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Title: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: Pdmartin on December 15, 2020, 12:19:06 PM
Somewhere I saw a chart for the V9 that give you your rpm by charting your speed and what gear you’re in. I thought I had copied it but can’t find it. As my V9 has no tach it would’ve been handy just for reference. Anyone have a link?
Thanks
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: SmithSwede on December 15, 2020, 12:29:43 PM
Do you have the owner’s manual and all the gear ratios?  Easy enough to “do the math” on this. 
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: Tom H on December 15, 2020, 12:31:45 PM
If you go here and scroll down there is a gearspeed program. But you need to know your ratios,

https://www.von-der-salierburg.de/download/GuzziDiag/

Tom
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: Caffeineo on December 15, 2020, 01:20:35 PM
https://www.gearingcommander.com/ (https://www.gearingcommander.com/) This site has some Guzzi's but not the V9. :(
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: Daniel Kalal on December 15, 2020, 01:46:29 PM
The arithmetic is simple enough.  Do you have the ratios (gear/primary/final) out of the owner's manual (as well as your rear wheel circumference)?  I'd be happy to put something like this together for you:

(http://www.dankalal.net/wildguzzi/cal2speedgear.jpg)
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: Pdmartin on December 15, 2020, 06:41:33 PM
Thanks, everyone.
Assuming I entered the stats correctly here’s the result.
(https://i.ibb.co/jHF8zkb/FB170558-5-B01-4-E40-A824-DC74-C41263-C5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jHF8zkb)
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: chuck peterson on December 16, 2020, 07:39:15 AM
It’d be neat to know speed in each gear at max torque rpm so you find shift points around that area

I like to shift my v7 Nevada at 6800-7200 to get back hard into the power band when i go too fast
 :evil:

If I didn’t have a tach im sure id be lugging the motor below 3600. A steady 5500-6200 on my smallblock and that motor just sings such a sweet swiss watch tune

Don’t be afraid to get it up there! My ear may be saying it’s too much but the motor says otherwise
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: DaveJT on December 16, 2020, 10:44:43 AM
It’d be neat to know speed in each gear at max torque rpm so you find shift points around that area

I like to shift my v7 Nevada at 6800-7200 to get back hard into the power band when i go too fast
 :evil:

If I didn’t have a tach im sure id be lugging the motor below 3600. A steady 5500-6200 on my smallblock and that motor just sings such a sweet swiss watch tune

Don’t be afraid to get it up there! My ear may be saying it’s too much but the motor says otherwise

7200? I’m not a small block guy, and I know not to lug it, but man that seems high to me.  Also, should I be worried about sump capacity on the small blocks? Or is that not that much of an issue. I was gonna cafe a Cali, but maybe a v7 racer is the way to go..or baby breva..
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: SmithSwede on December 16, 2020, 02:13:03 PM
I think redline is 7200 rpm.  But max horsepower is around 6200 rpm, so you don’t gain anything revving higher.   

I keep my above 4,000 rpm at all times, unless I’m barely puttering through town with almost no throttle at 35 mph or below.  It is still around 3500.  Normal running is between 4000 and 5500 rpm.   

I routinely run mine at 5,000 rpm or above on the interstate. 
So 80 to 85 mph by GPS.  All day. 

The higher capacity oil sump divides people.   Some smart people like them.   I have stayed with the stock set up for several reasons.   

I don’t burn much oil, and I religiously check the level.  I’m not worried that I will suddenly lose a quart of oil without noticing it (which I think was a genuine problem with the oil rings on the older 2 throttle body small blocks).

I think the nominal 2 liters of engine oil is plenty.  People forget that most bikes share engine and gear oil, but the Guzzi has a full one liter separately devoted to the gears. 

I want the oil to heat up as quickly as possible and minimize wear.  If you add more oil, you slow the warm up period.   

I’m running pretty expensive synthetic oil.  I’d rather not spend another $17 for an oil change.

Finally, I’m worried about the ground clearance.   I’ve ridden over plenty of hidden curbs and other obstacles.   Just last week I hit a frost heave on a railroad track that launched the bike into the air and slammed it back down on uneven pavement.   The stock oil sump never hits anything.   
Title: Re: Rpm speed vs gear chart.
Post by: DaveJT on December 16, 2020, 06:50:06 PM
I think redline is 7200 rpm.  But max horsepower is around 6200 rpm, so you don’t gain anything revving higher.   

I keep my above 4,000 rpm at all times, unless I’m barely puttering through town with almost no throttle at 35 mph or below.  It is still around 3500.  Normal running is between 4000 and 5500 rpm.   

I routinely run mine at 5,000 rpm or above on the interstate. 
So 80 to 85 mph by GPS.  All day. 

The higher capacity oil sump divides people.   Some smart people like them.   I have stayed with the stock set up for several reasons.   

I don’t burn much oil, and I religiously check the level.  I’m not worried that I will suddenly lose a quart of oil without noticing it (which I think was a genuine problem with the oil rings on the older 2 throttle body small blocks).

I think the nominal 2 liters of engine oil is plenty.  People forget that most bikes share engine and gear oil, but the Guzzi has a full one liter separately devoted to the gears. 

I want the oil to heat up as quickly as possible and minimize wear.  If you add more oil, you slow the warm up period.   

I’m running pretty expensive synthetic oil.  I’d rather not spend another $17 for an oil change.

Finally, I’m worried about the ground clearance.   I’ve ridden over plenty of hidden curbs and other obstacles.   Just last week I hit a frost heave on a railroad track that launched the bike into the air and slammed it back down on uneven pavement.   The stock oil sump never hits anything.

All great points. Thanks for the info !