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Title: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: pcbiwer on August 25, 2020, 09:45:05 AM
My 2007 Norge key tip broke off in the ignition tumbler.  I removed the 6mm bolt but there is a "drill out" I'm told.  Advice on how to remove the lock tumbler to fish out the key tip or replace?  Also, who cuts keys for the Norge.  It's a paddle with a trench cut down either side, not the traditional tumbler with pips on the key.
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: nc43bsa on August 25, 2020, 09:58:37 AM
Don't locksmiths have a tool for removing a broken key?

Wouldn't it be easier (cheaper <Guzzi content>) to take the switch to a professional?
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: PJPR01 on August 25, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
I had to find a specialty locksmith to cut a spare key for my Norge when one broke...not everyone can do it.  May need to hunt around your area to look for a unique locksmith, mine was mobile so he came to the house.

Have never taken out the tumbler on my Norge, so not able to guide on how to remove it...do you have a manual you can refer to? 
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: malik on August 25, 2020, 04:16:42 PM
If it's similar to the V7, to get the ignition off, you'll have to remove the "upper plate" - aka the top triple clamp (easy to say, isn't it? Just like a Moto Guzzi Service Manual). There's an M8x16 hex socket screw on one side, and on the other the anti-theft snap bolt. From memory, once upside down on the bench, it was pretty easy to get out - a punch, a drill, an ezy-out. I replaced the snap bolt with an ordinal hex socket screw, the same as the one on the other side.
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: 80CX100 on August 25, 2020, 04:59:52 PM
     I got nothing for you, but before you break out the bigger hammer, find out where the receiver is for your chipped key on that bike.

     I know some car ignitions there is a ring around the key switch that reads the chipped key, bidk about mg's,,, you don't want to break that, fwiw.

     Good luck

     Kelly
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: atavar on August 25, 2020, 06:57:14 PM
On other vehicles I have used superglue on the very end of a flat blade screwdriver to retrieve a broken key. Be very careful that the key is all the superglue touches.
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: delrod on August 25, 2020, 07:50:17 PM
     I got nothing for you, but before you break out the bigger hammer, find out where the receiver is for your chipped key on that bike.

     I know some car ignitions there is a ring around the key switch that reads the chipped key, bidk about mg's,,, you don't want to break that, fwiw.
Do not let that Chip get away it is VERY IMPORTANT
     Good luck

     Kelly
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: Huzo on August 25, 2020, 08:19:09 PM
There's an M8x16 hex socket screw on one side, and on the other the anti-theft snap bolt. From memory, once upside down on the bench, it was pretty easy to get out - a punch, a drill, an ezy-out.
Just one question Malik..
How’d you get the V7 upside down on the bench..?  :popcorn: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Removing ignition key lock on Norge
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on August 26, 2020, 05:22:48 AM
Just one question Malik..
How’d you get the V7 upside down on the bench..?  :popcorn: :rolleyes:
Take it to Australia then its already upside down, or Godzone for that matter.