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Title: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: not-fishing on December 29, 2020, 10:49:34 PM
In 2020 I was surprised with how many people in in California bought the V85-TT.

I couldn't wait until New Years and with the new V7-85 to ask and I've wondering how many of us figure on another Guzzi in 2021?

Being retired with limited riding this year I did buy a V65 SP stored in a "barn" for a decade, dropped repeatedly and poorly repaired/modified.  a real Resto-Mod for 2020

A few months ago I had to put my favorite hunting dog to sleep.  Tonight my other 15 1/2 year old spaniel of the "Brace of Hunting Spaniels" has shown she's not long for this world.  I'm calling the Vet in the morning

I'm getting to old to wait, after New Year's I'm going to visit a fella who's had a sidecar for sale for some time....
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: jdgretz on December 30, 2020, 02:23:37 AM
First, sorry for your dog issues - that sort of thing is never easy.  BTDT  :sad:

I need to put another 20K on my Norge, then I may start looking for a lighter Guzzi.  Maybe that new V7 could be the one, if I don't get a V85.  I'll keep the Goldwing for the long rides, but for shorter stuff or getting off the tarmac, something lighter that isn't all plastic would do the trick.

Thinking of 470-500 lbs as being light weight may sound strange to some, but the Norge is currently my lightweight bike.

jdg

p.s.  Why another 20K?  That will put me a bit over 100K on Sophia.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: bobrebos on December 30, 2020, 02:26:27 AM
Sorry to hear of your current hunting dog and the dog you had put to sleep a few months ago.  I have a 14 year old English springer spaniel that is not long for this world either.  I am looking into a 2005 Breva 750ie if i can get it for my price which i doubt.  I think the owner is firm on his price and we are about 500$ different.  Oh well.  Life is short and goes on so be happy with what we got! 


(https://i.ibb.co/THnBk09/2005-mg-breva.jpg) (https://ibb.co/THnBk09)
 
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: egschade on December 30, 2020, 06:45:14 AM
Craving a plusher ride than my well-liked V7 III can offer. Rather then dumping $$$ into premium suspension upgrades I may get a V85TT if used ones start to hit the market.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: s1120 on December 30, 2020, 06:51:18 AM
Sorry about the dogs.. Thats always hard..

As for a new Guzzi..  I always keep a eye out. I wasn't looking for a cruzer when I stumbled across my clean low mile cali metal right down the road..I just had to get it. I love the bike, and its going nowhere, but I still dream of something more sporting..  Age and how I use it is telling me to get something smaller, so I might just end up with a V7, but you know...  Ive had the sidecar bug about as long as ive wanted a Guzzi, and it would be great to fill both wants..  So ya.. Im looking. A nice V7, or a Guzzi/sidecar rig..   Doubt it will be this year though, but you never know.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: kingoffleece on December 30, 2020, 07:13:59 AM
Sold the Norge.  I'll be interested is a V85 variant in a road going motorcycle as opposed to the TT style if and when it comes along to replace the Norge.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: JJ on December 30, 2020, 07:19:57 AM
Yes...looking forward to the spring and 2021... :thumb: :cool: :wink:  Another Guzzi in my future?  One never knows...but if I decide sell the Centauro, probably, but I am not inclined to do so right now... :wink: :cool:
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Joliet Jim on December 30, 2020, 08:17:12 AM
I'm really liking the look of the new V7, but haven't seen a V85tt in person yet. Also really like a used Cali 1400 variety.  Best answer it depends on a lot of things aligning and moving the Centauro.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: JJ on December 30, 2020, 08:19:04 AM
I'm really liking the look of the new V7, but haven't seen a V85tt in person yet. Also really like a used Cali 1400 variety.  Best answer it depends on a lot of things aligning and moving the Centauro.

I suspect you would miss "The Psycho Chicken" if you sold it... :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Lannis on December 30, 2020, 08:21:33 AM
Only a few of my motorcycle purchases in life have been "planned".   Right now I have more bikes than I ride, and I do know that (due to natural human aging processes) I won't be buying any bikes as heavy and powerful as two of them that I already have, so it's more likely that the herd will be culled than enhanced.

