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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gliderjohn on February 02, 2021, 11:03:15 AM
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For you loopers. $8,500:
Eldorado is in excellent running condition with less than 4,000 miles on complete frame off restoration. Odometer shows 59,195
Engine rebuild
• New Gilardoni cylinders and pistons
• New valves and guides
• New cam and lifters
• New main bearings and seals
• Balanced
• After breakin - Heads re-torqued and valves adjusted by Jon at Moto Lab
Transmission and rear drive rebuilt by Charley at Zydeco Racing
• Flywheel machined
• New clutch, intermediate plates, pressure plate cup, springs
• All new seals
Carburetors cleaned, rebuilt and balanced
Frame powder coated
All other parts professionally painted
All chrome either re-chromed, or replaced
Wheels polished and spoked by Woody’s Wheel Works, new bearings, seals, and brake shoes
All other bearings and seals replaced including swing arm and steering stem
Forks rebuilt with new springs and bushings
New Lafranconi mufflers
All new cables
All wiring replaced with new Greg Bender wiring harness
Starter and generator rebuilt
(https://i.ibb.co/C1qrkjC/Screen-Shot-2021-02-02-at-11-01-04-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/C1qrkjC)
GliderJohn
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So is this too cheap or way too expensive? I can never tell with loop frame fans.
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Wow! That’s essentially a new bike!
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From Murray:
So is this too cheap or way too expensive? I can never tell with loop frame fans.
If Cycle Garden was selling this bike they would be asking $20,000. But then they are probably on the extreme high end. But from my understanding $8,500 for this featured Eldo would be a hell of a deal.
GliderJohn
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If I could trust that everything was done correctly, and wanted this style and vintage bike, I would be willing to pay that for pretty much a new "old bike".
I enjoy the look of this particular bike, but I would have to enjoy riding it as well, or it would just sit up on a table like my 2010 Cafe Classic did.
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I don’t do Book of Faces, but maybe a link would let me find it. Please. Thanks
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/898627433562137
not very helpful, I don't care to join just to see the ad. How about linking this particular bikes ad?
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For $8500, couldn’t you get a low mileage Eldorado 1400? If so, that would be much more practical to me. One’s a show pony and one’s a go pony. Depends on priorities I guess.
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Might try this:
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/2509265322701797/?media_id=0&ref=share_attachment
GliderJohn
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not very helpful, I don't care to join just to see the ad. How about linking this particular bikes ad?
Sorry I even tried.
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Super deal on a great looking restoration! I think this is a $10-12k bike all day long
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not very helpful, I don't care to join just to see the ad. How about linking this particular bikes ad?
That is a link to the ad. The ad is on facebook
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That is a link to the ad. The ad is on facebook
here's what I get,
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It's a 2LS drum-brake Eldo, so his asking price is really about what it's worth, regardless of how nice it is.
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Wow! That's a super nice Eldo!!! :drool: If I didn't have mine I would be all over that one at that price. You couldn't restore one to that level for that money.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zGpVKH37/145250236-3966598416713249-498660328585954211-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3k48HRX0)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cJH6m1nS/144969211-3966598350046589-1725696020892316003-o.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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IMHO, it is reasonably priced. I bought a low mileage '72 Eldo in 2013 that was in good overall condition from the original owner. I then proceeded to address all the items listed in the above mentioned ad....myself. I have almost as much money invested (including purchase price) in my Eldo as the asking price for the Eldo we're discussing here. However, I didn't do any cosmetics...paint, chrome, extensive polishing, etc. So, that's why I think advertised Eldo reasonably priced.
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Maybe it is the camera angle but something looks 'off' on it. The front turn signals and the tool box don't look straight.
Nice looking overall though.
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His receipts are more then his price. The tank patch is painted silver, not chrome, nice trick.
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here's what I get,
(https://i.ibb.co/R48v7jP/FB2-C648-B-96-FD-4-EBB-816-A-2607-B0083-DD3.png) (https://ibb.co/R48v7jP)
yeah, thats exactly what I get. If you dont have facebook, you can't see it.
You may be thinking 'sometimes i can see facebook ads even tho I dont have it' that is because of the privacy settings the person has put up the ad has on their account.
I get it, it's frustrating. But for some reason some people, businesses, and organizations think that just because they have FB, everyone must be on there.
I call it their loss, I'm not getting on facebook. If they want my biz or to sell me their bike, they would have a real biz web page or post their scooter on a site anyone can view. Them's the breaks.
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That is a great looking bike. Not great enough to get me on Facebook though.
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His receipts are more then his price. The tank patch is painted silver, not chrome, nice trick.
what a cheap cop out.. especially when he says this,
"All chrome either re-chromed, or replaced"
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You can also see it on Denver Craigslist.
There’s an all-to-common fallacy here. It’s that a restored bike or car is worth at least as much as it cost to restore it. Having restored an Eldo myself, I don’t doubt that the seller has $8k in this bike. The selling price is determined by market forces, though, not by what the seller has in it. Will an Eldo restored by an unknown guy (as opposed to Moe at Cycle Garden) sell for $8k +? We’ll see.
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Probably would easily sell for that on Bring-A-Trailer......glad not every seller goes there YET.
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what a cheap cop out.. especially when he says this,
"All chrome either re-chromed, or replaced"
Thanks for spotting that. I hadn't looked that closely, but now that I have it is obvious it is silver paint. With that bit of deceptive advertising this bike is somewhat tarnished in my mind.
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Out of curiosity I messaged the seller and asked why he didn't chrome the tank indents after all the other work he went to. Will see if he responds.
GliderJohn
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Out of curiosity I messaged the seller and asked why he didn't chrome the tank indents after all the other work he went to. Will see if he responds.
GliderJohn
Originally the entire tank was chromed first. The panels were masked off, and the remainder etched for paint. IMO, The chromed tanks with correct paint, stripes and decal is the nicest part of the loops. That Harpers seat doesn’t fit up well with the tank either.
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Just got a response back from the seller concerning the tank chrome. He said it was too expensive. Hmmm. After all that he has appeared to spend on this bike seems out of character to cut corners there IMHO.
GliderJohn
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Just got a response back from the seller concerning the tank chrome. He said it was too expensive. Hmmm. After all that he has appeared to spend on this bike seems out of character to cut corners there IMHO.
GliderJohn
One of the gents on my Loopframe Facebook group had his done for $450 by this company:
https://waynesautoparts.com/chrome-plating
(https://i.ibb.co/xD2zXyT/Paul-Raley-s-tank.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xD2zXyT)
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Nice! I bet he’s tempted to not paint any of it.
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From Murray:If Cycle Garden was selling this bike they would be asking $20,000. But then they are probably on the extreme high end. But from my understanding $8,500 for this featured Eldo would be a hell of a deal.
GliderJohn
I don't pay much attention to the bikes for sale by Cycle Garden - west coast prices are high to start with & CG is extreme even in that environment. I have noticed that most of the CG loops advertised here or on ebay sit around for a year or more before finally disappearing from the listings (sold or just moved to the back of the garage?). That represents overhead costs that they wouldn't have if they listed their bikes at more reasonable prices & sold them quicker. On the other hand, it's their shop & they can use whatever business model they want.
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I don't pay much attention to the bikes for sale by Cycle Garden - west coast prices are high to start with & CG is extreme even in that environment. I have noticed that most of the CG loops advertised here or on ebay sit around for a year or more before finally disappearing from the listings (sold or just moved to the back of the garage?). That represents overhead costs that they wouldn't have if they listed their bikes at more reasonable prices & sold them quicker. On the other hand, it's their shop & they can use whatever business model they want.
I dont know if people are aware when they talk about this and BAT, but these things do sell at these prices. You would be shocked at how many go to Dubai, UAE, Qatar etc. I have a buddy who does huge 'adventure van' and 4x4 RV conversions.. His rigs easily run $100k+ and he is sending one to the middle east or Russia about monthly. Moe sells a lot of bikes that way, and he also sells a lot to rich people, studio execs, and celebrities based on his location in SoCal allone.
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Wow! That’s essentially a new bike!
Agree with Motogeezer....That's a really nice example...and that's to way to buy them - - "TURN-KEY" - - all sorted and ready to RIDE!! :thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley: I don't think you could restore one that nice for $8500.... :rolleyes: :shocked:
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I don't think you could restore one that nice for $8500....
100% you cant unless you have the skill, time, and equipment to do all your own chrome, powdercoat, etc...
I am working on a loop now (mine will be nicer than this one) and I have all the receipts from the previous owner's work (he put two years in it and it still wasnt running when I got it)-- the receipts total nearly $18K!!! Of course this is top of the line everything from the Bender harness, new engine internals cylinders-pistons-bearings, Heads rebuilt, stainless or NOS hardware and controls, wheels rear drive and tinwork all went to Cyclegarden for rebuild and polish plus an insane expensive paint job with silk-screened logos etc.