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Title: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: bad Chad on December 31, 2020, 05:31:38 PM
Often, when I read a comment that I question on WG, I wonder if the poster is slow, average, or sailing near the sun?  Typically, if I look at their profile, they don't list their IQ.  Is this because they think it might make them more susceptible to being scammed, or make it easier for them to be found on social media?

I only ask because sometimes a response from a WG member makes me wonder their IQ....... in other words, what might guide their response.

Some WG members post their IQ in their profile, most don't.

Just curious.

Mine is really hard to figure.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: bobrebos on December 31, 2020, 06:03:02 PM
Mine is in the negative numbers but it’s all good.  I have found most people who think they are smart are just pompous a($(holes.  Lol.  Happy New Year
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Murray on December 31, 2020, 06:14:45 PM
Somewhere between 135 and 160 acording to the interwebs....... somehow I doubt that. I have no idea I probablly haven't done one since I joined the south pacfic flying club which I left 20 plus years ago even then I never saw the results. Is it common for the average US citzen to know thier number? Under what circumstances in regular life would you take a test aside from curiosity and some dodgey online thing?
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: lucian on December 31, 2020, 06:24:57 PM
All I know is if you can't dazzle em with brilliance , baffle em with bull shite!
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 31, 2020, 06:32:22 PM
I'd be afraid to find out. I was a 70's-80's kid  :boozing:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Ncdan on December 31, 2020, 06:44:11 PM
Unfortunately high IQ has nothing to do with good ole comments sense. Personally I’d much rather deal with someone with common sense 👍
I also have taken the online IQ test but will refrain from posting any results because I’m afraid it will eventually reflect badly on something ignorant I’m bound to say here🤔😂
Everyone  have a great and safe New Year!
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: moto-uno on December 31, 2020, 06:47:49 PM
  Is room temperature good ?  :boozing: :boozing: , Peter
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Dilliw on December 31, 2020, 06:54:02 PM
Unfortunately high IQ has nothing to do with good ole comments sense. Personally I’d much rather deal with someone with common sense 👍

With guys I've found its more about the age they stopped developing mentally.  I met Michael Stipe one time and thought he had made it to at least grad school.  I know I stopped around 11th grade.  I'm sure Lannis didn't get past 7th.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: guzzisteve on December 31, 2020, 07:31:14 PM
If they got a big IQ how come they're on a Guzzi?  OH, so they can bitch about it.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Scott of the Sahara on December 31, 2020, 07:39:05 PM
My IQ is somewhere between Genius and Dumb - dumb
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: JJ on December 31, 2020, 07:48:35 PM
Unfortunately high IQ has nothing to do with good ole comments sense. Personally I’d much rather deal with someone with common sense 👍
I also have taken the online IQ test but will refrain from posting any results because I’m afraid it will eventually reflect badly on something ignorant I’m bound to say here🤔😂
Everyone  have a great and safe New Year!

They say on a normal day, Einstein needed a road map to get out of a phone booth...but on the other hand, he was brilliant beyond most people's comprehension... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:

They also say he commonly wore socks of different colors...because he did not care...and was on a different plane of thought, then the average person. 

Everyone learns and thinks at different levels...so, (IMHO), IQ is not a measure of someone's worth as a human being... :wink:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Murray on December 31, 2020, 07:55:18 PM

They also say he commonly wore socks of different colors...because he did not care...and was on a different plane of thought, then the average person.

Socks all one colour FTW!
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: oldbike54 on December 31, 2020, 08:01:01 PM
 Looks like a troll thread . How do we feel about those ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Wildroamer on December 31, 2020, 08:18:08 PM
Then again, maybe he's just being a little silly. Most seem to have taken it that way. As for me, well, I always enjoy saying to the kids, "I'm not a idiot!"
Happy New Year 🎉
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on December 31, 2020, 08:23:20 PM
Looks like a troll thread . How do we feel about those ?