No new heavy powerful ones ... old, interesting, and lighter might be in the cards ...

Lannis
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Canuck750 on December 30, 2020, 11:04:24 AM
I would like to find a GUZZI big single, preferably a postwar GTV, and I wouldn’t turn down a Galeto project.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Murray on December 30, 2020, 11:25:06 AM
Short answer no, highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 30, 2020, 11:48:54 AM
I have no plans on buying one but you never knows what deals may present themselves throughout the year.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: philwarner on December 30, 2020, 11:56:52 AM
Sorry about the dogs.. Thats always hard..

As for a new Guzzi..  I always keep a eye out. I wasn't looking for a cruzer when I stumbled across my clean low mile cali metal right down the road..I just had to get it. I love the bike, and its going nowhere, but I still dream of something more sporting..  Age and how I use it is telling me to get something smaller, so I might just end up with a V7, but you know...  Ive had the sidecar bug about as long as ive wanted a Guzzi, and it would be great to fill both wants..  So ya.. Im looking. A nice V7, or a Guzzi/sidecar rig..   Doubt it will be this year though, but you never know.

Six years ago I looked at a 77 Convert with a Velorex sidecar I saw on Craig's list.  Didn't know much about Guzzis at the time but the fact that it was missing the clutch and had one speed concerned me.  The owner said he still rode it around the small town now and then, and it was fun to drive it from the side car and see folks reaction.  The amount of dust on it indicated the local rides were not too often anymore so I passed on it.  I might call the guy again in the future to see if it is still in his garage, but I plan to look at a newer Cali first and trade up if it fits my short stature.

Here's the Convert:


(https://i.ibb.co/X8BQfB3/77-convert-CL-3500-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X8BQfB3)

(https://i.ibb.co/WpgkwRS/77-convert-CL-3500-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WpgkwRS)
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Tom on December 30, 2020, 01:06:12 PM
I wouldn't worry about running in one gear....Low/High range.  They do well in either range.  A clutch isn't necessary.  Just make sure you have the brakes on when starting the engine.  It'll jump on you and start rolling.   :evil:  BTDT.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 30, 2020, 01:12:43 PM
Six years ago I looked at a 77 Convert with a Velorex sidecar I saw on Craig's list.  Didn't know much about Guzzis at the time but the fact that it was missing the clutch and had one speed concerned me.  The owner said he still rode it around the small town now and then, and it was fun to drive it from the side car and see folks reaction.  The amount of dust on it indicated the local rides were not too often anymore so I passed on it.  I might call the guy again in the future to see if it is still in his garage, but I plan to look at a newer Cali first and trade up if it fits my short stature.

Here's the Convert:


(https://i.ibb.co/X8BQfB3/77-convert-CL-3500-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X8BQfB3)

(https://i.ibb.co/WpgkwRS/77-convert-CL-3500-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WpgkwRS)


IMHO the Velorex 562 is not a good match for the convert. The chair is too light for the bike. The Velorex was made for 300 to 500cc bikes with minimal HP. Not that the Convert is a muscle bike but it just too big. I have Velorex 562 on a 36 HP DR650 and had extensive work done to it to add natural ballast and rigidity to make it a better match for all the HP. 
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Tom on December 30, 2020, 01:39:45 PM
I'd run ballast in that too. 
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: flip on December 30, 2020, 01:40:58 PM
I can't rule it out but if they made something tall, with good legroom and came out with an engine with more power than their current lineup, I'd consider it.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: kballowe on December 30, 2020, 01:46:19 PM
I want a 1400 Tour
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Tom on December 30, 2020, 01:48:18 PM
I'd rather have a Eldo 1400.  Wanna trade?  :grin:

I still need to get to AZ for my 2 bike's stored in PHX.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: NC Steve on December 30, 2020, 05:35:42 PM
Quite maybe, depending on when or if the V785 comes out.

