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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kballowe on October 06, 2020, 08:33:04 PM
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National Cycle Plexifairing 3 Windshield Fairing - Part # N8613-01 - and (according to National Cycle) will not fit this bike.
According to Dan in NC, it will fit. And thanks, Dusty, for the windshield fitment lesson on the Cali series.
It fits like it is, but the lower section is a bit close to the lower fork legs, and probably should be trimmed to the outside to allow the bottom to tilt in towards the fork legs a little more - and this will allow a little more clearance between the windshield and the turn signals. Or cut some two-inch holes directly behind the turn signals. It'll work the way it is, but if it needs to be tilted one way or another, then there will need to be some modification.
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Looks good buddy👍 I may end up with one in the Stone as I really like that shield as I’ve had four of them over the years. 👍
Give us a review after you ride with it attached a it a bit.
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Looks good buddy👍 I may end up with one in the Stone as I really like that shield as I’ve had four of them over the years. 👍
Give us a review after you ride with it attached a it a bit.
It's not nearly as uglyas that Moto Guzzi factory barn door on the Cali EV
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(https://i.ibb.co/RgC7zT4/20190905-192422.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RgC7zT4)
'98 V11EV with PlexiFairing 3. Too wRm in the summer but nice the other 3 seasons.
I opened the bottom slot to clear the triple tree and shortened the top so I was looking over the fairing at distances beyond 30 feet.
Its a quiet and dry environment that creates a bit if a vacuum that pulls some engine heat over the driver. Great for touring.
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I'm quite happy with the National Cycle F-15 Touring windshield I put on my Stone. It replaced a medium sized Guzzi windshield that was damaged in a laydown. Although the "Touring" designation might be a bit optimistic, the F-15 gives noticeably better protection than the factory shield. Installation was easy and it fits around that big 8" headlight nicely.
(https://i.ibb.co/X8hbp5G/20201006-230650.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X8hbp5G)
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(https://i.ibb.co/RgC7zT4/20190905-192422.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RgC7zT4)
'98 V11EV with PlexiFairing 3. Too wRm in the summer but nice the other 3 seasons.
I opened the bottom slot to clear the triple tree and shortened the top so I was looking over the fairing at distances beyond 30 feet.
Its a quiet and dry environment that creates a bit if a vacuum that pulls some engine heat over the driver. Great for touring.
Yours is mounted a fair amount higher than mine. That's something I hadn't thought of.
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Bring it to Talimena and we'll fix it
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Bring it to Talimena and we'll fix it
OK< good !
I have my own tools !
:boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
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Yours is mounted a fair amount higher than mine. That's something I hadn't thought of.
Mounting height was chosen to put the grips vertically centered in the grip bulge of the fairing. Bars are custom so height might be different.
Rode it cross country and back last year. Got my share of bugs on it!
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I used a Plexifairing 3 on my California, and later on my EV. I liked them, and probably put well over 100,000 miles on them.
BUT, the rumbling and turbulence were always annoying.
I eventually switched to a Swanee, and it is SO much quieter. I tried all kind of tricks on the Plexifairing and could never get rid of the turbulence. I suspect it needed a big hole in it to let some fresh air flow behind the windshield.
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Just back from a mixed 2-lane/interstate 40 mile ride and am pleased with this windscreen. Some minor tweaks are in order, but that's it.
I'm 5'9" with a 29" inseam. You taller guys would maybe want to raise this one up some. It's nearly perfect for my size. Doesn't need any additional lower wind deflectors, either.
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I tried the Plexi 2 several times on my Jackal. never could quite get the buffeting and wind roar down to an acceptable level. Good for you that you made it work. I would have liked to use mine.
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I have either purchased or fabricated lower wind deflectors on virtually every motorcycle I have ever owned. This Flexifairing 3 has that built into the windshield, so I'm not getting any wind from up and around the tank.
I looked at those shorter models like the Plexi 2, but I figured that if this one didn't fit, then I could always cut it down until it DID fit. lol
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Throwing this into the discussion. A Jackal need a windscreen that has the bulge for the single gauge vs the Cali which has the dual gauge pod. Difference on the windscreen fitment. This is often overlooked.
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Is this the same fairing cited earlier for the Shadow 750?
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Don't know on this one. I have a National Cycle Plexistar II & III. They should fit but you can check on a website somewhere.
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Throwing this into the discussion. A Jackal need a windscreen that has the bulge for the single gauge vs the Cali which has the dual gauge pod. Difference on the windscreen fitment. This is often overlooked.
Right. My Jackal has been modified and has the two, and this one has a big enough "bubble".
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OK....never mind. :thumb: Then the II or III should have fit with no problems. :angel:
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Is this the same fairing cited earlier for the Shadow 750?
John -
Here's the application chart
http://www.nationalcycle.com/plexifairing-mt.html (http://www.nationalcycle.com/plexifairing-mt.html)
Kevin
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(https://i.ibb.co/3045hwB/IMG-3621.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3045hwB)
I think I have the Plexifaring II on mine. Someone told me the III was too hot. Anyway, I like the II quite a bit, I don't get the turbulence others are talking about, but then again windshields are a very person specific item..
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I have used the plexi 2 and 3 for decades and have never noted any unusual or excessive “turbulence” just a calm pocket of air.
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John -
Here's the application chart
http://www.nationalcycle.com/plexifairing-mt.html (http://www.nationalcycle.com/plexifairing-mt.html)
Kevin
As I searched, the Shadow 750 is listed as N8803-01. So there is already some confusion.
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I think I have the Plexifaring II on mine. Someone told me the III was too hot. Anyway, I like the II quite a bit, I don't get the turbulence others are talking about, but then again windshields are a very person specific item..
I have a II mounted on my '97 Cal 1100i like yours same color too.
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Forgive me for this old topic. I'm trying to get my '98 EV together after a recent spill. I'd like to get a Plexifairing 3 for it.
Just running a sanity check regarding the right one.
Part # N8613-01 is the one with a little
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Forgive me for this old topic. I'm trying to get my '98 EV together after a recent spill. I'd like to get a Plexifairing 3 for it.
Just running a sanity check regarding the right one.
Part # N8613-01 is the one with a little
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It’s been over 10 years ago and I don’t want to tell you something wrong that would cause a problem if you order one but to the best of my knowledge here’s what my situation was.
I had a 2004 cali EV and wanted a plexi 3 for it because I had had a couple of them on other Honda bikes over the years.
A guy who was working at the business where I was trying to buy the plexi, that was assisting me in finding a shield that would fit the cali EV, knew where one was at near him.
He took the plexi 3 designed for the 1999 Honda Shadow and fitted it to the EV and it fit perfectly.
The only thing that had to be changed for the fitting process from the Honda to the EV was the fork clamps on the EV had to be bigger than the Honda fork clamps, I can remember the MM size.
When it came in it fit perfectly with no
Detailed modifications necessary, to the best of my memory.
Hope this helps.
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Where it got interesting for me was the fact that National makes a number of variations that are all labeled PlexiFairing 3. They have different bends and cutouts I know the one on my T3 is distinctly different then the one on my EV. They both required some cutting to fit.
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Where it got interesting for me was the fact that National makes a number of variations that are all labeled PlexiFairing 3. They have different bends and cutouts I know the one on my T3 is distinctly different then the one on my EV. They both required some cutting to fit.
Plexi3 is the design with lowers.
There are different configurations for headlights and instrument arrangements.
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I have the Plexi 2 on my 98 EV ,the one with the shorter lowers, and its great. I replaced the Guzzi "barn door" which had some crazy distortion, especially when looking down at the ground in front of the tire. It made it difficult when negotiating uneven, gravelly, parking lots and such. National cycles mounting system works real well on the big Guzzi.
Rick
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I have a plexi fairing2 that someone’s is welcome to if they want to cover the shipping.
It will need all the hardware as well as replacing the stick on brackets on the back of the shield.
It’s an older one but has only minor scratches and it’s a look over do a few scratches won’t hurt the function any.
Just PM if interested.
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I used a Plexifairing 3 on my California, and later on my EV. I liked them, and probably put well over 100,000 miles on them.
BUT, the rumbling and turbulence were always annoying.
I eventually switched to a Swanee, and it is SO much quieter. I tried all kind of tricks on the Plexifairing and could never get rid of the turbulence. I suspect it needed a big hole in it to let some fresh air flow behind the windshield.
What Wayne sez.
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The bike HAD a Plexistar 2 on it- before I crashed my EV. I'm not getting another one. I HAD PF3 at one time too and found it quite good but it broke into a couple of pieces when I took it off to clean it and it fell from my work bench.
So if I can find one that fits and decide to keep the EV, I think for $250 the PF3 might be a bargain, considering.
BTW- I could use a SHORT STALK front signal for my EV. I also need a LONG STALK rear too but I think MG has one (1).
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Turn signals would work from the V11 sports. However the same supplier sold them to Kymco too. Way cheaper. If there is a motorcycle bone-yard near you. Cheap off a Kymco moped.
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Turn signals would work from the V11 sports. However the same supplier sold them to Kymco too. Way cheaper. If there is a motorcycle bone-yard near you. Cheap off a Kymco moped.
Thanks, I'll check Kymco. No luck for salvage parts from my search.
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I just checked Amazon. Loads of options. Go shopping. :grin:
https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Lights-Direction-Indicator-Motorbike/dp/B0B81BSD5C/ref=sr_1_73?crid=VQODPBX8KE6H&keywords=kymco+50cc+scooter+turn+signal+lights&qid=1663181125&sprefix=kymco+50cc+scooter+turn+signal+lights%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-73
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I just checked Amazon. Loads of options. Go shopping. :grin:
https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Lights-Direction-Indicator-Motorbike/dp/B0B81BSD5C/ref=sr_1_73?crid=VQODPBX8KE6H&keywords=kymco+50cc+scooter+turn+signal+lights&qid=1663181125&sprefix=kymco+50cc+scooter+turn+signal+lights%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-73
Tom, I want to thank you very much. Both my front and back signals work, they're just scraped up. Luckily I have a couple of take-off with broken stalks in my stash. So I can at least change out the lenses (and thanks to a poster here for giving me one of those). I doubt I can get the chrome housing off the old broken stalks. The front one is buggered up pretty good, the other one a little less. At least I have lenses.
In other news the bike looks pretty good. The rack, grab handle and seat back have polished up nice to point of not visible in the shop. The mirrors and crash bars are on order. Next is the PF3.
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Okay. I was going with the notion that you didn't have options. Carry-on. :thumb:
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Okay. I was going with the notion that you didn't have options. Carry-on. :thumb:
you're a scholar and a gentleman.
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I'm pulling the trigger on this one for my EV. Since I crashed last Sept, I've been without any windshield. That bike is awful in the wind. Helluva windblast. Took a death grip at 70mph just to hang on. Even if I sell the little beast, I'd feel bad to sell it to anyone that was riding it on the highway. It still runs like a train.
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Hope it works out with all the inclement weather. :thumb: We had a bunch of snow on Mauna Kea Na Mauna Loa. Should be the next big storm hitting Cali. :boozing:
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Hope it works out with all the inclement weather. :thumb: We had a bunch of snow on Mauna Kea Na Mauna Loa. Should be the next big storm hitting Cali. :boozing:
we've had some great 70 degree weather here in the heartland. I've been concentrating on the EV for the last week of riding. Ridden the Duc some while the Greenie is in the shop. Took the EV on the highway and the wind blast is pretty bad. I've always ridden it with a windshield, PF3 being quite a bit better. Without, it's just an around town bike.
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I ordered the darn thing yesterday morning about the time I wrote about it here. I took the Mrs to lunch, we got home around 3 pm and it was on the porch. I'll let ya'll know when I put it on.
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Got the fairing on today. It's a tight fit but it does fit. Took a test ride, lots of traffic so I didn't get a long ride. Got it up to about 75mph briefly with a 15-20 mph headwind. It certainly works as well as I remember so far as wind protection and minimal buffeting. I did get some wind noise with defected air coming over the top of the windshield. I'll do some adjusting although movement is limited.
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Just remember that the windscreen material cuts easily. If it's a bit of a tight fit just trim excess material until it's a perfect fit.
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Just remember that the windscreen material cuts easily. If it's a bit of a tight fit just trim excess material until it's a perfect fit.
The tightest parts are where the trim is glued to the fairing around the headlight and forks.. :embarrassed:
But i can be pretty dangerous with dremel. That's good and bad. :evil:
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The tightest parts are where the trim is glued to the fairing around the headlight and forks.. :embarrassed:
But i can be pretty dangerous with dremel. That's good and bad. :evil:
Was you able to get big enough clamps for the huge Guzzi forks?
I remember having to take measurements because they didn’t have the size on any chart due to not be offered for the 2004 EV I put the Plexi 3 on.
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I just pulled the trim off my P3 when I fit it to the '98 EV.
Replaced it with 1/4" fuel hose slit down the length.
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Was you able to get big enough clamps for the huge Guzzi forks?
I remember having to take measurements because they didn’t have the size on any chart due to not be offered for the 2004 EV I put the Plexi 3 on.
If you're talking about the hose clamps, they were plenty big.
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I just pulled the trim off my P3 when I fit it to the '98 EV.
Replaced it with 1/4" fuel hose slit down the length.
It actually fits, it's just a tight fit. Since I got some wind noise, I am actually thinking about raising it an inch or two.
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Final report. Got it where I want it. keeping it about 2 1/2 in above headlight.
For some reason the bike seems to ride, handle and feel much better with the windscreen and HB JR bags on it. Can't explain why the bags would matter.
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If you're talking about the hose clamps, they were plenty big.
The fork clamps that came with my P3 was an adjustable aluminum type clamp that had 3 adjustment settings and it took the largest ones that was offered.
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Every P3 I've seen uses hose clamps on the fork tubes. I've seen the 3 stage clamps but they were on a pair of lower deflectors that the PO added to my V11.
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You are right, Sir, it’s been several years since I had my last P3 but I remember now those clamps came with National Cycle lowers.
My apologies to LR for the misinformation and glad the project is working out.
Thanks for the correction 👍
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Just grateful that forum provided me with the right part number to get the right windshield. Like I said, the bike rides 10 times better. Despite binning it a few months ago the bike looks pretty nice for 71k miles.
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Here’s the P3 on the Honda shadow that I had on my 04 EV.
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Here's a Plexistar II on an 98 EV thread
https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=107853.0 (https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=107853.0)
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I had a 2 on my Jackal for a bit.
(https://i.ibb.co/vDXFpYY/Jackal.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vDXFpYY)
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I had a P2 on my EV before I binned it. Awful, buffets terribly. If you're stuck with one, get as high and raked as far back as possible. It's still better than no windshield.
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Yes. That's exactly what I had to do with the two. High and leaned WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY back.