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Title: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on January 27, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
I’ve started the process of listing two bikes on Bring a Trailer, which I’ve never done before.  Ebay has been a good resource, but is sort of one or two steps up from Craigslist, and is pretty expensive.  After acceptance on BaT you have to pay a $99 fee, then they spend a few weeks getting back to you and developing the listings.  I’m through the payment phase for my 1980 v50ii and 1961 Matchless 500:

(https://i.ibb.co/hMQ59Jn/D4-EA10-BF-BB10-49-BA-816-B-493-E556-C231-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hMQ59Jn)

(https://i.ibb.co/NjPn0dP/BF8-B178-A-C09-B-4865-B949-7-ABB7827-DFEB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NjPn0dP)


I spent tonight relocating and wiring the front turn signals on the MG to a new correct oem bracket.  I thought I was going to keep this bike longer, but I saw a video of me riding it and I looked like a bear on a tricycle.  The bike should be ridden by someone half my size. I taught my daughter to ride on it but she does not want to ride on the road, which relieves me a little.

I’m rolling the dice and listing both no reserve, so it could be a disaster - hopefully not. Funds will go to my G5 and BMW R100S projects.  I’m into the bikes for about 3k for the v50 and 9k for the Matchless not counting my labor, which is not insignificant.  If I break even I’ll be pretty happy as it will open up some garage space and replenish the bike account.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 27, 2021, 08:54:42 PM
I'll be interested to see how it goes for you. If it goes well, I may sell a bike on there myself, in the future.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on January 27, 2021, 09:11:43 PM
I’ll keep everyone posted Charlie.  I’m a little slow to change with the times, but it seems as if Craigslist and eBay are old news. I seem to buy project bikes solely locally through word of mouth.  I probably wouldn’t sell a custom build on BaT.  I’m interested to see what happens.  I read through all the rules and it appears to be trying very hard to maintain strict integrity in the process.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: cliffrod on January 27, 2021, 09:12:52 PM
Wow,, that Matchless is a gorgeous bike.  I was looking at another G80 on Craigslist about an hour ago. 

Good luck with the sale and process.  For all the BaT auctions posted here, it will be good to have legit btdt knowledge of the process.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: oldbike54 on January 27, 2021, 09:18:33 PM
 Ebay has changed their process recently , no more pay pal , upped their fees . BaT will step into some of the void , and am guessing another online site will come along before long .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: cliffrod on January 27, 2021, 09:23:59 PM
I understand total eBay fees are now up to approx 38% of sale price.  Is that true?  I've never sold on eBay
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on January 27, 2021, 09:35:52 PM
Wow,, that Matchless is a gorgeous bike.  I was looking at another G80 on Craigslist about an hour ago. 

Good luck with the sale and process.  For all the BaT auctions posted here, it will be good to have legit btdt knowledge of the process.
+1, its drop dead gorgeous.
At one time I thought that Matchless had the magneto behind the cylinder and AJS had it before like this bike, I don't know where that came from. I only had Ariels and one Vincent Comet.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on January 27, 2021, 09:58:26 PM
Thanks for the kind words re the Matchless.  I bought it at the start of the - thing from a great collector in upstate NY.  It is correct down to the last screw, but was a display bike and hadn’t been ridden in years. I had to put quite a bit of work into it to make it rideable and reliable. It is a competition bike with optional 6v removable lights, and is very loud.  Same gearbox as the Commandos so easy to ride. No ignition key, just a magneto, manual spark advance and a valve lifter to shut it down. I really hope it doesn’t go back into a display situation.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Rough Edge racing on January 28, 2021, 07:32:03 AM
Ebay has changed their process recently , no more pay pal , upped their fees . BaT will step into some of the void , and am guessing another online site will come along before long .

 Dusty
upped the fees to what? I just checkd to see that low volume sellers have three packag3s to choose from, most expensive is 95 bucks Not bad for the market exposure .
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Burkslaw on January 28, 2021, 07:44:41 AM
I hate to appear to have no class, but I have had good luck on Facebook Marketplace over the last year selling vehicles as diverse as a G0-4 metermaid trike, 2 Buells, a KZ900, an old Sportster and a non-running old Goldwing. I have not gotten absolute top dollar, but I got what I needed to part ways. I'm downsizing due to age and an anticipated move to Georgia, and I've also sold a motorcycle lift and some specialized tools, all on Fecesbook. I have the added advantage of being able to view the profiles of potential buyers to weed out some of the BS offers, and to arrange a meeting at a public place if I have concerns about someone coming to my home and viewing my stuff.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Stretch on January 28, 2021, 08:04:07 AM
I just sold a very nice GB500 on BAT to a fella in Texas.

No reserve is always a wee bit of a risk - I looked at what
previous GB500s had sold for recently and set my reserve
about there. BAT agreed.

One VERY cool thing about the BAT auctions is that if a bid
is received in the last 2 minutes, then the clock on the auction
resets for another 2 minutes of bidding. Completely eliminates
the snipers and ensures that the buyer gets the highest possible
price under the circumstances.

The other cool thing about the site is that it attracts knowledgeable
gear heads with means. They know what they like, and they are able
and willing to pay for it.

And - if you're rude, misrepresent your machine, or refuse to honor
your bid - you're gone from the site for life. This limits the crooks and
BS artists who don't really want to buy anything.

From submitting my machine for listing until the bike was gone was
about 10 or 12 weeks.

Good luck!

That Matchless is cool........  :cool:

                                               -Stretch
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on January 28, 2021, 10:09:54 AM
Beautiful vintage machines.

As many have stated, BaT is a different animal in the online sales arena. One cautionary note, try to stay as pro active with the auction as possible. Responding to comments, both pro and con is helpful in getting top dollar. Maintain your cool, as there are some rude participants. You’ll get requests for a cold start video, paint meter measurements, every service record from new etc. If a request is undoable, or just unreasonable, just comment with a good explanation.

 Best of luck with the auction.

I’ve started the process of listing two bikes on Bring a Trailer, which I’ve never done before.  Ebay has been a good resource, but is sort of one or two steps up from Craigslist, and is pretty expensive.  After acceptance on BaT you have to pay a $99 fee, then they spend a few weeks getting back to you and developing the listings.  I’m through the payment phase for my 1980 v50ii and 1961 Matchless 500:

(https://i.ibb.co/hMQ59Jn/D4-EA10-BF-BB10-49-BA-816-B-493-E556-C231-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hMQ59Jn)

(https://i.ibb.co/NjPn0dP/BF8-B178-A-C09-B-4865-B949-7-ABB7827-DFEB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NjPn0dP)


I spent tonight relocating and wiring the front turn signals on the MG to a new correct oem bracket.  I thought I was going to keep this bike longer, but I saw a video of me riding it and I looked like a bear on a tricycle.  The bike should be ridden by someone half my size. I taught my daughter to ride on it but she does not want to ride on the road, which relieves me a little.

I’m rolling the dice and listing both no reserve, so it could be a disaster - hopefully not. Funds will go to my G5 and BMW R100S projects.  I’m into the bikes for about 3k for the v50 and 9k for the Matchless not counting my labor, which is not insignificant.  If I break even I’ll be pretty happy as it will open up some garage space and replenish the bike account.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: JJ on January 28, 2021, 10:58:58 AM
Good luck with both sales and keep us posted...

I would have put a *** RESERVE *** on that Matchless...but that's just me.

Yes, it appears in the last 12-24 months, eBay and Craigslist have now taken a back seat to BaT...in many areas.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: CWR67 on January 28, 2021, 07:48:23 PM
I sold one of my cars on BaT a few years ago and friends have made purchases off of the site as well.  All transactions went pretty well and I would be fine with selling something else there in the future.

Best of luck with the sales!
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Ryan on January 28, 2021, 11:04:12 PM
Is it just $99 or do they take a cut from the sale?
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Canuck750 on January 28, 2021, 11:15:33 PM
Looking forward to hearing your experience, may put a bike for sale on BAT myself.

:popcorn:
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on January 29, 2021, 05:02:21 AM
$99. is the seller fee, to list the item.

Buyer pays 5 % of the sale price, with a minimum $250. And maximum of $5000.

BaT is printing money...


Is it just $99 or do they take a cut from the sale?
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: AJ Huff on January 29, 2021, 08:05:14 AM
One thing I have not understood regarding BAT, I've seen more than a few listings that mention something along the lines of "if you need financing try JJ Best." Not that unusual, Mecum is similar. What happens if you win that bid on that classic car assuming you are going to get part of the money from financing and it falls through? Does it relist? Does it go to the next highest bidder? Does the bidder that failed to secure financing get banned? Also, if it fails to meet reserve can the seller negotiate a side sale with the highest bidder?

-AJ
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: tazio on January 29, 2021, 08:26:07 AM
I smell a rat somewhere.
SOME of these insane "sold" prices come out of thin air.
Got no proof, just an uneasy feeling about the integrity of some sales.
Hope I'm wrong, or at least glad my rose colored glasses aren't as thick as others.
 :boozing:
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: JJ on January 29, 2021, 09:29:18 AM
QUOTEOne thing I have not understood regarding BAT, I've seen more than a few listings that mention something along the lines of "if you need financing try JJ Best."

Hi AJ Huff - - Sorry, I missed your last detail...what is "JJ Best"...a finance company...or something else ???
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 29, 2021, 11:10:25 AM
QUOTEOne thing I have not understood regarding BAT, I've seen more than a few listings that mention something along the lines of "if you need financing try JJ Best."

Hi AJ Huff - - Sorry, I missed your last detail...what is "JJ Best"...a finance company...or something else ???

5 seconds of Googling... https://jjbest.com/
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on January 29, 2021, 12:11:53 PM
So true. There have been more than a few “successful auctions”, where the “ bidder” has just registered on the day that they place an over the top bid.

 This has happened more often, when the auction is a “ no reserve”.

OK, I’m done with the quote marks.

I smell a rat somewhere.
SOME of these insane "sold" prices come out of thin air.
Got no proof, just an uneasy feeling about the integrity of some sales.
Hope I'm wrong, or at least glad my rose colored glasses aren't as thick as others.
 :boozing:
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: JJ on January 29, 2021, 12:42:20 PM
5 seconds of Googling... https://jjbest.com/

THANK YOU Antietam Classic Cycle...(That's what I thought) :wink: :thumb: :cool:
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: blackcat on January 29, 2021, 03:34:41 PM
I really don't understand the price on this bike:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-honda-cb750-10/
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on January 29, 2021, 10:09:50 PM
I smell a rat somewhere.
SOME of these insane "sold" prices come out of thin air.
Got no proof, just an uneasy feeling about the integrity of some sales.
Hope I'm wrong, or at least glad my rose colored glasses aren't as thick as others.
 :boozing:

A couple of interesting things about BaT.  First, if you post a reserve you agree that they can buy the bike at the reserve if no one else does.  Second, if you do something ratty, like back out after winning or misrepresent something, you are banned from the site for life.  I don’t mind these, but I am making sure that I resolve all issues with the bikes before listing.

It does seem like kind of a feeding frenzy.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: wymple on January 29, 2021, 10:21:25 PM
Ebay has changed their process recently , no more pay pal , upped their fees . BaT will step into some of the void , and am guessing another online site will come along before long .

 Dusty


I used ebay 2 days ago with pay pal.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: wymple on January 29, 2021, 10:26:21 PM
I really don't understand the price on this bike:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-honda-cb750-10/

A shop in Luther, Iowa that does restorations just sold a 650 Yamaha for 15K. Early, but not 1st year.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Petrus Rocks on January 31, 2021, 09:27:03 AM
The prices on BAT seem high but I love the amount of info they show esp. the pics.  I have a 75 Norton I will be selling.  Not sure if I want to post it there.  I use Facebook Marketplace a lot, craigslist not so much for selling.  Depending on the bike I belong to several groups where I can post.  Word of mouth helps a lot.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on January 31, 2021, 04:18:13 PM
The prices on BAT seem high but I love the amount of info they show esp. the pics.  I have a 75 Norton I will be selling.  Not sure if I want to post it there.  I use Facebook Marketplace a lot, craigslist not so much for selling.  Depending on the bike I belong to several groups where I can post.  Word of mouth helps a lot.

I’d follow the current e-start Norton auction Petrus.  Current bidding seems a little low, but it’s only the final price that counts.  The site is a little light on motorcycles, and what is on there is not great stock overall.  Most are clean low mileage bikes rather than high interest models.  The Velo and 851 are good bikes.  I’d love be to see a critical mass of maybe 25 active bike auctions to draw interest for this sector - especially since I’m about to auction one if not two bikes for the first time.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: BSABEN on February 02, 2021, 04:26:20 PM
I recently sold a 441 Victor for $5k and a Suzuki K10 for $3k on eBay. Total fees on each were $25. Seems like a good deal. BSA is headed to Japan and the K10 to Holland.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 08, 2021, 12:49:00 PM
Update - BaT drafted the ad and sent it to me for review and approval / edit suggestions.  I sent over a list of edits, some of which were incorporated.  The ad went live no reserve today for the 61 Matchless.  The ‘80 v50ii is a week or so behind in the ad drafting stage.  Now it is time to just watch the auction and respond to any questions. So far it feels pretty much like an eBay auction.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Stretch on February 08, 2021, 12:56:23 PM
Good Luck!

               -Stretch
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 08, 2021, 12:58:15 PM
Ad looks good.

 I kicked off the bidding for you...pun intended.

Update - BaT drafted the ad and sent it to me for review and approval / edit suggestions.  I sent over a list of edits, some of which were incorporated.  The ad went live no reserve today for the 61 Matchless.  The ‘80 v50ii is a week or so behind in the ad drafting stage.  Now it is time to just watch the auction and respond to any questions. So far it feels pretty much like an eBay auction.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 08, 2021, 01:07:01 PM
I saw the bid and really liked the number. If everything goes wrong for me and right for you you can have the bike at a great price.  It wouldn’t be the end of the world. 
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 08, 2021, 01:15:23 PM
That is a great offer, but I expect to get outbid pretty quick. Just wanted to open things up.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: tazio on February 08, 2021, 02:53:12 PM
Such a beautiful Matchless. :bike-037:
Hoping for the best for you, Scout63!!
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: john fish on February 08, 2021, 02:59:15 PM
Is this it:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961-matchless-g80cs/

Lovely bike.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: cookiemech on February 08, 2021, 03:18:14 PM
Lovely bike.
Buy it, show up this spring at the Rising Creek Bakery meet, and you'll get all the attention you can stand!  :wink:
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: john fish on February 08, 2021, 05:48:49 PM
I do love thumpers but that thing is so beautiful that it's way above my pay grade.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: MAC on February 08, 2021, 06:29:00 PM
I sold a bike last year on Fleabay,PayPal deposit and a $125 flat rate fee.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 08, 2021, 08:04:26 PM
I do love thumpers but that thing is so beautiful that it's way above my pay grade.

It’s above mine too John.  That’s why I’m selling it.  It really needs to either be in one of those wonderful painted-floor collections or thrashed and scratched with abandon.  I’m not at either end of that spectrum. I really enjoyed getting it right, but my SR does everything better and thumpier, and I can replace parts off eBay at will. Plus the proceeds will fund another project or two.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: DesmoDog on February 08, 2021, 08:23:13 PM
From what I've heard, BaT rejects roughly half of the vehicles that are submitted, so it's not exactly everyman's replacement for Craigslist or eBay. As the OP has mentioned it's also not the sort of deal where you decide "I'm going to list my bike this weekend". It's a time consuming process.

I like the site, but it's not a place where anyone can sell whatever they want. They choose what will be listed, if the bike doesn't appeal to them than you're out of luck. Up until recently they were rejecting 916s and the like though lately they've been making up for lost time on that Ducatis from that era.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: 80CX100 on February 08, 2021, 08:44:22 PM
     I love my thumpers!  :bow:

     That's a pretty unique bike, certainly is beautiful looking and the sound  :thumb:

     It'll be a very interesting auction to watch play out, tks for sharing the back story with us.

     Good luck with the sale
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 09, 2021, 06:28:10 AM
DesmoDog,

I agree with you to a point. BaT was just purchased by the Hearst Corp, a for profit, legacy publishing house. I expect going forward, BaT will loosen up their auction acceptance, to a point, that eventually, everything will be accepted. Only a matter of time, until they start to categorize auctions.

,
From what I've heard, BaT rejects roughly half of the vehicles that are submitted, so it's not exactly everyman's replacement for Craigslist or eBay. As the OP has mentioned it's also not the sort of deal where you decide "I'm going to list my bike this weekend". It's a time consuming process.

I like the site, but it's not a place where anyone can sell whatever they want. They choose what will be listed, if the bike doesn't appeal to them than you're out of luck. Up until recently they were rejecting 916s and the like though lately they've been making up for lost time on that Ducatis from that era.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: AJ Huff on February 09, 2021, 11:08:04 AM
I see today BAT has announced they have added a shipping service option for all auctions. I think that could be a significant perk.

-AJ
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Motormike on February 09, 2021, 01:48:40 PM
From what I've heard, BaT rejects roughly half of the vehicles that are submitted, so it's not exactly everyman's replacement for Craigslist or eBay. As the OP has mentioned it's also not the sort of deal where you decide "I'm going to list my bike this weekend". It's a time consuming process.

I like the site, but it's not a place where anyone can sell whatever they want. They choose what will be listed, if the bike doesn't appeal to them than you're out of luck. Up until recently they were rejecting 916s and the like though lately they've been making up for lost time on that Ducatis from that era.

Indeed! For the love of me, I can't figure their selection criteria out.  I have a one-owner 1997 Buell S1 Lightning in excellent condition I submitted to BaT for auction.  They turned me down flat.
Hurt my feeling, I tell ya!  :wink:  So they won't list a clean one-owner motorcycle of which only a couple thousand were made, and I'd be surprised if there are 100 left in the country in running condition, but the same week they list a Honda 750 Nighthawk, one of Honda's most boring motorcycles, of which untold thousands were made? Go figure.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 09, 2021, 04:09:26 PM
I agree.  I think the current /7 with the sidecar is a snoozer.  I think their motorcycle auctions as a whole don't have any cohesion.  Ultimately, they are going to have to find a direction.  There are plenty of great and interesting bikes out there.  Maybe they could pay me to sort through submissions and pick bikes...
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Griso8V on February 09, 2021, 05:19:02 PM
I have a relatively recent experiance with BaT.  I sold a vintage Lancia on the site and it worked out very well.  They require that you submit photos of the vehicle prior to posting the vehicle and opening up bidding.  They can and do reject submissions.  They keep track of both sellers and bidders history so if there are any issues there is a history there that one can check.  If one violates one or more rules they get banned. 
It is a different site than Craigs list in that BaT is aimed at the enthusiasts market not so much the general public like Graigslist or EBay.  They people that are bidding on your vehicle know the mark and vehicle there is not too many if any "tire kickers" that waste your time.  The folks that are bidding and contact you are generally serious.  At least that has been my experience.  I met a very nice Lancia enthusiast who was the winning bidder on my car.  The buyer pays the fee to BaT. 
Hope this helps.  Feel free to ask me any questions...
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 11, 2021, 06:49:11 AM
With four days left, the Matchless is at $4100. I imagine the last 2 minutes of bidding will be a frenzy.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 11, 2021, 11:38:04 PM
Thanks John. The most recent comment on the site got me wondering.  The poster said the bike has history. I wish I knew what it was. Ben
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 12, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
Odd that he doesn’t reveal exactly what he is referring to. History can mean many things. I notice that he just registered on BaT.

Thanks John. The most recent comment on the site got me wondering.  The poster said the bike has history. I wish I knew what it was. Ben
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 12, 2021, 07:08:19 AM
I know. I tried to find a registry. I hope he doesn’t chill the auction. The bike being on a registry is most likely a good thing.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 12, 2021, 07:45:00 AM
I am not saying this is the case here, but I have noticed in other auctions, someone will throw shade on a vehicle. You have to wonder if they are doing it, so one of their buds can snag it, at an under market price. Again, just sayin’.

I know. I tried to find a registry. I hope he doesn’t chill the auction. The bike being on a registry is most likely a good thing.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 12, 2021, 09:41:06 AM
I hope not.  I am trying to connect with him.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Rough Edge racing on February 12, 2021, 09:58:59 AM
People like to mock Ebay and say  it sucks. Ebay has one great point for a bidder, the buyer protection plan...I bought a Jeep Cherokee on Ebay 10 years ago from a large dealer in Maryland. The car was delivered as promised but no title. My numerous calls got me fake promises.I notified Ebay, the buyer protection plan rep was on the dealer like flies on shit..I in addition call the Maryland AG...Within days a new title arrived by courier....
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 12, 2021, 06:15:50 PM
Now the auction is getting into new and uncomfortable territory. Yesterday someone with no history on the site posted a comment that “This bike is known to the TCS/ comp singles register with history and details.”  I’ve asked for clarification but the poster is silent.   I can’t find any such registry. I am concerned that this will chill bidding.  If the history is positive, it might increase bidding.  The auction has 2+ days yet.

I have messaged BaT that if this isn’t resolved I might pull the bike from the auction, which may well get me banned from the site.  I have the v50 in the ad drafting stage.

I’m not concerned about losing BaT as a tool, but I don’t want to be a jerk. I also don’t want to see the bike go for short money as a result of this.

Am I just being paranoid? What would you do?
Ben
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: AJ Huff on February 12, 2021, 06:30:30 PM
First, I didn't take it as a negative comment. Second, if the person isn't a regular and just joined to comment on your bike, I don't think he carries much water. I wouldn't stop the auction or pull the bike.

-AJ
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: AJ Huff on February 12, 2021, 06:36:50 PM
Three days is still a looking time in BAT time ;)

-AJ
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 12, 2021, 07:15:34 PM
+1

Three days is still a looking time in BAT time ;)

-AJ
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 12, 2021, 07:57:09 PM
Thanks so much for calming me down.  Thanks John for the site posting. I’ll hold tight.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: pebra on February 13, 2021, 11:45:46 AM
Now the auction is getting into new and uncomfortable territory. Yesterday someone with no history on the site posted a comment that “This bike is known to the TCS/ comp singles register with history and details.”  I’ve asked for clarification but the poster is silent.   I can’t find any such registry. I am concerned that this will chill bidding.  If the history is positive, it might increase bidding.  The auction has 2+ days yet.

I have messaged BaT that if this isn’t resolved I might pull the bike from the auction, which may well get me banned from the site.  I have the v50 in the ad drafting stage.

I’m not concerned about losing BaT as a tool, but I don’t want to be a jerk. I also don’t want to see the bike go for short money as a result of this.

Am I just being paranoid? What would you do?
Ben

Since you ask: I would bring it up with the auction site.
It sounds like BAT are very serious, so I would think they would look into comments which may be ominous or misleading. As mentioned by others, especially when the comment is from someone with no history on the site.

Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Griso8V on February 13, 2021, 12:13:58 PM
I am assuming that you have a reserve price on this bike.  ??  One should always put a reserve price, once reserve is met then usually bidding picks up.
And yes, there seems to be occasions when someone will post negative comments for some reason...But the reserve protects you so that you dont end up giving it up for much less than its worth...
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 13, 2021, 02:21:24 PM
I did bring it up with BaT. They were very responsive but noncommittal. The poster surfaced and clarified.  I was able to find and post the Matchless listserve. It was just discussion about the bike.  I feel much better now.

Griso - I did not set a reserve.  I usually do but wanted to take a chance on this bike since I think it shows well.  I feel as if no reserve auctions get interest right away.  We’ll see. These auctions don’t do much til the last hours and minutes.

BaT has so much more going on psychologically than eBay.  The combination of preselection and posted commentary creates a very different feel.  I didn’t realize going in how much different it would be.  My v50 is going to be going up not much after the Matchless auction ends.  I’ll get a chance to revisit whether no-reserve auctions are a good idea.

Cold weather regards to all.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: AJ Huff on February 15, 2021, 04:10:20 PM
This is fun watching! Looks like a pretty darn good auction to me. I spend a lot of time lurking in BAT. Granted it's not really over until you receive money and the vehicle is delivered. I think the people here that complain about BAT really don't understand the platform. I'll be interested in your final thoughts. Great finale!!

-AJ
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: AJ Huff on February 15, 2021, 04:13:12 PM
18 minutes of bidding there at the end. Fun to watch.

-AJ
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 15, 2021, 04:29:53 PM
Thanks AJ.  I’ll post final thoughts when the bike is gone, but from now on it should be just like eBay.

I do feel that the site produces a good number of knowledgeable and committed bidders.  It’s not for the faint of heart since all the action is in the last few minutes.  The comments can also be pretty unsettling.  You also have to be very interactive.

My v50 should be up in a week or so.  After that I think I’m done with this for a while.  Wrenching is so much more calming.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: pebra on February 15, 2021, 04:57:39 PM
Hey, Scout,
was the outcome pretty much in line with your hopes and expectations?

Just wondering  :angel:

Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: sdcr on February 15, 2021, 05:36:03 PM
$9700. Wow, and even Malcolm Smith was bidding.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 15, 2021, 09:03:09 PM
Hey, Scout,
was the outcome pretty much in line with your hopes and expectations?

Just wondering  :angel:

The number was right where I had hoped it would be Pebra.  I listed it on eBay last summer and I think the bidding went to about 7500 or 8000, a little short of my reserve.  I paid 8300 for it and put my time and about 1000 in parts into it.  I maybe made $300.00 not counting labor, which we all know is a win.  The real win is more garage space and my bike fund will be replenished.  The G5 just hit the expensive stage - paint and all the small hardware for reassembly.

Thanks everyone for watching and support.  It was nice to have company the first time around.   I think BaT is a great venue for sellers if the bike is somewhat desirable or cool.  I can’t see buying on the site.  The biggest surprise was how exciting the last few minutes were.
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: 80CX100 on February 15, 2021, 09:14:35 PM
  The biggest surprise was how exciting the last few minutes were.

     I kept reading people saying that, but I was still shocked how accurate that description was, what a flurry of bids at the end, must have been a nail biter for you.

     Thanks for sharing that exciting ride with us, it was very interesting to follow along, well done keeping the comments and auction on the rails.

     Congrats with the sale
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Scout63 on February 15, 2021, 09:58:27 PM
It’s worth a look back at the auction results.  It looks like Malcolm Smith was one of the bidders near the end.  I would have delivered the bike across the country personally.  I would like to ride like him for just a day. 
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: Stretch on February 16, 2021, 08:40:18 AM
Result! :laugh:

"The real win is more garage space and my bike fund will be replenished.  "

Yep.

Those last few minutes sure are exciting!

                                                                 -Stretch
Title: Re: Wading into BaT waters
Post by: JJ on February 16, 2021, 08:53:41 AM
The number was right where I had hoped it would be Pebra.  I listed it on eBay last summer and I think the bidding went to about 7500 or 8000, a little short of my reserve.  I paid 8300 for it and put my time and about 1000 in parts into it.  I maybe made $300.00 not counting labor, which we all know is a win.  The real win is more garage space and my bike fund will be replenished.  The G5 just hit the expensive stage - paint and all the small hardware for reassembly.

Thanks everyone for watching and support.  It was nice to have company the first time around.   I think BaT is a great venue for sellers if the bike is somewhat desirable or cool.  I can’t see buying on the site.  The biggest surprise was how exciting the last few minutes were.

Good for you and congrats!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley: