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Title: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 15, 2020, 03:50:57 PM

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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: StuCorpe on August 15, 2020, 04:13:33 PM
Do you mean "Nessie" the Loch Ness Monster?


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The famous picture from 1934 that has been proven to be a hoax.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Ncdan on August 15, 2020, 04:32:51 PM
I’d say a 1000lb great white is a Sea Monster, as well as a 500lb 150 foot long squid.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 15, 2020, 04:43:24 PM
Yes...and that's "MISTER" Calamari to you!! :laugh: :grin: :wink:


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Huzo on August 15, 2020, 04:55:48 PM
Do you mean "Nessie" the Loch Ness Monster?


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The famous picture from 1934 that has been proven to be a hoax.
I was on the shore of Loch Ness in 2015 and looked across the Lake and did not see Monster.
However, there is a restaurant called the “Nessie Shop” that sells “Nessie Burgers”..

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Maybe the thing to do is to lie in wait until our elusive friend goes in for lunch then click click with the Nikon... :clock:
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: cliffrod on August 15, 2020, 05:10:32 PM
I've got a card to play in this hand, too-

True story.  Before emigrating to the USA from Aberdeen, Scotland in 1891, My great grandfather William Beaty Melvin married Jane Urquhart.  Two of my relatives later returned to Scotland trying to prove lineage and legal claim to at least a portion of the Urquhart estate, including the Urquhart castle that lies in ruins on the shore of Loch Ness.  They were not successful in their quest.  So I'm still just a commoner.

Nessie or Champ in Lake Champlain in my native VT are both fun to think about, but I'm not convinced.  I had enough trouble trying to convince the dumbass painter who was carpooling with me that the "seal" he saw on the ice in VT one winter was only an otter....
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 15, 2020, 05:32:22 PM
It's high time to unleash...."The KRAKEN!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :cool:


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: oldbike54 on August 15, 2020, 06:05:43 PM
 The Japanese have an entire movie industry built on sea monster films .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Rough Edge racing on August 15, 2020, 06:15:02 PM
American sea monster

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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Bulldog9 on August 15, 2020, 07:51:43 PM
When I was a kid, I lived far out east on Long Island in a town right on the Peconic bay. My dad and I would fish all along the north and south coast of the bay. One of our favorite spots was near Sag Harbor near a Hamlet called North Sea with a large inland brackish lake. Was great for mucking clams, catching scallops, flounder and baby blues. Was one of my dad's favorite places to fish when he was a kid and his family had a summer beach cottage out there. This was before the Hamptons and East end of the Island was ruined by the 'rich folks'

I was maybe 9, and of course at that time obsessed with Loch Ness Monster, UFO's, Bigfoot, etc. This was the early 70's and seemed a bit of an obsession on that stuff generally. One night we were fishing and out of no where there was a strange guttural bellow and giant splash of water that sounded like someone dropped a boat in the water about 20' away from us. I had just finished reading an article on how the Loch Ness Monster could have survived and that Loch Ness was very deep and they had discovered huge under ground waterways connecting the Loch to the North and Baltic Seas in Norway with weird things washing up from one side or the other. Horses, etc.... Of course my 8-9 year old mind immediately connected our North Sea with that and was convinced it was a plesiosaurus... lol  Likely was a seal who was also going for clams and scallops.

Finally visited Scotland last year in a whirlwind tour and went to Loch Ness. Beautiful place.

With all these things, and our knowledge of life and our planet so thin, we realy dont know, they find new and 'thought extinct' things all the time. Coelacanths were thought to be extinct until a live one was caught off the coast of South Africa. Until then, they were presumed to have gone extinct in the late Cretaceous period, over 65 million years ago aong with Nessie.  So who knows. Unikey, but not impossible.

Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: oldbike54 on August 15, 2020, 08:32:15 PM


With all these things, and our knowledge of life and our planet so thin, we realy dont know, they find new and 'thought extinct' things all the time. Coelacanths were thought to be extinct until a live one was caught off the coast of South Africa. Until then, they were presumed to have gone extinct in the late Cretaceous period, over 65 million years ago aong with Nessie.  So who knows. Unikey, but not impossible.


