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Title: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: nsmith on August 21, 2020, 12:03:33 PM
So I'm working on this Jackal. Test ride 111 miles later it gets 48.7mpg. My Bassa gets 42.5mpg. That's some difference.
Jackal 2000 20k miles factory intake and straight pipe exhaust, narrow hard bags.
Bassa 2000 64k miles air filter pods, factory exhaust, classic windshield.
Question is why 6 mpg difference? any thoughts?
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: oldbike54 on August 21, 2020, 12:08:26 PM
 Likely most of that is due to the big windshield . My Jackal and Bassa both have Pacifica Aerofoils and bags , boyh get about 41 MPG .

 Dusty
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: Rich A on August 21, 2020, 12:47:35 PM
Different maps could have an effect.

Rich A
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: Bpreynolds2 on August 21, 2020, 01:04:56 PM
So I'm working on this Jackal. Test ride 111 miles later it gets 48.7mpg. My Bassa gets 42.5mpg. That's some difference.
Jackal 2000 20k miles factory intake and straight pipe exhaust, narrow hard bags.
Bassa 2000 64k miles air filter pods, factory exhaust, classic windshield.
Question is why 6 mpg difference? any thoughts?

Either damn way that's way better than I ever got on any of my previous 1100 Calis - usually 40 on the highway and 35 in town on a good day.   
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: Lannis on August 21, 2020, 01:51:56 PM
Really hard to measure fuel mileage accurately in only 111 miles ... unless you've got a graduated cylinder, etc, there are several variables that could have you off by quite a bit .... ?

Lannis
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: Texas Turnip on August 21, 2020, 04:50:19 PM
Poor testing with just results.
Proper test you would need.
! Same road surface.
2. Same wind direction
3. Temperature the same.
4. Barometric pressure.
5. tire pressure
6. Tire tread design.
7. Both bikes at same speed and rpm?
8 Axle bolts same torque?
9. Wheel bearing equally lubed?
Way too many factors to list on a 111 mile uncontrolled test.

Tex
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: PeteS on August 21, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
Do both bike have the 15M computer or does the Jackal have a P8? I thought it they didn't get a 15M until the Stones.

Pete
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: oldbike54 on August 21, 2020, 05:09:11 PM
Do both bike have the 15M computer or does the Jackal have a P8? I thought it they didn't get a 15M until the Stones.

Pete

 Both are 15M equipped .

 Dusty
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: s1120 on August 22, 2020, 06:36:15 AM
Poor testing with just results.
Proper test you would need.
! Same road surface.
2. Same wind direction
3. Temperature the same.
4. Barometric pressure.
5. tire pressure
6. Tire tread design.
7. Both bikes at same speed and rpm?
8 Axle bolts same torque?
9. Wheel bearing equally lubed?
Way too many factors to list on a 111 mile uncontrolled test.

Tex

I always liked to do readings over a matter of months.. Helps wash out the variables of different roads, weather, and situations.

I bet its a combo of the windshield, and how the mapping is working with the engine mods. Knowing how bad my Stone ran with opened up exhausts, I bet the higher MPG bike is much leaner.
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: Bpreynolds2 on August 22, 2020, 07:05:59 AM
Both are 15M equipped .

 Dusty

There was a computer in the 4 Calis I owned, are you effing kidding me??  I thought it was a hamster who ran until the plastic gears in the odo broke.  :thumb:
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: oldbike54 on August 22, 2020, 08:15:18 AM
There was a computer in the 4 Calis I owned, are you effing kidding me??  I thought it was a hamster who ran until the plastic gears in the odo broke.  :thumb:

 Being computer equipped doesn't necessarily mean there isn't Hamster augmentation .

 Dusty
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: Bpreynolds2 on August 22, 2020, 09:46:11 AM
Being computer equipped doesn't necessarily mean there isn't Hamster augmentation .

 Dusty

 :laugh: :grin: :thumb:
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: s1120 on August 23, 2020, 07:04:04 AM
Being computer equipped doesn't necessarily mean there isn't Hamster augmentation .

 Dusty

CRHP.  Its a new Guzzi control system. Computer regulated Hamster propulsion.
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: oldbike54 on August 23, 2020, 09:06:16 AM
 :laugh:  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: BASSA vs JACKAL
Post by: Moparnut72 on August 23, 2020, 09:54:00 AM
You can pretty much blame it on the windshield.  My experience through the years with naked and windshield equipped bikes.
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