If the stats are similar to the ones for the Triumph Street Twin I've been eyeing, I'd druther go with the Guzzi.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: s1120 on December 31, 2020, 04:58:47 AM
Six years ago I looked at a 77 Convert with a Velorex sidecar I saw on Craig's list.  Didn't know much about Guzzis at the time but the fact that it was missing the clutch and had one speed concerned me.  The owner said he still rode it around the small town now and then, and it was fun to drive it from the side car and see folks reaction.  The amount of dust on it indicated the local rides were not too often anymore so I passed on it.  I might call the guy again in the future to see if it is still in his garage, but I plan to look at a newer Cali first and trade up if it fits my short stature.

Here's the Convert:


(https://i.ibb.co/X8BQfB3/77-convert-CL-3500-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X8BQfB3)

(https://i.ibb.co/WpgkwRS/77-convert-CL-3500-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WpgkwRS)


Always thought a Convert would be a cool bike to put a chair on! 
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Bulldog9 on December 31, 2020, 08:32:04 AM
Always thought a Convert would be a cool bike to put a chair on!

What would be a recommended weight for a sidecar on a Convert, this is for sale near me for a reasonable price.

 
(https://i.ibb.co/v3Jcm6L/133597097-10164489978040641-5952011250796715157-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v3Jcm6L)
 

As far as a NEW bike in the stable, unlikely in 2021 unless it is to replace something.  I have all I need.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: larrys on December 31, 2020, 09:18:21 AM
Six years ago I looked at a 77 Convert with a Velorex sidecar I saw on Craig's list.  Didn't know much about Guzzis at the time but the fact that it was missing the clutch and had one speed concerned me.  The owner said he still rode it around the small town now and then, and it was fun to drive it from the side car and see folks reaction.  The amount of dust on it indicated the local rides were not too often anymore so I passed on it.  I might call the guy again in the future to see if it is still in his garage, but I plan to look at a newer Cali first and trade up if it fits my short stature.

Here's the Convert:


(https://i.ibb.co/X8BQfB3/77-convert-CL-3500-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X8BQfB3)

(https://i.ibb.co/WpgkwRS/77-convert-CL-3500-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WpgkwRS)


My first Guzzi was a '76 Convert with a California sidecar. The chair was a good match for the bike. I also built a '69 Bonneville with a Routt 750 big bore kit with a Velorex 562. That was a matched set, too and drove real nice. I put a lawnmower battery in the chair for a little ballast.
Larry
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: s1120 on December 31, 2020, 11:54:54 AM
What would be a recommended weight for a sidecar on a Convert, this is for sale near me for a reasonable price.

 
(https://i.ibb.co/v3Jcm6L/133597097-10164489978040641-5952011250796715157-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v3Jcm6L)
 

As far as a NEW bike in the stable, unlikely in 2021 unless it is to replace something.  I have all I need.

No idea. I lost out on a old Velorex 562 back in the early 90's because everyone told me my old GS650 was just way to small for it..  now people tell me that the chair is too small for any real size motorcycle. SO I am pretty clueless about it.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: LowRyter on December 31, 2020, 11:58:21 AM
I want a 1400 Tour

Didn't you just have a couple of 1400s?
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: tazio on December 31, 2020, 12:18:11 PM
New Guzzi? No, still in love with the GRiSO! and I'm hanging onto the 1982 Honda CB900c.
But...I'm thisclose to selling the Harley Street Glide for an '08 Victory Vision Tour.


(https://i.ibb.co/XsNT9mM/02victory-vision.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsNT9mM)
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: bobrebos on December 31, 2020, 12:45:22 PM
New Guzzi? No, still in love with the GRiSO! and I'm hanging onto the 1982 Honda CB900c.
But...I'm thisclose to selling the Harley Street Glide for an '08 Victory Vision Tour.


(https://i.ibb.co/XsNT9mM/02victory-vision.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XsNT9mM)


Good luck with your sale and purchase Tazio!
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: bobrebos on December 31, 2020, 12:49:41 PM
I have put in offers on three bikes within the last two weeks about, and two cars.  Lost them all, or seller said no to my offer.  Latest is this 2005 Breva 750ie.  2020 luck is running out so Im guessing i will get lucky on one in 2021.  Happy New Year!