 Dusty

I doubt it, just a different sense of humour in play.
I thought it was quite ok but then I have a weird SOH anyway.
Happy New Year guys
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: JJ on December 31, 2020, 08:28:23 PM
Looks like a troll thread . How do we feel about those ?

 Dusty

Sorry...and pardon my ignorance...but what is a "troll thread?" :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:


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Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: oldbike54 on December 31, 2020, 08:43:06 PM
Sorry...and pardon my ignorance...but what is a "troll thread?" :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:


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 The salient point here is that after all these years on this board you don't know what a troll thread is .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: TOMB on December 31, 2020, 08:52:30 PM
My IQ is ---Good enough

TOMB
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Lannis on December 31, 2020, 08:56:03 PM
  I'm sure Lannis didn't get past 7th.

Oh, if only I were in 7th grade again ... and know what I know now ....  :cool:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 31, 2020, 08:57:42 PM
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] either for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process.

Both the noun and the verb forms of "troll" are associated with Internet discourse. However, the word has also been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment. For example, the mass media have used "troll" to mean "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families".[4][5] In addition, depictions of trolling have been included in popular fictional works, such as the HBO television program The Newsroom, in which a main character encounters harassing persons online and tries to infiltrate their circles by posting negative sexual comments.[6]

Hmmmm, who's posting a thread with a little "twisted Humor" and who's bringing the "discourse"? It can be a fine line. Happy New Year!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ   Always with the  negative waves  :thumb:


Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: travelingbyguzzi on December 31, 2020, 09:06:02 PM
The secret to my success is that I try to associate (ride with, drink with, discuss world events with, sleep with) with people who are smarter than me. Which is something more of us should do.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 31, 2020, 09:07:09 PM
The secret to my success is that I try to associate (ride with, drink with, discuss world events with, sleep with) with people who are smarter than me. Which is something more of us should do.

Nice one Bill  :thumb:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: JJ on December 31, 2020, 09:25:06 PM
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] either for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process.

Both the noun and the verb forms of "troll" are associated with Internet discourse. However, the word has also been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment. For example, the mass media have used "troll" to mean "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families".[4][5] In addition, depictions of trolling have been included in popular fictional works, such as the HBO television program The Newsroom, in which a main character encounters harassing persons online and tries to infiltrate their circles by posting negative sexual comments.[6]

Hmmmm, who's posting a thread with a little "twisted Humor" and who's bringing the "discourse"? It can be a fine line. Happy New Year!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ   Always with the  negative waves  :thumb:

OK...sadly, that's what I thought...but certainly was not my intent to upset or "inflame" anyone...so my apologies...and Happy New Year to all! :thumb: :cool: :boozing: :wink:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: fotoguzzi on December 31, 2020, 09:25:34 PM

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Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 31, 2020, 09:41:04 PM
Looks like a troll thread . How do we feel about those ?

 Dusty

Trolls?  Threads? or Troll Threads?

Ive always heard your IQ should equal your weight plus your age divided by two.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: SIR REAL ED on December 31, 2020, 09:44:51 PM
Sorry...and pardon my ignorance...but what is a "troll thread?" :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:


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I would assume it could be either a thread about trolls, a thread written by a troll, or a thread read by trolls.

Somebody with a high IQ should Google "troll thread."
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Tom H on January 01, 2021, 12:17:56 AM
Hey wait. I used to troll alot. Cought many a tuna on the troll. Usually with a green and yellow tuna feather!

Tom
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: moto-uno on January 01, 2021, 03:45:26 AM
 ^ In the Great White North , that would've been a worm and hopefully a rainbow trout  :boozing: . Peter
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: DougG on January 01, 2021, 07:10:15 AM
Hi all,                                                                                                                   1-1-21

I won't tell you how I know, but one absolute fact about IQ as recognized by psychometricians, is that it is wholly dependent upon how it is measured.  IQs are multivariant...they can include such things as memory, pattern recognition, creativity, sequencing, mechanical ability, even athleticism.  So, when someone intimates that he or she has a high or low IQ, it it is appropriate to ask..."By what measure?"   If you care, that is.