 Consider this , we had fossil records of a creature thought extinct for 65 million years , so we knew it existed . Yet we have no fossil records of Nessie or bigfoot . See the problem here ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Shorty on August 15, 2020, 08:40:27 PM
It's high time to unleash...."The KRAKEN!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :cool:




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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: wavedog on August 15, 2020, 08:41:02 PM
Proof? You want proof- you can’t handle the proof!

I served on two submarines when I was in the navy. Good, tight crews. We were the sea monster.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Bulldog9 on August 15, 2020, 08:51:14 PM

 Consider this , we had fossil records of a creature thought extinct for 65 million years , so we knew it existed . Yet we have no fossil records of Nessie or bigfoot . See the problem here ?

 Dusty

You know Dusty... Seems like you may have something to hide here.. :evil: :azn:.I'm starting to think that maybe you belong to a secret Bigfoot Nessie Cult and are trying to cover your tracks..

You have heard of a  Plesiosaur haven't you?

What is it you people out in Oklahoma do anyway? :-)
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 15, 2020, 09:37:14 PM
Fossils are very rare because the perfect conditions need to be in place for bone to fossilize. The fossil record is no where near complete.

There is at least one candidate for a bigff0ot type creature in the fossil record.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/01/160106-science-evolution-apes-giant/ (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/01/160106-science-evolution-apes-giant/)
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 15, 2020, 09:45:43 PM
Not a nessie candidate but interesting stuff …

https://www.livescience.com/25656-pygmy-whales-living-fossils.html (https://www.livescience.com/25656-pygmy-whales-living-fossils.html)
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 15, 2020, 09:46:14 PM
One of my all time favorites!!! :thumb: :cool: :wink:


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 15, 2020, 10:02:47 PM
The Gillman ! What's not to like. JJ, did you see " The Shape Of Water"  ?
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JukeboxGothic on August 15, 2020, 11:21:08 PM
A few years ago I saw a doco about a group of marine biologists taging and tracking Great whites off the South Australian coast. They caught a fourteen foot female that was particularly aggressive and proceeded to track it as it moved West close to the coast. Then it began to exhibit some strange behaviours. It moved towards the edge of the continental shelf and dived to depths Whites done normally go to then the temperature gauge started to rise.  The shark had been eaten by something large and the tracker had been swallowed.  They went through all the possibilities and none really fit the data. So something very large was eating very aggressive Great white sharks in the southern ocean.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Tom H on August 16, 2020, 01:24:37 AM
When someone says "True Story", it's time to grab the hip waders at least because the bull is going to flow.

Sorry, couldn't help myself  :boozing:,
Tom
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Lannis on August 16, 2020, 06:23:26 AM
When someone says "True Story", it's time to grab the hip waders at least because the bull is going to flow.

Sorry, couldn't help myself  :boozing:,
Tom

When I was a kid listening to my Dad's Navy buddies sitting around talking, and one of them said "All right now, this is no sh!t .... ", I knew I was getting ready to hear the biggest lie that was ever told .... !

Lannis
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 16, 2020, 07:58:43 AM
Then, of course, there is this classic...."The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms!!" :thumb: :cool:


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Ncdan on August 16, 2020, 08:27:36 AM
Proof? You want proof- you can’t handle the proof!

I served on two submarines when I was in the navy. Good, tight crews. We were the sea monster.
Thank you for that special service, anyone who can get into one of those things and stay under the oceans for weeks is definitely a hero!
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: wavedog on August 16, 2020, 09:44:12 AM
Jukebox gothic- Orcas hunt and kill great whites and eat them.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 16, 2020, 12:06:50 PM
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Then, of course, there is this classic...."The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms!!" 

There is something magical about those Ray Harryhausen stop motion animation films. I never get bored watching that vs CGI.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 16, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
There is something magical about those Ray Harryhausen stop motion animation films. I never get bored watching that vs CGI.

Like this classic, for example!!!  :thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdLW_rdrgSg
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JukeboxGothic on August 16, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
Jukebox gothic- Orcas hunt and kill great whites and eat them.
     They discounted Orcas and any other Southern ocean predators Including giant Squid. 
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 16, 2020, 04:30:20 PM
Orca pods have distinct cultures. not all Orcas hunt sharks.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/understanding-orca-culture-12494696/ (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/understanding-orca-culture-12494696/)
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 17, 2020, 12:30:00 PM
Orca pods have distinct cultures. not all Orcas hunt sharks.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/understanding-orca-culture-12494696/ (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/understanding-orca-culture-12494696/)

I have sort of a two-wheel ORCA!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: 

Although, as we all know "Moby Dick" was a white Sperm Whale... :rolleyes: :shocked:


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: MGrego on August 17, 2020, 12:53:36 PM

 Consider this , we had fossil records of a creature thought extinct for 65 million years , so we knew it existed . Yet we have no fossil records of Nessie or bigfoot . See the problem here ?