(https://i.ibb.co/52N05bH/2005-mg-breva.jpg) (https://ibb.co/52N05bH)
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Bill929 on December 31, 2020, 02:10:37 PM
If all goes well, this one will be mine on Monday...  I've seen the bike in person, agreed on a price and put down a deposit.  Final purchase subject to my test ride... 

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2014-Moto+Guzzi-CALIFORNIA+1400+TOURING-5014938046
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: NC Steve on January 02, 2021, 01:50:51 PM
If all goes well, this one will be mine on Monday...  I've seen the bike in person, agreed on a price and put down a deposit.  Final purchase subject to my test ride... 

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2014-Moto+Guzzi-CALIFORNIA+1400+TOURING-5014938046

How is the Cali 1400 fetching going?
If you need some help riding down to FL to pick it up let me know, I'd be happy to ride along and assist.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: wrbix on January 02, 2021, 02:08:02 PM
My hand osteoarthritis is trying to convince me to stop riding. I’m trying to convince it that a Convert would be the logical conclusion.
Opinions here?
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Green1000S on January 02, 2021, 02:13:46 PM

Right now there's nothing on the Guzzi line I'm interested of. (having a Stelvio and Stornello)
However, I might consider old Ambo/Eldo...
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Moparnut72 on January 02, 2021, 02:26:53 PM
If the factory builds a street going version of the V85TT I would consider that. A bike with a bigger frame than the V7lll. Maybe the Roamer fits that parameter but I have never seen one. They have, what few there are, have all been too far away. I would trade my Audace and V7 for something in between. The Audace is starting to get too heavy for me but I would like something a bit bigger than the V7 for touring not that the V7 can't do it. Just something a bit bigger but not at the big block level.
kk
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: usedtobefast on January 02, 2021, 07:47:20 PM
Very tempted to get a California Vintage:


(https://i.ibb.co/5Rt4gLY/2008-moto-guzzi-californi-3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5Rt4gLY)


But I'd have to sell a bike to make room for it and just can't part with any right now. 
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 03, 2021, 11:14:17 AM
As a Stelvio owner, a bike built somewhat to the same concept as a V85TT, that take seems strange to me.

As we were searching for a two-up transcontinental tourer, we test-rode everything from Honda ST1300s to Kaw Voyagers to Harley Road Glides to Guzzi EV Tourings .... but once we rode a Stelvio, we realized that it was the bike for us.   Since then, we've put about 60,000 miles on it, and it's the best street bike I've ever had.    Best on the big highways, best on the blue highways, best on the back roads.   

What is it, in your experience, that makes the V85 not a "street" bike?   It sure doesn't look like a trail bike to me!

 :bow:

Lannis

Anyone who has ever had to turn one of today's "Adventure tourer" bikes around on a single track trail will quickly realize it's no "trail bike" I won't get off the two track on the Tiger. It's NOT fun to me.
Title: Re: Looking forward to 2021 - do you see another Guzzi in your future
Post by: Moparnut72 on January 03, 2021, 02:42:07 PM
As a Stelvio owner, a bike built somewhat to the same concept as a V85TT, that take seems strange to me.

As we were searching for a two-up transcontinental tourer, we test-rode everything from Honda ST1300s to Kaw Voyagers to Harley Road Glides to Guzzi EV Tourings .... but once we rode a Stelvio, we realized that it was the bike for us.   Since then, we've put about 60,000 miles on it, and it's the best street bike I've ever had.    Best on the big highways, best on the blue highways, best on the back roads.   

What is it, in your experience, that makes the V85 not a "street" bike?   It sure doesn't look like a trail bike to me!

 :bow:

Too tall for one thing. Needs to have more of a classic look, one reason I went with the Special for my second bike. Just not into the styling. My Audace is about as radical as I can get. After all I am old, as in old school. See the how old are you thread.
kk