There's something else I know...I'm really looking forward to 2021.  Have a happy and blessed New Year!

Be well, stay well,
DougG

Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: cloudbase on January 01, 2021, 07:24:36 AM
It varies, depending on whether we're using metric or SAE units.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: larrys on January 01, 2021, 08:41:11 AM
There is intelligent and there is smart. Two very different things.
Larry
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Vagrant on January 01, 2021, 09:15:20 AM
I'd take common sense over IQ any day.
Too bad I was checking out the development of the seventh-grade girls and forgot to get into either line.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: DougG on January 01, 2021, 09:37:14 AM
Hi all,                                                                                            1-1-21

I've taken note of the posts that reference common sense.  I do not disagree with any of them.  I would like to add these two comments:
              1.  It has been my experience that uncommon sense leads to creativity.
              2.  I dearly hope that common sense and intelligence are not mutually exclusive... especially when it comes to the doctor who is doing my colonoscopy next
                   month.

Be well, stay well,
DougG
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 01, 2021, 09:51:42 AM
Hi all,                                                                                            1-1-21

I've taken note of the posts that reference common sense.  I do not disagree with any of them.  I would like to add these two comments:
              1.  It has been my experience that uncommon sense leads to creativity.
              2.  I dearly hope that common sense and intelligence are not mutually exclusive... especially when it comes to the doctor who is doing my colonoscopy next
                   month.

Be well, stay well,
DougG

I'd be more concerned about your anesthesiologist, the rest is just a crap shoot!

Last one I had, they called the next day to check on my well being. I asked if they could explain the big hickey on my neck.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: SIR REAL ED on January 01, 2021, 09:54:16 AM
Hi all,                                                                                            1-1-21

I've taken note of the posts that reference common sense.  I do not disagree with any of them.  I would like to add these two comments:
              1.  It has been my experience that uncommon sense leads to creativity.
              2.  I dearly hope that common sense and intelligence are not mutually exclusive... especially when it comes to the doctor who is doing my colonoscopy next
                   month.

Be well, stay well,
DougG

I doubt Dusty will let you post the video, but give it a shot.  He might be busy that day.....
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Joliet Jim on January 01, 2021, 09:58:54 AM
 :grin:
Often, when I read a comment that I question on WG, I wonder if the poster is slow, average, or sailing near the sun?  Typically, if I look at their profile, they don't list their IQ.  Is this because they think it might make them more susceptible to being scammed, or make it easier for them to be found on social media?

I only ask because sometimes a response from a WG member makes me wonder their IQ....... in other words, what might guide their response.

Some WG members post their IQ in their profile, most don't.

Just curious.

Mine is really hard to figure.

Yep I agree with that last sentence. Your IQ is really hard to figure out at times. After awhile i determined that something that small couldn't be measured.  :grin:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: wavedog on January 01, 2021, 10:03:51 AM
 When they were handing out brains I thought they said trains and hopped the first one out. Unfortunately it was a slow one.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: DougG on January 01, 2021, 10:07:35 AM
Hi Ed & john,                                                                                                           1-1-21

I have heard it said that humor is an obvious manifestation of high IQ.  Congratulations to you both! :wink:

Be well, stay well,
DougG                                                                         
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: bad Chad on January 01, 2021, 10:10:44 AM
Good one Joliet! :grin:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Griso8V on January 01, 2021, 10:17:18 AM
I don't remember my score back in grade school but I know I am no genius.  However, I have a good friend who is a PhD in Math & Biostatistics from Stanford who I consider pretty close to being a genius but he says he is only good at a small number of things, such as math.  He admits that he thinks that guys like me and others on this board that work on and restore cars & motorcycles are geniuses because it is beyond his understanding...
So I guess we all have our strengths and weaknesses.  Me: I have mostly weaknesses...
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Joliet Jim on January 01, 2021, 10:18:19 AM
Good one Joliet! :grin:

My pleasure, happy new year Chad.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 01, 2021, 10:21:45 AM
Hi Ed & john,                                                                                                           1-1-21

I have heard it said that humor is an obvious manifestation of high IQ.  Congratulations to you both! :wink:

Be well, stay well,
DougG                                                                         

Not many appreciate my kind of humor here. I get the impression it goes over their head at times, or maybe just too grumpy to crack a smile. Happy New year!
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Canuck750 on January 01, 2021, 10:53:01 AM
I have never known my IQ or for that matter anyone else’s, not interested. I am no genius, not by a long, long shot. From my limited experience of 40 years of work and 15 years of that managing the business partnership I retired from, hard work, determination etc trumped all other metrics. I always said to my staff that my partners and I could teach them all the technical skills to succeed in the field but only they could bring and develop passion. I saw a lot of very well educated people not succeed and many with average intelligence and credentials thrive. I believe that success, or whatever one wants to call achievements, is 80% hard work, often dull and tedious, 10% brains and 10% luck.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: John Croucher on January 01, 2021, 11:08:29 AM
I prefer a high credit score and high net worth over a high I.Q. Seems to allow someone to get the most out of life.

While I have spent a long day doing pre dementia-Alzheimers testing which included an I.Q. test, I did score very high and was told I am very normal for my age and personal experiences. 

I had the privilege to be mentored in the workplace by very smart people.  Learning to take advantage of the opportunities presented to me when meeting new people.  I now take the time to mentor others and encourage them that They are totally responsible for Their own education and success in life.  And then sharing in this success with those that come after them. 

I agree that a person can be very skilled and knowledgeable about a specific area, this does not make them smart in every sense of the word.   I have met some very smart people that could not put jumper cable between two cars or tie three different types of knots. 
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Ncdan on January 01, 2021, 02:08:42 PM
Hi all,                                                                                            1-1-21

I've taken note of the posts that reference common sense.  I do not disagree with any of them.  I would like to add these two comments:
              1.  It has been my experience that uncommon sense leads to creativity.
              2.  I dearly hope that common sense and intelligence are not mutually exclusive... especially when it comes to the doctor who is doing my colonoscopy next
                   month.

Be well, stay well,
DougG
Hey Doug, I heard your doctor is not the best one in the field but he’s “up there”
Lol, I crack me up sometimes 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Huzo on January 01, 2021, 02:10:34 PM
They say on a normal day, Einstein needed a road map to get out of a phone booth...but on the other hand, he was brilliant beyond most people's comprehension... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:

They also say he commonly wore socks of different colors..
He had another pair the same at home... :popcorn:
BTW..
I don’t actually know my IQ..
Without googling it, do you know what IQ means..?
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: SIR REAL ED on January 01, 2021, 02:13:18 PM
He had another pair the same at home... :popcorn:
BTW..
I don’t actually know my IQ..
Without googling it, do you know what IQ means..?

After you find out your IQ Huzo, please post it.  Make sure you include the units millimeters, kilograms, newtons, etc.  :wink:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Huzo on January 01, 2021, 02:46:11 PM
Well..
I just took the on line IQ test. I completed it on time and was told that I scored above 94% of respondents in the visual perception category, so they got my attention and massaged my ego enough to get my interest.
But unlike a good massage, there was no “happy ending..”
I was so enamoured with the bullshit that they’d fed me thus far, I stupidly almost gave them $19 to get the final result.
So to me, that’s proof that I become blinded when people tell me what I want to hear and I am a self congratulating, self promoting, narcissistic, loudmouth son of a bitch, with an inferiority complex...(among other things..)
100% correct...(cruel but fair... :thumb:)
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: DougG on January 01, 2021, 02:47:10 PM
Quote
From NcDan...Hey Doug, I heard your doctor is not the best one in the field but he’s “up there”
Lol, I crack me up sometimes 😂😂😂😂



Hmmm...Why am I not feeling really comfy about my appointment next month? :undecided:

Be well, stay well,
DougG

P.S.  Please guys, let's not turn this into a colonoscopy thread...that would be a real PITA.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Ncdan on January 01, 2021, 02:51:14 PM


Hmmm...Why am I not feeling really comfy about my appointment next month? :undecided:

Be well, stay well,
DougG

P.S.  Please guys, let's not turn this into a colonoscopy thread...that would be a real PITA.
Now Dat Dar is just plum funny😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Huzo on January 01, 2021, 02:52:48 PM


Hmmm...Why am I not feeling really comfy about my appointment next month? :undecided:

Be well, stay well,
DougG

P.S.  Please guys, let's not turn this into a colonoscopy thread...that would be a real PITA.
Ask him to use two fingers instead of one.
If he asks “what for..”
Tell him you want a second opinion.
If he says “don’t worry I’m very skilled, I’ll make a decent fist of it..”
Marry him... :thumb: :wink:
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: SIR REAL ED on January 01, 2021, 03:07:28 PM
Ask him to use two fingers instead of one.
If he asks “what for..”
Tell him you want a second opinion.
If he says “don’t worry I’m very skilled, I’ll make a decent fist of it..”
Marry him... :thumb: :wink:

Ask him if he minds taking off his watch first......
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Huzo on January 01, 2021, 03:15:46 PM
Ask him if he minds taking off his watch first......
My bloke has a “digital” one.
He claims he doesn’t use an analog one, patients balk at the thought of having two hands in there..
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: DougG on January 01, 2021, 03:20:18 PM
STOPP!!!  PLEEEASE  STOPP!!!

You guys are killin' me! :cry:

Be well, stay well,
DougG
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: stormshearon on January 01, 2021, 04:20:32 PM
I thought, based on current SJW standards, measuring IQ was 'white' and 'racist'? If the rules keep changing, it is difficult for some of us to keep up. Geez.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Huzo on January 01, 2021, 04:53:59 PM
My bloke has a “digital” one.
He claims he doesn’t use an analog one, patients balk at the thought of having two hands in there..
I’d personally prefer the ANALog one.
Sounds like it’s purpose built.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: pete mcgee on January 01, 2021, 05:14:48 PM
I once met a boffin who was probably the number 1 bloke in thermodybamics in Australia at the time, he was working out the cooling requirements for an Orion P3 electronic update our airforce was doing.
Unkept hair, mismatched socks, bow tie with a short sleeved shirt.
I got taking to his off sider, normal looking bloke and asked him whos the guy with the bow tie?
Answer, the god of thermodynamics, and what do you do I asked, keep him alive and where he needs to be when he needs to be there was the answer.
Me Im only smart enough to work on and fix aircraft, not design them, but I have asked some design engineers WTF were you thinking when you came up with ........
He obviously never had to fix it at 2am in the pissing down rain.
So theres high IQ and common sense. Occasionally mutually exclusive concepts.
Me Ill just say im pragmatic
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: guzzisteve on January 01, 2021, 06:03:16 PM
STOPP!!!  PLEEEASE  STOPP!!!

You guys are killin' me! :cry:

Be well, stay well,
DougG
What the Hell? Bend over for your IQ test-------------------------------------Yea, Chads Thread!!!
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: Moto Vita on January 01, 2021, 06:05:28 PM

Without googling it, do you know what IQ means..?

 I tried to Google it but i forgot how to spell it.
Title: Re: Doesn't bother me to post my IQ
Post by: cloudbase on January 01, 2021, 07:04:17 PM
I believe that success, or whatever one wants to call achievements, is 80% hard work, often dull and tedious, 10% brains and 10% luck.

Success is 90% mental.  The other half is physical.
(Sorry, Yogi.)