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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ncdan on September 17, 2020, 01:03:44 PM
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Hey guys. A while back I ask what’s the best and cheapest way to get the bars a little higher and back on my 02 California Stone. One of the guys here offered a set of bars off a 1400 tourer and we thought they were the same as a Stone. However when they got to me I measured them and it appears that what we were measuring in inches came out different in millimeters.
The Stone has 30mm bars and the 1400 has 28mm bars, so I’m back to where I started.
Can anyone tell me where or who makes 30mm diameter bar risers. Thus far I’ve been unable to locate anything in that size. I spoke with the rep at ROX accessories who told me there is no such animal out there:(
Thanks in advance!
Dan.
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If you like the bars you were sent. Make a shim to make them fit. Beer cans always work well, cut a strip the width of your clamps and wrap around the bar until thick enough.
As I mentioned, ROX as well as others on for instance Amazon sell risers. Find the one that closest matches your 30mm bar and shim or grind out where you need to.
(https://i.ibb.co/1b6w8Py/20160507-164559.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1b6w8Py)
Good luck,
Tom
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If you like the bars you were sent. Make a shim to make them fit. Beer cans always work well, cut a strip the width of your clamps and wrap around the bar until thick enough.
As I mentioned, ROX as well as others on for instance Amazon sell risers. Find the one that closest matches your 30mm bar and shim or grind out where you need to.
(https://i.ibb.co/1b6w8Py/20160507-164559.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1b6w8Py)
Good luck,
Tom
Thanks Tom for your response.
I really don’t much like the idea of shimmering with the slick material of a can as the ridges are cut into the steel of the bars for a reason, which it to keep them from slipping under pressure. I would rather be able to find the appropriate 30mm risers or bars.
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Dan, I’m about to change out the bars on my Quota. My bars that are going on are 30mm. If I remember right that works out to 1.18 inches which is close enough to 1 1/8” for me. I ordered a pair of riser adapters that are supposed to work. They have shipped and when they arrive I will take measurements and photos for you. 1 1/8” bars are referred to as “fat bars” if that helps you search. Lots of late model cruisers use them.
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Punching numerous small holes in the shim metal and then adding loctite makes for a pretty secure H/bar locking . Peter
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Dan, I’m about to change out the bars on my Quota. My bars that are going on are 30mm. If I remember right that works out to 1.18 inches which is close enough to 1 1/8” for me. I ordered a pair of riser adapters that are supposed to work. They have shipped and when they arrive I will take measurements and photos for you. 1 1/8” bars are referred to as “fat bars” if that helps you search. Lots of late model cruisers use them.
Thanks Bob👍
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If you use Locktite use the green. Just make sure you have them where you want them. The green is sleeve retainer. It will be hell to take it apart.
kk
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If you use Locktite use the green. Just make sure you have them where you want them. The green is sleeve retainer. It will be hell to take it apart.
kk
Problem with that is most of the time it takes me several rides to get the bars just right for my liking.
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should be standard 7/8".
I put a set of superbike bars with some custom made risers/barbacks made for a ST1100 on it. the bike felt just like a smaller Electra glide classic. they are now on a 2001 EV. so much better bend than a stock bar.
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Another option is to lift the bottom half of clamp from the triple tree. I have a set of nice aluminum risers with a longer bolt to accomplish this. I have heard of people using the longer bolt and a pair of matched sockets to do the same.
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^ +1 , Peter , was a common mod on Harley's .
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should be standard 7/8".
I put a set of superbike bars with some custom made risers/barbacks made for a ST1100 on it. the bike felt just like a smaller Electra glide classic. they are now on a 2001 EV. so much better bend than a stock bar.
The Stone bars are 30mm not 7/8”
1400 models are 28mm
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Another option is to lift the bottom half of clamp from the triple tree. I have a set of nice aluminum risers with a longer bolt to accomplish this. I have heard of people using the longer bolt and a pair of matched sockets to do the same.
Yes, I can raise the bars by using deep well sockets or for less height use standard 1/2” drive sockets and in chrome or flat black. However I don’t think I can get the bars back enough using this method.
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I think 28mm might be close to 1 1/8". If you like the new bars, maybe HD risers with pull back would work for you?
Um....One question..... What size are the new bars where the controls go? S/B either 7/8 or 22mm. I don't remember what Guzzi uses. My old BMW is 22mm.
Tom
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I think 28mm might be close to 1 1/8". If you like the new bars, maybe HD risers with pull back would work for you?
Um....One question..... What size are the new bars where the controls go? S/B either 7/8 or 22mm. I don't remember what Guzzi uses. My old BMW is 22mm.
Tom
I don’t think that will work Tom because of the taper at the end of the bars to a 7/8” size. Only Moto guzzi would do something like this😡
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Does anyone by chance have a set of clamps that’s made for 7/8” bars? I could change these two out and finding 7/8” bars are a dime a dozen. A set of buckhorns would work great for me.
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Not trying to add more challenges......but the "bar backs" I got for my Bobber Sport that seem to fit every other bike made......did not fit. :angry:
The distance between bolt holes was off. Way off. I got some generic Rox Risers and that did the trick.
(https://i.ibb.co/WsXgF90/Bar-clamps.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WsXgF90)
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Not trying to add more challenges......but the "bar backs" I got for my Bobber Sport that seem to fit every other bike made......did not fit. :angry:
The distance between bolt holes was off. Way off. I got some generic Rox Risers and that did the trick.
(https://i.ibb.co/WsXgF90/Bar-clamps.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WsXgF90)
No problem Caff but I must admit at this point I’m not sure what option to use as none seem to be a simple take off, put on, option 🤔
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Check parts books. On a 99 EV or Bassa you could get either 22mm or 30mm bars. All you need is the appropriate clamps, the risers are the same
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I'd be off to the machine shop and have what I wanted made. Overkill most likely. just like I like it!
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While you are at it, check the bushings in the triple tree. Turn the bar to full stop, right and left. Continue pushing and you will see that the bar continue to move/twist another inch or more from the sloppy rubber bushings. I removed mine and replace them with a solid bushing. Giving better control of the bars.
I also filled the bars with lead balls used in muzzle loader gun, dipped in silicon sealant to add dampening. A little extra weight, but it made the buzz and vibration go away significantly.
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I moved my bars back and up with a piece of Walnut wood on a 03 EV. One advantage of wood is you can make it to suit your needs. Some have doubted the use of wood. The only way the wood will fail is for you to be in a wreck or to catch the bike on fire.
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I moved my bars back and up with a piece of Walnut wood on a 03 EV. One advantage of wood is you can make it to suit your needs. Some have doubted the use of wood. The only way the wood will fail is for you to be in a wreck or to catch the bike on fire.
Can you post a pic of this???? I do like the idea and think it wood look great. ;)
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I don’t think that will work Tom because of the taper at the end of the bars to a 7/8” size. Only Moto guzzi would do something like this😡
Nope mask did it on the versus 1000 in 2015 go look and measure one as aftermarket bars for it might work for u
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Nope mask did it on the versus 1000 in 2015 go look and measure one as aftermarket bars for it might work for u
Not sure what this is V, could you elaborate a little?
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Not sure what this is V, could you elaborate a little?
Versus is a Kawasaki I believe, like a Suzuki SV650. And it’s a popular mod for metric adv bikes. The pro taper bars I’ve got for my Quota are exactly like this. It does away with the need for a cross brace. My bars are 30mm at center, 22mm (7/8)at ends. It means I don’t have to change out my 22mm controls.
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Versus is a Kawasaki I believe, like a Suzuki SV650. And it’s a popular mod for metric adv bikes. The pro taper bars I’ve got for my Quota are exactly like this. It does away with the need for a cross brace. My bars are 30mm at center, 22mm (7/8)at ends. It means I don’t have to change out my 22mm controls.
Keep in mind what I’m trying to accomplish. I want the bars a couple inches higher and a couple inches back. Would these bars accomplish that?
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Maybe u need to go look at one. & compare
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Maybe u need to go look at one. & compare
Now that I know what the bike is I’d say that should be the next step👍
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Rox Risers
Been using a set on my EV for several years...very adjustable~!
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If I recall correctly, Calvin bars are 30mm. If you can find them, they’re definitely pulled back more than the Stone’s. I’ve had both bikes.
https://www.harpermoto.com/handlebar-03600360.html
https://www.ebay.com/itm/402256010546
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For whatever reason, I'm unable to upload pictures of the wooden riser. Text is all I can get to upload. The Walnut is just a spacer that you can make to suit your needs. On my 03 EV I was able to raise the bars about an inch and half and move them back about two inches before the brake line and cable slack was gone. I made a grove in the wood for the handlebars to set in. Then used the caps that are on the top of the bars to secure the handlebars to the wood riser. Longer bolts were purchased from a bike shop.