 Dusty

Gigantopithicus
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 17, 2020, 12:58:47 PM
Gigantopithicus

I mentioned that in the Bigfoot thread!!   :laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :cool:


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: oldbike54 on August 17, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
Gigantopithicus

 Gesundheit .

 Here is the thing , those guys all lived in China with some cousins in parts of SE Asia . They were fruit eaters who lived in very temperate climates , seems doubtful they could survive in Montana , or at 15,000 feet in Tibet .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 17, 2020, 08:57:43 PM
Good reading
https://www.britannica.com/animal/Gigantopithecus (https://www.britannica.com/animal/Gigantopithecus) Giganto could have been around as late as 100,000 years ago, and had at least one cousin. 

I feel a thread merge coming...
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: LowRyter on August 17, 2020, 10:57:40 PM
You know Dusty... Seems like you may have something to hide here.. :evil: :azn:.I'm starting to think that maybe you belong to a secret Bigfoot Nessie Cult and are trying to cover your tracks..

You have heard of a  Plesiosaur haven't you?

What is it you people out in Oklahoma do anyway? :-)

or a Gigantopithecus
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 18, 2020, 10:55:05 AM
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-true-life-horror-that-inspired-moby-dick?utm_source=pocket-newtab


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: SIR REAL ED on August 18, 2020, 11:28:43 AM
I have sort of a two-wheel ORCA!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: 

Although, as we all know "Moby Dick" was a white Sperm Whale... :rolleyes: :shocked:


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I'd like to report a sighting of the above Great White Sperm Whale outside Graziano's restaurant in Forest, VA 45 minutes ago.

Are we supposed to fill out an official Wild Guzzi Reporting Form, or everything just a taken as word of mouth?  You know, kinda like what is the best engine oil.

I really thought I would see Bigfoot before I saw a Great White Sperm Whale on dry land a couple hundred miles from the ocean.

Life really is full of surprises!
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: BrotherJim on August 18, 2020, 12:14:37 PM
As a child I peered out over that dark Scottish lake for hours and saw nothing. 
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Lannis on August 18, 2020, 12:20:47 PM
As a child I peered out over that dark Scottish lake for hours and saw nothing.

That's because it was a shadow at the door of a cottage on the shore ...

Lannis
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 18, 2020, 04:30:19 PM
Megamouth shark - first discovered in 1976 - (...just sayin') :wink: :shocked: :rolleyes:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/us/megamouth-shark-smithsonian-trnd-scn/?hpt=ob_blogfooterold
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 19, 2020, 12:08:20 AM
here's another new sea monster
https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/sharks-rays/goblin-shark (https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/sharks-rays/goblin-shark)
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: JJ on August 19, 2020, 10:55:05 AM
here's another new sea monster
https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/sharks-rays/goblin-shark (https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/sharks-rays/goblin-shark)

How would you like to have THAT set of TEETH clamping down on your calf!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked:


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Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: LowRyter on August 19, 2020, 02:16:40 PM
I was snorkeling and a moray eel with teeth like that snapped at me.  When I got back in the boat everyone was laughing at me.  They said some 12 years old were poking at when I came along. 

Scared me to death, thought I was going to be bitten and maybe die.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Rough Edge racing on August 19, 2020, 03:41:39 PM
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-true-life-horror-that-inspired-moby-dick?utm_source=pocket-newtab


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I recently read the book on the Essex story.....much of the book was the story of the survivors in small boats for for 90 days at sea.....A good read...
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Turin on August 19, 2020, 10:11:35 PM
I wouldn't f**k around with a moray eel either.
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: LowRyter on August 19, 2020, 10:16:06 PM
I wouldn't f**k around with a moray eel either.

don't (perhaps my best advice)
Title: Re: Bigfoot thread...So no love for Sea Monsters?
Post by: Lannis on August 20, 2020, 08:00:37 AM
I wouldn't f**k around with a moray eel either.

In my case, the contingency is EXTREMELY remote ....   :tongue: