Wildguzzi.com

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ohiorider on January 06, 2021, 09:02:39 AM

Title: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: ohiorider on January 06, 2021, 09:02:39 AM
This has potential!  Near beginning of video (25 seconds in.)  Now to watch some more of the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6o14_CvQ4
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: roadventure on January 06, 2021, 09:16:11 AM
Is anyone watching (Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, BMW, etc....)?   :thumb:
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Motormike on January 06, 2021, 09:46:02 AM
You haven't lived until you've tried to put a K1600b on it's center stand.  You'll need a truss afterwards.
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: sdcr on January 06, 2021, 10:14:52 AM
Couple of observations...

Would it not indicate a “ leak” somewhere, if he had to add fluid to the clutch slave?

I do like the center stand ratchet system, seems like a lot of bikes could use that.

If you’ve ever ridden a motorcycle on to a ferry, while it is raining, you have to respect that he did not drop that long, heavy bike.

Leather riding pants are required, due to the exhaust manifold.
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Perazzimx14 on January 06, 2021, 10:43:32 AM
You'd know where I'd been by the trail of wrenches I forgot and left behind.

Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Ncdan on January 06, 2021, 11:23:42 AM
To stay on track of the subject of the center stand, I can sympathize. I simply cannot get my CB1000c on the center stand! I know how the technique is executed, I guess I just don’t have enough arse to accomplish the task🤔😂
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Motormike on January 06, 2021, 11:37:09 AM
On the K1600 (750 lbs) I have to place the rear tire on a board to have any chance at all of getting it up on the stand. There's a youtube video of some guy putting a BMW K1600b on it's center stand barefoot!  Of course, the fact that he looks to weigh almost as much as the bike probabley helps.
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: ohiorider on January 06, 2021, 11:42:57 AM
One of the best unintentional things I did for my 2016 Bonneville T120 (actually for me.) Replacing the OEM shocks with a set of Ikons I'd initially purchased for the CB1100 Honda.  Before trading the Honda, I reinstalled the OEM shocks, and stored the Ikons, with the intention of selling them to another CB1100 owner.

I also contacted Roger at Ikon USA, and asked if the Ikons could be used on the T120.  His answer, "yes," if you remove a couple of the mounting bushings.  And advised me the Ikons were about 3/4" longer than the Triumph OEM shocks.

Best thing #1:  I'd ordered the Ikons with lighter springs for the CB1100, and now the Bonnie takes our frost heaved roads in stride.
Best thing #2:  The Ikons being longer, the bike now pops up on the centerstand with little effort

The longer shocks cause a minor inconvenience.  Once on the stand, the rear tire is still in contact with the ground.  However, I've found I can slip a 1/2" shim under either right or left stand leg, and the tire now clears the ground, making it easy to rotate the wheel for chain lubing and periodically cleaning the wheel.

Bob
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: LowRyter on January 06, 2021, 04:04:40 PM
You haven't lived until you've tried to put a K1600b on it's center stand.  You'll need a truss afterwards.

My brother and his F-I-L tried to put his 1600 Exclusive on the centerstand.  Neither guy had ever put a bike on a centerstand and he said they nearly died until they'd done it.   

When he told me that I said it's a matter of balance.   We pushed the bike level on the stand and he got a feel for it. 
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Canuck750 on January 06, 2021, 05:37:26 PM
You haven't lived until you've tried to put a K1600b on it's center stand.  You'll need a truss afterwards.

I have a K1600 GTL, I find it no harder to get on the center stand than any other bike I have, most of which way a little more than half that of the BMW. I find it comes down to timing the pressing the foot tab while lifting the bike up and jerking forward in one motion. I am not a big guy and pretty weak to boot :laugh:
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on January 06, 2021, 06:01:15 PM
I found that I need to remove the left pannier on my Stelvio. That allows me to stand closer to the bike and makes getting it on the center stand fairly easy. I tried it once with the pannier in place and damn near blew a disc.
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: twowheeladdict on January 06, 2021, 09:40:26 PM
Is anyone watching (Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, BMW, etc....)?   :thumb:

The Kawasaki Voyager XII has a 2 part center stand that is quite easy to deploy. 
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Stretch on January 07, 2021, 07:46:11 AM
Kinda like this.....   :grin:

https://www.prices4antiques.com/Wagon-Accessory-Jack-Conestoga-Hand-Crank-Ratchet-1815-D9689449.html

                                                             -Stretch

Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Huzo on January 07, 2021, 08:30:30 AM
I have been known to click the bike into gear and ride it onto a small piece of 1” wood..
Thing just falls onto the stand.
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: guzziart on January 07, 2021, 03:28:43 PM
On the K1600 (750 lbs) I have to place the rear tire on a board to have any chance at all of getting it up on the stand. There's a youtube video of some guy putting a BMW K1600b on it's center stand barefoot!  Of course, the fact that he looks to weigh almost as much as the bike probabley helps.

These days I use the board method too.  For decades I would just use brute force to hoist my bikes (& Wings) up on the center stand, then I began to run the rear suspension up as far as it would go, it made the hoisting task easier.  In recent years I developed a knee problem and instituted the 1x6 board under the rear wheel method...what a knee saver.  The more room you can put between ground and center stand translates into an easier lift effort. 

However, I like the ratchet center stand system, great idea but my luck, the bike would fall over on the right side in the process.

I though early 2000's BMW 1200LT's have a power center stand??!!

Oh well, don't drop a nut into your sock!
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: ohiorider on January 07, 2021, 05:15:11 PM


I though early 2000's BMW 1200LT's have a power center stand??!!

Oh well, don't drop a nut into your sock!
Hey, Art ...... I don't know if BMW has discontinued the power center stand, but you're right ..... some of the older K1200LT had a power center stand.

Happy new Year!

Bob
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: QuattroValvole on January 07, 2021, 08:14:55 PM

How's it's done with a post war Indian Chief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWEjyMGq8T8
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Ryan on January 07, 2021, 09:28:51 PM
The Stelvio is easy, but I am not a small guy. The key is not to try to pull the bike o to the stand. Grab the rail, and hold your body in place while you push down on the stand. Your legs are incredibly strong pushing in that direction. Yes, I have done it barefoot, but I prefer at least a flip flop. The stand will pull the bike backwards, so the is no need to " pull the bike backwards" on to the stand.
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Calidavid on January 08, 2021, 06:23:12 AM
On a ferry from France to the UK nearly a year ago I was instructed to put the Cali on its centre stand, for the first time ever. Getting it off the stand on a wet steel deck put my back out for months. Never again!
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: tris on January 08, 2021, 07:27:05 AM
On a ferry from France to the UK nearly a year ago I was instructed to put the Cali on its centre stand, for the first time ever. Getting it off the stand on a wet steel deck put my back out for months. Never again!

When I took my Cali on the Channel Ferry I nosed it up to a rail, deployed the side stand and left it in gear

I was tempted to leave it at that but put a strap on for luck.

Much more stable IMO than a centre stand as you have 3 points in contact with the deck
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Johncolleary on January 08, 2021, 07:39:21 AM
The Kawasaki Voyager XII has a 2 part center stand that is quite easy to deploy.


I have the same issue.  I can get it on the stand with the bag off.  Screwed up my back once trying to do it with the bag on. 
Title: Re: How Allen Millyard gets heavy bike onto centerstand
Post by: Motormike on January 08, 2021, 09:04:05 AM
Just as interesting, the technique for taking a bike off the center stand.  I'd never given it much thought.  On lighter bikes, I'd just stand next to it, roll it forward and grab the front brake.  On heavier bikes, I'd usually straddle the bike and rock it off the center stand and grab the brake.  Then I attended the BMW riders school in Spartanburg a couple of years ago.  They teach a slightly different method which I have adopted for any bike.  When the bike is on the center stand, put it in gear.  Then stand next to it and push it off the stand, being in gear, it will stop as soon as the rear tire is on the ground.  Works slick, especially with tall or heavy bikes that might "get away" from you.  I'l always amazed at how the simplest ideas or small changes in technique have never occurred to me in almost 50 years of riding.  Mustn't  dwell on it too much...I'd merely get depressed at my thick-headedness.  :sad: