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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: SED on January 09, 2021, 11:37:12 AM
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WG people often own and ride really interesting old bikes. Canuck 750 is restoring a 1947 Airone and has rebuilt a Cardellino, JJ posted a cool NSU. DRSDave mentioned a Terot! (did I spell that right?) I've only seen one Terot, bolted to a sidecar ridden by an elderly couple. Others have old bikes in their signatures. And then there was the discussion about when motorbikes got reliable...
We should have a picture thread for really old bikes. Have an old one you'd like to share?
My oldest bike is 1937 GTV - 84 years in February! It has some really old engineering, but it is "unit" construction (engine and gearbox in the same crankcase). Strangely it is only the second "unit" bike I've owned.
(https://i.ibb.co/dbMX8xW/20201218-163303.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dbMX8xW)
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One day I would love to own and restore an old bike (meaning 1940's or older) Currently my oldest bike is a 1976 Convert.
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I really enjoy seeing the old (50 and down) bikes in person or photos. My favorite is the old HD bikes with the bicycle type saddle and suicidal shift. We have a museum in Ashboro NC, free to the public. Cliffrod here can vouch for their cheeseburgers which the restaurant there serves 👍
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Looking through my photo files, this is the oldest two-wheeled vehicle I have ever owned / ridden...
1959 Cushman Eagle - - 8HP, foot-clutch, tank-shift, 2-speed (Lo and Hi), 30-35mph top speed, (maybe...downhill, in a tail wind with my fat ass on it!!) :laugh: :grin: :wink:
(https://i.ibb.co/G2fTdWr/59-Cushman-Eagle.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G2fTdWr)
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This will be a fun thread...
I don't have any old exotica either but I do have this '69-ish Dalesman Trials. These were built in England from 1969 though 1974 as far as I can discover about them. Reynolds chromoly frames, equipped with Sachs or Puch engines in a couple of different sizes, hand made aluminum tanks.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/LtgPCb.jpg)
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I really enjoy seeing the old (50 and down) bikes in person or photos. My favorite is the old HD bikes with the bicycle type saddle and suicidal shift. We have a museum in Ashboro NC, free to the public. Cliffrod here can vouch for their cheeseburgers which the restaurant there serves 👍
Well, here is a 1916 Indian ("replica") seen in a window this week in Jerome, AZ...
(https://i.ibb.co/16KjjT2/IMG-2486.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16KjjT2)
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Best I can do is these old beaters.
(https://i.ibb.co/BwYBszL/sherpax.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BwYBszL)
'72 Sherpa
(https://i.ibb.co/WVg5Pb4/LMIII-s-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WVg5Pb4)
(https://i.ibb.co/F4rj3c5/cx100-001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F4rj3c5)
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My oldest is this 1936 HD VLH. I have had it for about 10 years. It received an amateur restoration about 30 years ago. It is slated for a full restoration after I finish my 1980 T3 California and 1955 Triumph T110.
It is a cool bike and great fun with the sidecar.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qt5RR3s9/IMG-2642.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBb7dXW4)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJjLbMCr/36VL.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ygLfXnR9)
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Now THAT is one "way cool" vintage American V-twin!! Love the Art Deco color combination also!! :thumb: :thumb: :cool: :boozing: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
(https://i.ibb.co/DpxdQys/Screen-Shot-2021-01-09-at-3-23-51-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/DpxdQys)
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Here's my oldest. 1949 Ariel VB600. 600cc flathead. Can't ride it without a smile on your face.
TDF
(https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/uploads/14530/326249_154598011293130_6993597_o.jpg)
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Lots of older ones in my garage.
Oldest Guzzi is the 1949 Astore
(https://i.ibb.co/CMbJx2y/4106-50.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMbJx2y)
Oldest is my 1937 Indian Chief. Started as a pile of parts, was never going to be restored to original so it became a bobber.
(https://i.ibb.co/rdPPDzz/60.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rdPPDzz)
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Great pictures and great information! Learning a lot. That 2-tone Harley is a looker!
Great VB. Love Ariel singles. Here's mine on the way to California some years back
(https://i.ibb.co/j8RLqq3/032-Humbug-South.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j8RLqq3)
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Some lovely machines there.
My oldest bike turned 60 last year -- a 1960 Heinkel Tourist 103A1 scooter. 175cc ohv 4-stroke. (Picture below.)
I also have a 1962 Maico Maicoletta scooter, 275cc 2-stroke; and a 1964 Vespa GS160 scooter, 160cc 2-stroke.
My mom has two old cars that my dad had bought -- a 1930 Packard sedan, and a 1929 Reo Flying Cloud sedan.
I want to keep the Reo, mainly because it's mostly original, and we're the second owner.
PhilB
(https://i.ibb.co/HNrnQfG/Me-and-my-Heinkel.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HNrnQfG)
(https://i.ibb.co/pwZQKdD/Tucked-For-Winter.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pwZQKdD)
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Love the big 4-stroke scooters - they look so cool. A friend has a Heinkle but never seen it run...
Most think of the Norge as a "new" -ish bike, but the name goes back to 1927. This "history" was just published in an Italian group (machine translated). Can't confirm any of it and there were no citations, but the info about personalities suggests Carlo and Naco were probably not easy to work for!
It all started with the engineer Giuseppe Guzzi, known as ′′ Naco ", older brother of the best-known Carlo (the founder of Moto Guzzi) and true technical supervisor of the house of Mandello del Lario. Giuseppe Guzzi was described as a grumpy at the limits of misanthropy, who suffered enormously from the heat in any season, so much as to regularly work on the technigraphy in a tank top and underwear. Maybe that's why he didn't like receiving visitors: they distracted him from his calculations and, above all, forced him to cover himself. During the summer months he made long trips to Austria, Germany or France, with the dual aim of testing his achievements and finding some cooling.
In 1927 Naco built the prototype of the GT 500 model, first Moto Guzzi with an elastic frame and, in honor of the Italian airship that the previous year allowed Umberto Nobile and Roald Amundsen's mission to fly over the North Pole, the new motorcycle is immediately renamed Norge. It was a promotional move that tried to ride the enthusiasm of the moment, but it sparked a choir of protests from competing motorcycle houses, who accused Moto Guzzi of unfairly taking advantage of the popularity of that company. The diatribe became a war with press releases that ended up burning the already hot summer of 1928, causing Carlo Guzzi to worry, who feared a huge ′′ image damage ′′ for the company. Regardless of the ongoing controversy, his brother Giuseppe was quietly preparing for his usual travelling holidays. But it was only appearance, he was actually planning another one of his findings: Norge fed up, he set off for his usual summer trip, which this time was over kilometers and took him to the North Cape. Reaching the Arctic Circle, on the roads and with the motorcycles of the time, was an incredible feat, and the news camped in newspapers across Europe, calling thousands of curious people on the way back. As soon as he returned to Mandello, exhausted more by the crowd baths than by the trip, Naco returned to the technigraphy, leaving his brother the task of juggling interviews, awards and convention. Legend has it that Carlo Guzzi, a man with little compliments, has entered his brother's office and, without even mentioning the accomplishment, discussed with him for a couple of hours about the changes to the suspension. But this time, because of the heatwave, even the austere Carlo put himself in a tank top and underwear; a singular and mute tribute that, between the two grumps, was worth a thousand praise. It was so that Moto Guzzi could fully use the name Norge, and North Cape became an important motorcycle goal.
Huzo should see this! :grin:
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I have a 1953 Galletto that I imported from the UK 4 years ago. It was a partial restoration and is pretty clean (picture is not my Galletto). I need to get this going. It had a small oil leak. I want to pull the engine and have Charlie rebuild it.... if he's still ok with doing the rebuild. :laugh: It's a 175. MG produced mostly 160 and 192cc versions. If I can get it sorted out I may try the Scooter Cannonball.
(https://i.ibb.co/4dpQj6m/guzzi-galletto-175-9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4dpQj6m)
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So many beautiful machines, :thumb: :drool:
Dave if you could photoshop that tree out of the background, that simply stunning shot of that rig is mag cover material, just classic :bow:
The one that gets me jonesin though is John's Bultaco; :thumb:
I always wanted one, the brand has a lot of interesting history, very unique cachet, never to be made again, in it's time for a few years it was THE BEST in it's class. I've seen a few go by recently that appeared in good shape at what I thought seemed reasonable prices, but when I researched them, a few people commented, if you want to do anything else besides work and ride your Sherpa 350, this isn't the bike for you,lol.
A beginning trials rider tends to fall over a lot, I don't like doing that either,lol :laugh:
This post is better than a day out at the museum.
:popcorn: :bike-037: :popcorn:
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Here is mine: a 1940 Indian 640-B Canadian Army bike. I bought it as an incomplete pile of an old website, George's Worldwide Antique American Motorcycle Trader. I bought it in a package with a nice 1925 Henderson Deluxe project.
They were in a little town north of Prince Albert, Saskatchewan and I had them shipped to my office.
I sold the Henderson years ago but finally got the Indian up and running. Now I'm working on a '41 Indian 841.
(https://i.ibb.co/TTC3RMw/21740645-10156613158293502-5311809577075923596-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TTC3RMw)
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Great thread and some lovely bikes.
I do have a modern Guzzi (V85TT), but it's generally last choice and only really gets used for touring holidays. The old bikes are just so much more interesting and fun to ride. Here's my oldies, which pretty much covers everything I need.
1973 V7 Sport, 2nd production series
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4487/23556361498_853c942e4a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BTAvzL)DSC_3394 (https://flic.kr/p/BTAvzL) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
1955 Falcone Sport - definitely my favourite
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50824773391_7b637d46a9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2krdfqp)DSC_0437 (https://flic.kr/p/2krdfqp) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
1955 Moto Parilla 175 Turismo Special. Lockdown project just completed. Idea is to do the Moto Giro d'Italia on it, but man a 175cc is hard work to ride!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50616851351_b2db45a5e1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k7QArD)20200901_193608 (https://flic.kr/p/2k7QArD) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
1979 T3 Cali. Stupidly I sold it to buy the V85, which I regret.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4482/37827292291_4d1e29fa1b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZCEL7F)DSC_3183 (https://flic.kr/p/ZCEL7F) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
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1960 Panther M120 (650)
(https://i.ibb.co/563dkzQ/DSCN8454.jpg) (https://ibb.co/563dkzQ)
Still working on some crankcase pressure issues (running a shovelhead piston), but should soon be up for some 'Nick-style' travels.
If you haven't already, come for a ride:
https://youtu.be/rqITb4SiNHs (https://youtu.be/rqITb4SiNHs) (long)
https://youtu.be/d33ZDVN4YCE (https://youtu.be/d33ZDVN4YCE) (short)
Nick
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Great thread and some lovely bikes.
I do have a modern Guzzi (V85TT), but it's generally last choice and only really gets used for touring holidays. The old bikes are just so much more interesting and fun to ride. Here's my oldies, which pretty much covers everything I need.
1973 V7 Sport, 2nd production series
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4487/23556361498_853c942e4a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BTAvzL)DSC_3394 (https://flic.kr/p/BTAvzL) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
1955 Falcone Sport - definitely my favourite
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50824773391_7b637d46a9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2krdfqp)DSC_0437 (https://flic.kr/p/2krdfqp) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
1955 Moto Parilla 175 Turismo Special. Lockdown project just completed. Idea is to do the Moto Giro d'Italia on it, but man a 175cc is hard work to ride!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50616851351_b2db45a5e1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k7QArD)20200901_193608 (https://flic.kr/p/2k7QArD) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
1979 T3 Cali. Stupidly I sold it to buy the V85, which I regret.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4482/37827292291_4d1e29fa1b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZCEL7F)DSC_3183 (https://flic.kr/p/ZCEL7F) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
Not to pour salt in your wound, but that T3 California was amazing! The rest aren't bad either. Wonderful shot of the V7 Sport!!
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Derek, where was this picture taken? Perfect!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/8CtwHz61/Screenshot-2021-01-11-DSC-3394.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.ibb.co/Hzdr4V6/2013-04-26-17-55-52.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Hzdr4V6)
My 1932 Sport 15. Picture taken on the way home after purchasing it. I've replaced a few bits that were required but it still has a lot of patina
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Great looking vintage motorcycle some of you guys own! :thumb:
But what do they have to do with a thread about the moderator being over 60? :huh:
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Dave,
That photo is in my local area The Cotswolds, a backwater of old England!
Below picture is in the splendidly named village Lower Slaughter.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7814/40448195213_f384771e81_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24Cgzf6)DSC_3385 (https://flic.kr/p/24Cgzf6) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
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Now THAT Parilla 175 is a very rare, vintage Italian bike indeed...Lovely bike and photo, by the way!! :thumb: :cool: :smiley:
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(https://i.ibb.co/0FXccRC/20190918-143557.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0FXccRC)
My oldest, 56, Harley KHK
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(https://i.ibb.co/0FXccRC/20190918-143557.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0FXccRC)
My oldest, 56, Harley KHK
:thumb: :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing: Yes...long before the legendary Sportster, there was the KHK :thumb: :cool:
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(https://i.ibb.co/0FXccRC/20190918-143557.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0FXccRC)
My oldest, 56, Harley KHK
2 KHK owners on this forum. How can that be!?
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zKQBcHt/khk-014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJjRsMFD)
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2 KHK owners on this forum. How can that be!?
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zKQBcHt/khk-014.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HJjRsMFD)
Not that many of us out there, they didn't make that many.
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I was loving the old bike pictures, but then it just kinda faded. Maybe it just needs a kick start.
Here's my 1939 Ariel bitsa built from left over parts.
(https://i.ibb.co/47VHJkK/IMG-3496.jpg) (https://ibb.co/47VHJkK)
And here's how you ride it:
https://youtu.be/MgcmyNR-BxY (https://youtu.be/MgcmyNR-BxY)
Post your favorite old bikes! :bike-037:
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Great photos Glawster.
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Yes...and just another vintage classic to add to the WANT LIST!! :thumb: :cool: :boozing: :wink: :smiley: :thumb: :cool:
(https://i.ibb.co/MN6X6Kn/Screen-Shot-2021-01-22-at-7-46-48-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/MN6X6Kn)
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(https://i.ibb.co/0rsT9qn/D96-FE4-BB-777-B-486-B-9-E19-BCB5-D4-E62996.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0rsT9qn)
(https://i.ibb.co/VthNgGS/CCCCAAE2-BEF1-473-A-9984-5331-E4-A139-FA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VthNgGS)
(https://i.ibb.co/mNb86mN/568-E2-BA8-81-C6-4-CF3-AFB3-388576-FF8-D9-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mNb86mN)
Here’s one of my favorite guzzi’s an early lodola I restored, the coolest moped a parilla and the 1934 Terrot 350. The terrot is a blast to ride !!
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that Terot is cool! Huge filler cap? Clincher rims?
Beautiful work on the Ladola.
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Yes, huge filler cap. Brass tank
Non clincher rims
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(https://i.ibb.co/FWQXf3h/0-BC45490-CC08-4515-874-D-90-F539-B0-A193.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FWQXf3h)
the muffler in the photo was not correct when I got the bike. I’ve since replaced it with the correct, cast aluminum one. VERY Art Deco, very cool
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I like that Terrot as well.... :cool: :boozing: :thumb: :smiley: "Le French!!" I'll bet it's FUN to ride also! :thumb:
(https://i.ibb.co/n8xBX9R/Screen-Shot-2021-01-23-at-9-33-11-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/n8xBX9R)
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This Ariel is more than 60 years old, would make a great - project, come TLC required
(https://i.postimg.cc/43WjGXq3/s-l1600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1VBtGX0)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1938-Other-Makes/254842023429?hash=item3b55c4ae05:g:~rcAAOSw6MBgC0nP
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I like that Terrot as well.... :cool: :boozing: :thumb: :smiley: "Le French!!" I'll bet it's FUN to ride also! :thumb:
(https://i.ibb.co/n8xBX9R/Screen-Shot-2021-01-23-at-9-33-11-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/n8xBX9R)
South of Paris I came across a fabulous private gear head museum, over 200 bikes displayed inside a Chateau, along with jet fighter aircraft, fire engines, agricultural equipment and race cars as well.
Plenty of Terrots on display including some very early flat tankers
(https://i.postimg.cc/3rFmxW99/00-C4-F4-DC-A231-4-C4-A-B918-9095948-B494-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z00CfbGy)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3x4kmwjs/1414-F4-E7-C769-471-D-B466-0-CBF95-DBE411.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87GkVN04)
Peugot as well
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydt1VmtW/C0-D3803-A-70-DC-4749-89-B0-265-FA3342500.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkRP6yqK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yxdd4NF/44570-D58-195-C-47-F0-A458-E946-B7-A26-CB6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34z7fTGg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1X7zNx8R/A72-BD42-C-3-FD2-4-F06-861-F-3-CBEB24-DC48-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BPD3dV5R)
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Love the big 4-stroke scooters - they look so cool. A friend has a Heinkle but never seen it run...
Most think of the Norge as a "new" -ish bike, but the name goes back to 1927. This "history" was just published in an Italian group (machine translated). Can't confirm any of it and there were no citations, but the info about personalities suggests Carlo and Naco were probably not easy to work for!
It all started with the engineer Giuseppe Guzzi, known as ′′ Naco ", older brother of the best-known Carlo (the founder of Moto Guzzi) and true technical supervisor of the house of Mandello del Lario. Giuseppe Guzzi was described as a grumpy at the limits of misanthropy, who suffered enormously from the heat in any season, so much as to regularly work on the technigraphy in a tank top and underwear. Maybe that's why he didn't like receiving visitors: they distracted him from his calculations and, above all, forced him to cover himself. During the summer months he made long trips to Austria, Germany or France, with the dual aim of testing his achievements and finding some cooling.
In 1927 Naco built the prototype of the GT 500 model, first Moto Guzzi with an elastic frame and, in honor of the Italian airship that the previous year allowed Umberto Nobile and Roald Amundsen's mission to fly over the North Pole, the new motorcycle is immediately renamed Norge. It was a promotional move that tried to ride the enthusiasm of the moment, but it sparked a choir of protests from competing motorcycle houses, who accused Moto Guzzi of unfairly taking advantage of the popularity of that company. The diatribe became a war with press releases that ended up burning the already hot summer of 1928, causing Carlo Guzzi to worry, who feared a huge ′′ image damage ′′ for the company. Regardless of the ongoing controversy, his brother Giuseppe was quietly preparing for his usual travelling holidays. But it was only appearance, he was actually planning another one of his findings: Norge fed up, he set off for his usual summer trip, which this time was over kilometers and took him to the North Cape. Reaching the Arctic Circle, on the roads and with the motorcycles of the time, was an incredible feat, and the news camped in newspapers across Europe, calling thousands of curious people on the way back. As soon as he returned to Mandello, exhausted more by the crowd baths than by the trip, Naco returned to the technigraphy, leaving his brother the task of juggling interviews, awards and convention. Legend has it that Carlo Guzzi, a man with little compliments, has entered his brother's office and, without even mentioning the accomplishment, discussed with him for a couple of hours about the changes to the suspension. But this time, because of the heatwave, even the austere Carlo put himself in a tank top and underwear; a singular and mute tribute that, between the two grumps, was worth a thousand praise. It was so that Moto Guzzi could fully use the name Norge, and North Cape became an important motorcycle goal.
Huzo should see this! :grin:
Yes.
A good read. It’s not just the distance that begins to weigh on you after a while, but the realisation that a mechanical breakdown is going to be a pretty difficult thing to deal with logistically.
The countryside is raw and barren and the coastline begins to close in on both sides. The last 20 km just seems to be going up and up and.....Until you reach THAT cliff...!
(https://i.ibb.co/wQFpF4v/7-FEDA83-C-BCA3-4239-81-A3-1-AA1-A9-FBA73-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wQFpF4v)
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Yes.
A good read. It’s not just the distance that begins to weigh on you after a while, but the realisation that a mechanical breakdown is going to be a pretty difficult thing to deal with logistically.
The countryside is raw and barren and the coastline begins to close in on both sides. The last 20 km just seems to be going up and up and.....Until you reach THAT cliff...!
(https://i.ibb.co/wQFpF4v/7-FEDA83-C-BCA3-4239-81-A3-1-AA1-A9-FBA73-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wQFpF4v)
I didn't realize the road to North Cape was paved, how they keep that asphalt maintained is an engineering marvel and at 71.17 degrees North it is I believe the farthest north all weather road in the world. AFAIK Prudhoe Bay Alaska is second at 70.22 degrees north and Tuktoyuktuk Canada is third at 69.44 degrees. The road to Tuktoyuktuk is over 900 km of gravel, 1st settlement / gas station is 380 km from the end of pavement, two more along the way, Fort Simpson and Inuvik and nothing in between but forest, muskeg and tundra. The road has gotten quite popular in the brief two months of summer but years ago I came across only two vehicles in 24 hours. I have dipped my front tire into the Arctic ocean and don't particularly feel inclined to do it again but..... North Cape looks interesting.
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South of Paris I came across a fabulous private gear head museum, over 200 bikes displayed inside a Chateau, along with jet fighter aircraft, fire engines, agricultural equipment and race cars as well.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yxdd4NF/44570-D58-195-C-47-F0-A458-E946-B7-A26-CB6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34z7fTGg)
Love the Terrot silencer! How do you find one of those??? Brass tank!!!
Is that Louis Climent bike a OHC V-twin? That is way cool. But probably a rattle trap and a pain to ride.
Love the Ariel too.