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Title: Tonti Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 11, 2021, 12:47:19 PM
I needed to replace the clutch on my G5 . This was the first time crabbing the frame and really it went fairly well . Possibly these pictures can help someone. I needed tie downs, scissor jack and my lift made it easier as well.


(https://i.ibb.co/47kwYxS/20210511-115222.jpg) (https://ibb.co/47kwYxS)
 


(https://i.ibb.co/VHQk05w/20210511-115234.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VHQk05w)



(https://i.ibb.co/kXqYy3d/20210511-120520.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kXqYy3d)



(https://i.ibb.co/VBwMg8X/20210511-130800.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VBwMg8X)



(https://i.ibb.co/LSsYtgr/20210511-130342.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LSsYtgr)



(https://i.ibb.co/rQ5Nsk4/20210511-130752.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rQ5Nsk4)



(https://i.ibb.co/Nj3dtLC/20210512-200135.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Nj3dtLC)
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 11, 2021, 12:53:48 PM
Here is a couple more shots.

Cheers



(https://i.ibb.co/cTP1mbg/20210511-130739.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cTP1mbg)



(https://i.ibb.co/rQ5Nsk4/20210511-130752.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rQ5Nsk4)



(https://i.ibb.co/VBwMg8X/20210511-130800.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VBwMg8X)
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: moto-uno on May 11, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
  The bike looks like it's never been ridden ! Or did you stay up nights getting it ready for the photo shoot ? :grin: Peter
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 11, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Well it was restored in a fashion years ago. I like the way it looks. It sat for a number of years by the time I got it and needed a lot of work as they do when that happens. I enjoy working and riding older bikes anyway. Its wasn't as bad as I thought it would be to crab it really. Went fairly quickly.   


(https://i.ibb.co/3495PVN/20210304-093836.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3495PVN)
   
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 11, 2021, 06:39:58 PM
Quote
Went fairly quickly. 

Austin pulled his G5 into the shop after work at 4 pm for a clutch job. I grinned when I saw the door go up and him riding out at 10.  :smiley: The grasshopper has learned well..
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 11, 2021, 06:57:06 PM
Austin did that in a short time for sure! I pulled it apart today but I wanted a look at the old parts before ordering what I need. Not in a big hurry really I have other bikes I can ride. I also want to give everything a good cleaning while its apart. I see a few other smaller things to do while I can get to them easily as well.   
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tom H on May 11, 2021, 08:31:16 PM
Page is saved in case I need it for my EV!

Thank you!!
Tom
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Groover on May 12, 2021, 07:22:36 AM
Thanks for posting. I'm sure it would take me a month to do the same job  :azn:
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 12, 2021, 08:01:48 AM
I have a clutch alignment tool if you'd like to borrow it.
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 12, 2021, 09:01:25 AM
I have a clutch alignment tool if you'd like to borrow it.

I'm making him an adapter to fit inside an original clutch hub, so that it can be used as an alignment/compression tool.
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: blackcat on May 12, 2021, 11:29:35 AM
I guess I'm the odd man out here as I prefer to just pull the frame off the engine and set it all aside instead of having everything swinging from the ceiling.

In less than two hours I can have everything apart, but maybe I'd feel different with a later bike with lots of wires but my newest Tonti is a 93 without fuel injection. 
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 12, 2021, 06:33:17 PM
 Thanks Charlie! Big help.
I found Pete Roper's description helpful but I looked for good pictures and thought maybe these could help along with his instructions.
No need to hang anything from the ceiling it came apart quickly with the pictured scissors and tie downs. Basically lift the bike with the scissors remove the wheels and drive shaft/swingarm assembly and follow Pete's instruction for the smaller items. At that point lower the bike to the lift tie the front front down and start cranking the lift up. No hanging from anything. It clams right open. It was pretty straight forward and fairly quick really.
Thanks for everyone's comments.     
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 13, 2021, 07:32:59 AM
Once I crab it, I just put a 2X4 across the valve covers to hold everything up. Easy Peasey.
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: blackcat on May 13, 2021, 10:58:28 AM
Once I crab it, I just put a 2X4 across the valve covers to hold everything up. Easy Peasey.

Yes I understand, but in my case I have a two story garage with no open rafters to throw a rope over the top. I might be able to use an engine hoist, but it just seems simpler to pull the bolt and roll the bike away. And I don't have a motorcycle bench so it's all on the garage floor. 

I'm not saying crabbing is wrong etc.   
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: guzzisteve on May 13, 2021, 02:41:35 PM
Look at the rear stand under back of Griso, I made 2 of these, 1 for bigblocks, 1 for smallblocks. Pull swingarm, put stand in place, bottom rails drop right height to let trans out w/motor on a 4X4.

(https://i.ibb.co/K7yF4pz/G-12-engine-pull.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K7yF4pz)
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: acguzzi on May 13, 2021, 03:20:42 PM
hmmm that's clever, I like that stand idea, I'll have to try that, I've always used an engine hoist to lift the frame of the engine.
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: blackcat on May 13, 2021, 04:31:29 PM
Look at the rear stand under back of Griso, I made 2 of these, 1 for bigblocks, 1 for smallblocks. Pull swingarm, put stand in place, bottom rails drop right height to let trans out w/motor on a 4X4.

(https://i.ibb.co/K7yF4pz/G-12-engine-pull.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K7yF4pz)

I completely understand doing that for the Carc bikes.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 13, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
 You don't have to hang it from anything at all. Here are a couple more pictures further back.  A lift is nice to tie the front end down with tie downs. Yup just the scissor jack.  Was very easy and quick.


(https://i.ibb.co/8Y98qV0/20210513-203941.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Y98qV0)



(https://i.ibb.co/Zmbmt31/20210513-204035.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zmbmt31)


Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: v7john on May 14, 2021, 03:35:57 PM
I'll be doing this again soon. Slipping clutch! My method seems much the same.
(https://i.imgur.com/Qn0iZEvh.jpg)
Title: Re: Toni Crabbing Pictures / G5 gear box clutch repair
Post by: Tiny Tim on May 17, 2021, 08:47:07 AM
Yup that's it pretty simple!

Thanks