  There is a healthy aftermarket for most anything you would want or need. I will probably end up putting street tires on it.
(https://i.ibb.co/RpB1J93/2017-DR650.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RpB1J93)
 

Hi Shorty,

I think you will like the DR.  Light weight is one of the main charms of the bike.  Simplicity is also a big factor.

A Seat Concepts seat cover, and a jet kit or shimming the needle and turning out the pilot screw a turn or so, and you will have the basic done.  From then on, it is all up to personal tastes and wallet.

You can also modify the stock footpads or buy after market pegs to drop them down 1-1.5" for more legroom.  IIRC, the vertical measurement from peg to seat on my bike is 23".

I'm only 5'9" with a 30" inseam, but prior to the hip replacement, more leg room was always better.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 11, 2020, 12:41:44 PM
Mayor of BBQ,

I'm sorry you don't like the bike, IMO it is well suited for where and how I ride.  I can't dispute any of your impressions.  Excitement with a capital E is not a valid description of the DR.

Shoot me a PM if you would with your phone number, I just might know a buyer for your DR, me!

Hell yeah bud, hopefully driving to Louisville this weekend, I could meet you in Abingdon or Wytheville, let's make a deal! I'll PM you tonight
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 11, 2020, 01:24:38 PM
Shorty,

sorry to derail your thread! I know these bikes have a great many fans, I hope the steed serves you well!
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: PeteS on August 11, 2020, 02:25:11 PM
Shorty, for street tires consider some Anakee IIIs. I just put some on my KLR and all the instabilty is gone. I have had Shinkos and lately TKC80s thinking I would use the KLR for mostly off road but it killed the pavement riding. Got real squirely above 60 MPH. I use the bike mainly for commuting anyway. Its my understanding the DR is better in most every way compared with the KLR, lighter with more power. I suspect you will have a ball with it.

Pete
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: mobiker on August 11, 2020, 02:44:06 PM
I'll second the Anakee III's for street use. I've gone through 3 sets on my BMW which also has a skinny 21" front tire. For street use I like them better than anything I've tried.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 11, 2020, 02:47:43 PM
I had a Shinko 777 on the front of my and it had 10,000 miles on it and looks new. IT also stuck like glue rain or shine. The front of the DR is almost weightless so any front should last a loooong time. Rear's are different Shinko 712, Avon of some sort and not a Conti Go. the 712 wore out the fastest at about 2500 miles the other lasted a bit longer but not much. A slipper clutch would go a long way is saving these tires when riding spirited.


If you go with Anakee 3's be prepared they are know to produce a lot of road noise. AS in louder than TKC80 50/50 knobbie. I put them on one bike and liked the handling and longevity but did not like the noise. I've recently bought two other bikes and they came with A3's that are too nice to throw away so I'm stuck with them for now. 
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Chethro on August 11, 2020, 05:21:44 PM
A V7 and DR combo is hard to beat for me.


(https://i.ibb.co/nLXmR3Q/IMG-1402-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nLXmR3Q)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 11, 2020, 05:22:07 PM
Shorty,

sorry to derail your thread! I know these bikes have a great many fans, I hope the steed serves you well!

No worries.  :wink:  I like to hear people's opinions. I hope you make a good deal on your DR and the next bike you get to replace it.  If I end up not liking the DR, it will go the way they all do....   :grin:
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: LesP on August 11, 2020, 05:34:25 PM
You don't have to try and convince me.
Bought new in January 2008... 53 hp / 50 ft/lbs.

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/Cape.jpg)

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/IMG_2658Small.jpg)

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/IMG_1129%20-%20Copy.jpg)

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/Image-78.png)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: JJ on August 11, 2020, 05:50:24 PM
That DR is a fabulous bike! :thumb: :wink: :smiley:   I mentioned this bike in another post...the 2020 Suzuki V-Strom 650 XT - - I am seriously considering one of these in the near future...


(https://i.ibb.co/zmkM3Mj/Screen-Shot-2020-08-11-at-3-48-12-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/zmkM3Mj)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: LowRyter on August 11, 2020, 08:59:08 PM
That DR is a fabulous bike! :thumb: :wink: :smiley:   I mentioned this bike in another post...the 2020 Suzuki V-Strom 650 XT - - I am seriously considering one of these in the near future...


(https://i.ibb.co/zmkM3Mj/Screen-Shot-2020-08-11-at-3-48-12-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/zmkM3Mj)


Excellent motorcycle.  A jack of all trades.  Not a lot of excitement but a great bike.  Any version of 650 Suzuki Vtiwn is just a great motorcycle.   I'd take one over a Sportster any day. 
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 11, 2020, 09:06:26 PM
A DR would be perfect for some of the Ozark backroads in my area, I like getting back in the boondocks. But I don't have time to ride the bikes I have <shrug> I guess I'll just haul the KTM 250EXC to the woods, geeze, it's 25 miles to Chadwick Motorcycle area in Mark Twain National Forest............. ..........SIGH  :wink   https://www.mobilemaplets.com/showplace/4142
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: 80CX100 on August 11, 2020, 09:27:08 PM
I love big singles, imho, the DR is one of the best; It's as simple and reliable as a stone hammer, but like any other bike, there are some issues to keep in mind or address.

Early model DRs needed a seal retainer for the output shaft behind the front sprocket, the factory added one to the design many years ago, so it probably won't be an issue, but verify it's there, next time you work in that area of the bike.

The NSU (neutral sending unit) is made of plastic and with heat and time, shrinks and the 2 screws/bolts can loosen, they should be verified tight and secured, I used med strength loc tite (a cut down 5? mm allen key made this job doable), verify the primary nut if you go in the engine to do the NSU bolts.

The 5 speed tranny is solid, but with sticky tires on pavement and a heavy throttle hand, 3rd gear has been known to go, I love twisting the throttle on my DR, but I consciously am a little gentler for 3rd gear on pavement.

I passed up some DRs that had been lowered, I do find it a bit high (I'm 6'), but my bike had been well set up by a PO and came with lots of extras. Risers and a set of Renthal bars w barkbusters, improve the comfort and surprisingly weather protection, a better seat would be nice, but I've used beads and it wasn't bad. My DR is anything but boring, an open Kerker exhaust gives it a glorious bark and with the FCR 39 carb and the front sprocket dropped 1 tooth, there is some serious bite,lol. It does run out of breath around 65-70 mph and I keep reaching for the 6th gear that isn't there,lol.

I put a set of Shinko 705s on it (70-30, 80-20 ? tires), I found them great on pavement, lovely on curvy back roads, and good on gravel roads and non technical trails, but real loose gravel corners should be done with common sense.

Mr DR was my town bike, a great urban assault weapon, I took it off the road a couple of years ago, when I stopped going into the city, but I think it's a great bike.

I think you'll love the bike, and if you don't, the market is always strong for them.

Wishing you many safe miles on it.

Kelly
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: LesP on August 11, 2020, 11:39:21 PM
https://youtu.be/spAq8JuXVUY
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 12, 2020, 06:04:46 AM
I love big singles, imho, the DR is one of the best; It's as simple and reliable as a stone hammer, but like any other bike, there are some issues to keep in mind or address.

Early model DRs needed a seal retainer for the output shaft behind the front sprocket, the factory added one to the design many years ago, so it probably won't be an issue, but verify it's there, next time you work in that area of the bike.

The NSU (neutral sending unit) is made of plastic and with heat and time, shrinks and the 2 screws/bolts can loosen, they should be verified tight and secured, I used med strength loc tite (a cut down 5? mm allen key made this job doable), verify the primary nut if you go in the engine to do the NSU bolts.

The 5 speed tranny is solid, but with sticky tires on pavement and a heavy throttle hand, 3rd gear has been known to go, I love twisting the throttle on my DR, but I consciously am a little gentler for 3rd gear on pavement.

I passed up some DRs that had been lowered, I do find it a bit high (I'm 6'), but my bike had been well set up by a PO and came with lots of extras. Risers and a set of Renthal bars w barkbusters, improve the comfort and surprisingly weather protection, a better seat would be nice, but I've used beads and it wasn't bad. My DR is anything but boring, an open Kerker exhaust gives it a glorious bark and with the FCR 39 carb and the front sprocket dropped 1 tooth, there is some serious bite,lol. It does run out of breath around 65-70 mph and I keep reaching for the 6th gear that isn't there,lol.

I put a set of Shinko 705s on it (70-30, 80-20 ? tires), I found them great on pavement, lovely on curvy back roads, and good on gravel roads and non technical trails, but real loose gravel corners should be done with common sense.

Mr DR was my town bike, a great urban assault weapon, I took it off the road a couple of years ago, when I stopped going into the city, but I think it's a great bike.

I think you'll love the bike, and if you don't, the market is always strong for them.

Wishing you many safe miles on it.

Kelly

3rd gear issues were unofficially resolved in 2006 and around 2013 the NSU screw were locktite'd from the factory.

If you do the NSU fix it is far easier to just remove the clutch basket. The extra 10 minutes it takes saves about 30 minuutes try to work around it. Then you have free and clear access to really clean out the 2 screw holes with carb cleaner (several  times)  to make sure there is no oil residue so that the blue locktite will properly adhear. Some folks drill the bolt heads and safety wire them but if everything is clean blue locktite is all you need.


Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 12, 2020, 08:06:57 AM
3rd gear issues were unofficially resolved in 2006 and around 2013 the NSU screw were locktite'd from the factory.

If you do the NSU fix it is far easier to just remove the clutch basket. The extra 10 minutes it takes saves about 30 minuutes try to work around it. Then you have free and clear access to really clean out the 2 screw holes with carb cleaner (several  times)  to make sure there is no oil residue so that the blue locktite will properly adhear. Some folks drill the bolt heads and safety wire them but if everything is clean blue locktite is all you need.

I went the simpler route and just removed the NSU.  Easiest bike in the world to find neutral.

Much lighter weight was additional secondary benefit....... it handles so much better now......
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 12, 2020, 08:10:32 AM
You don't have to try and convince me.
Bought new in January 2008... 53 hp / 50 ft/lbs.

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/Cape.jpg)

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/IMG_2658Small.jpg)

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/IMG_1129%20-%20Copy.jpg)

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/Image-78.png)

LesP,

I would like to hear more of the details of your DR650 (s?).  White one has DRZ400SM forks I assume?  53hp/50ft-lbs is using the ProCycle 790cc kit?

thanks in advance!

Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: ozarquebus on August 12, 2020, 08:55:28 AM
nice bike, larry. wish i had a dr
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: BillinPA on August 12, 2020, 11:25:24 AM
Good for you Shorty, I had a DR350 25 yrs ago,  dirt model, great bike. The DR 650 is on my should get one list.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 12, 2020, 12:34:19 PM
Good for you Shorty, I had a DR350 25 yrs ago,  dirt model, great bike. The DR 650 is on my should get one list.

Hi Bill! Long time no see...  I also owned a DR350. It was a bear to start sometimes. I have had to move on to an electric leg in my dotage, lol.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Roebling3 on August 12, 2020, 01:20:48 PM
My son had a growth spurt.
At  8 yrs. I gave him an 80cc Kawasaki. 6 years later - tall- muscular; he was ogling a DR370. You know:With the window to check piston position.  Forgetting he read all my magazines. The bike had not sold or run in 3 years. Thinking I'm fairly safe I said if you can start it I'll buy it for you. Great bike.  R3~
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: joe-dean on August 12, 2020, 02:56:16 PM
don't bother with links.   the shock at the bottom has two bolt positions change that and suzuki sells a shorter side stand.

that is the factory lowering kit.  did that to mine drops it about 2 inches. then slide up the fork tubes
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 12, 2020, 03:19:39 PM
The forks are woefully under sprung you'll notice this evetime you touch the front brakes and the front end nose dives 7 inches. progressive springs,  Ricor Intimidators and a fork brace go a long way in making the front end tolerable.


Keep an eye out on the big Adv site. These items pop up from time to time. I got used Ricors and HD springs for something like $100. I also put gold valves and heavier springs in what is now the tug for the pups sidecar. The GVs are better off pavement whereas the Ricors are better on pavement. Either are better than stock.


Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: LesP on August 12, 2020, 07:45:53 PM
LesP,

I would like to hear more of the details of your DR650 (s?).  White one has DRZ400SM forks I assume?  53hp/50ft-lbs is using the ProCycle 790cc kit?

thanks in advance!

Its the same bike with a brand new white take off fuel tank for $120 (2008 Metallic Blue originally and still like new having had the 30+ litre tank most of its life, I went through three of them after the first two leaked)

Its still sitting neglected, I need to make a new mid pipe for the Two Brothers C5 muffler I brought back on my last trip to New Zealand.

Its a 780.
Procycle big valve and seat kit (Kibblewhite) , I got Phil Tainton Racing to do the machining and installation of it.
WEB #190 camshaft.
FMP pipe.
TM40 carburettor.
Every wear item in the engine is new besides the rod kit.

Those forks replace the previous set which were also RMZ450 (These ones are brand new from a 2011 bike that got Ohlins forks from new, I have a set of Ohlin's cartridges to go into them)

Head light brackets are DRZ400SM but I did those mods back in 2010.

Rear shock is an Ohlin's I got from that bum in NZ to do long ago.
New dash is a Vapor digital with a HDB/USA billet surround and associated switches.

Wheels are Procycle 17's with new Road 4's and big brake that I got back in 2009, I have a radial master cylinder in the mail and 4 piston 40 mm mount Brembo to install... The Brembo rear caliper I have will not fit unless I get an offset rotor for spoke clearance.
About the only thing stock is the frame and swing arm.

I would not sell it for a million dollars.
#
Suzuki never did much about the 3rd gear failures (They seem to be made from some form of powdered metal) where the gear simply fractures into multiple pieces even at low speed and constant throttle.
I guess they figured the fail ratio to bikes made was OK.

They did rotate the spline to dog position but that did not stop it.
As posted before (I think) back in 2012 (iirc) I sent my original gear box clusters and shafts to Nova Racing Transmissions in the UK and they designed the billet gear from that (I got the first set)

Even those have not fixed the problem 100% and last I read one of the Aussie long time riders worked with Nova to get a complete new cluster/shaft set made with optional ratio's, but that would not be for the average owner cost wise. 

I would guess DR650SE's are one of the main adventure bikes in this country due to their reputation and general robustness (The 3rd gear thing is sporadic enough to not bother most people but of course a decent failure all but destroys the engine)

2021 might be the last year for the DR650 but shows you can turn out the same unchanged bike for decades and they will sell (1996 to present, colour/color and decal changes only)

(https://photos.imageevent.com/time_warp1959/misc/tr5t/DR1.JPG)
 
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: PeteS on August 12, 2020, 07:54:16 PM
That head is a thing of beauty. It deserves its own display case.

Pete
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: LowRyter on August 12, 2020, 08:59:53 PM
Good lord Shorty, what a can of worms you kicked over.

I'm not sure that anyone will mention getting a new bike here again.  I've ridden one.  It's a cool bike and will get you down the road.  I hope you enjoy it. 

https://youtu.be/vDGorIWYz-A

The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys. 


(It just seems to fit.)

(https://img.discogs.com/6k9FuB0aX-MyZLsf_ZG49kyPV_A=/567x367/smart/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/A-64748-1337674070-4943.jpeg.jpg)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 12, 2020, 10:42:39 PM
I sold the Bonneville to a nice British gent.  He rode it home in the rain.   :azn:  There is a song in there somewhere.  That frees up floor space to give the DR the once over.   

Thanks for the nice evening tune, John. (https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/117198809_3233164820073340_158676368834934780_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=BsfhicBZ9FUAX8WdyzK&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=0e7b134b0013ed293edbbd66120155e9&oe=5F5C1EF6)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: oldbike54 on August 12, 2020, 10:53:51 PM
 Pretty neat trick hiding an NSU inside that Suzuki , those Japanese are certainly innovative .

 Dusty
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 12, 2020, 11:43:30 PM
Pretty neat trick hiding an NSU inside that Suzuki , those Japanese are certainly innovative .

 Dusty

THAT would be a neat replica kit:  (https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorcycleclassics.com%2F-%2Fmedia%2FImages%2FMCC%2FEditorial%2FBlogs%2FWheels-on-Reels%2FThe-Rise-and-Fall-of-NSU-Motorcycles%2Fnew-SuperMaxad1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: LowRyter on August 13, 2020, 08:58:31 AM
Shorty  :thumb:
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 14, 2020, 06:20:15 AM
Thanks for the info LesP.

My bike:

790cc kit.  first attempt was a 790 piston with a cylinder bored for the 780 piston.  Pro-Cycle cleared that up quick.  They are great people!
TM-40 Mikuni pumper carb.
Heavier springs and gold valves.
Cycle Concepts seat cover
Clarke 4.0 gal tank and aftermarket body work.
Trailtech instrument.
2004 GSXR 1000 muffler (IIRC 2 liters more volume than the coveted 2000-2002 GSXR muffler)
oversize head pipe
Jesse Kientz mid pipe
Dyno'd at 44hp/40ft-lbs with rich jetting.  After mounting a AF sensor, I went down 2 sizes on the main jet and opened up the airbag a bit.
Butt Buddy passenger seat + lower passenger pegs.
Givi tail trunk, I forget the rack manufacturer.
Modified SV650 supermoto style wheels.

Lots of minor other stuff.


(https://i.ibb.co/ZmYWWKr/DR650-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZmYWWKr)

(https://i.ibb.co/YLNRGTs/DR650-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YLNRGTs)

(https://i.ibb.co/Jm2RV4n/DR650-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jm2RV4n)
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 14, 2020, 06:45:32 AM
I broke down and bought a DR 650. It's 90 pounds lighter than the Bonneville I'm selling later today.   :cry: But, the ergos on the Suzuki allow me to ride a little longer than the Bonnie...  I'm gonna lower it down a couple inches, then ride it awhile to see if any further mods are needed. It's got an aftermarket seat. Bone stock otherwise. Power is no problem with the DR, it has torque out the wazoo.  :wink:  There is a healthy aftermarket for most anything you would want or need. I will probably end up putting street tires on it.
(https://i.ibb.co/RpB1J93/2017-DR650.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RpB1J93)
 

Shorty,

Don't click on this link:
https://procycle.us/index.php/model/suzuki/dr650

You will be assimilated!
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 14, 2020, 08:43:23 AM
Well, I posted my DR on advrider for sale at $4200 and had a dozen people hit me up in under 2 hrs, sold it sight unseen at full asking price by the end of the day! 
SO i learned:
1. People really love these things and my experience is not typical
2. I should have asked for $4,500!
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 14, 2020, 10:15:40 AM
Well, I posted my DR on advrider for sale at $4200 and had a dozen people hit me up in under 2 hrs, sold it sight unseen at full asking price by the end of the day! 
SO i learned:
1. People really love these things and my experience is not typical
2. I should have asked for $4,500!

I told you so!  I didn't want to insult you by lowballing you.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 14, 2020, 10:21:48 AM
I told you so!  I didn't want to insult you by lowballing you.

a guy emailed me at 7:45 am, said he had seen the add...  he said he's give me $5k for it and he could be here in 3hrs to pick it up if I screwed over the guy who gave me a deposit... errr.... no, buddy I'm not going to do that lol
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 14, 2020, 02:23:36 PM
Thanks, Mayor! Sounds like I did OK buying my 2017 .
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: guzzler on August 14, 2020, 05:03:11 PM
https://youtu.be/spAq8JuXVUY
Great video !!
Yep if were after an adventure bike it would be one of these !
Cheers Guzzler
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 14, 2020, 06:00:50 PM
a guy emailed me at 7:45 am, said he had seen the add...  he said he's give me $5k for it and he could be here in 3hrs to pick it up if I screwed over the guy who gave me a deposit... errr.... no, buddy I'm not going to do that lol

Yeah.  I've the same.  Cost me about $1100 on one deal, but hey, keeping your word is keeping your word.
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 14, 2020, 06:20:49 PM
Shorty,

Don't click on this link:
https://procycle.us/index.php/model/suzuki/dr650

You will be assimilated!



That's a lotta goodies, thanks!
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: Shorty on August 20, 2020, 12:23:42 PM
I lowered the suspension using the factory method. I have wider footpegs coming, ordering tires,  and I'm gonna raise the handlebars one inch or so. I see that someone has removed the top of the airbox, so the carb has probably been modded already. The bike is a hoot. Pulls nice. I do notice some low amplitude vibration. I think it is way too heavy to do anything off road, but it is fine on dirt and gravel roads. It cruises nicely about 65mph where the XT250 is starting to gasp a little.  :grin: 
Title: Re: The DR is in
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 20, 2020, 12:50:52 PM
I lowered the suspension using the factory method. I have wider footpegs coming, ordering tires,  and I'm gonna raise the handlebars one inch or so. I see that someone has removed the top of the airbox, so the carb has probably been modded already. The bike is a hoot. Pulls nice. I do notice some low amplitude vibration. I think it is way to heavy too do anything off road, but it is fine on dirt and gravel roads. It cruises nicely about 65mph where the XT250 is starting to gasp a little.  :grin:

As long as it does not feel like it is running out of gas at steady speed, the jetting has probably been modified.  Stock plugs CR10's IIRC are super cold.  I run CR8's.

If you plan to only use it for a street/back road bike, don't hesitate to gear it up.  I am running a countershaft sprocket that is 2 teeth bigger than standard.  It will pull just fine.