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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kane on May 28, 2021, 01:45:54 AM
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What gear do you all carry on your bike when on the road and camping out? I’d like to start doing some longer rides, maybe make it to some rallies (all seem pretty far away from SoCal) and pitch a tent rather than do hotels. It’s been a long time since my youthful backpacking days, and I need to get new gear. It would be great to hear about what you carry and how you approach and do this!
Thanks! And Happy a Memorial Day!
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Hi Kane.
The first big dividing line is do want to cook or buy your food.
If you’re cooking.
I use a Coleman stove that runs on the same fuel as your bike. At mid afternoon, I go into whatever shop that looks ok, here in Oz it tends to be the local IGA, but you will have your own preference.
I go for a couple of potatoes, raw carrots, a couple of eggs and whatever meat you want..(usually sausages..).
I have a small hot plate that I made and do the meat and eggs on that and boil the veges in the billy.
You seem to have survived this long without starving, so I’m guessing you don’t need any more advice than that.
Sleeping arrangements consist of the very best sleeping bag your wallet can provide and one of those American Ultra Lite cots that take about 5 min to assemble and a self inflating air bed.
The above will mean that if you score a site that’s less than great, you’ll still be able to sleep. I have in the past when travelling in warmer climates, waited ‘till everyone went to bed and thrown the cot up onto the camping table under the camp kitchen roof... :thumb:
Also handy if it rains, because you are not packing wet stuff away.
Also the best tent that you can afford.
A rubberised bag for your dirty laundry that seals very well, or everything you have ends up smelling like crap....
I allow one full day off when opportunity knocks weather wise at around the 5 day mark or so, to do your laundry.
If you do not and try to start it at 2 pm or so, by the time you get the stuff out to dry it’s too late in the day by far and if you pack it all away anything less than crispy dry, it will grow mushrooms and mould.
My V85 is a tubed model so I made sure I can remove and replace a tyre with basic tools and used only those tools in the shed at home, so I can replicate it all on the road..(breaking the bead is a bit of a thing..).
Just about any problem can be solved with a wallet, mobile and GPS.
In reckon there are a few basic headings.
#1 Currency. If in a foreign country, a travel money card
#2 Navigation. Best GPS you can afford..(motorcycle dedicated)
#3 Communication. International SIM or ability to face time or Skype on Wi Fi
That’s a start anyway.
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I use a good tent, ground cloth for under the tent, good sleeping bag, a small foldable cot, a light/small sleeping pad, a small foldable camp chair, and a battery charging bank to charge my cell phone, helmet bluetooth communicator (that i use to hear gps directions, music, or whatever) (Sena 10). I no longer cook in my camp as it was ok when i took the guzzi or goldwing because i had room to pack that stuff, but if i took my old honda chopper i didnt have much room so i cut out cooking at camp, and eat out on the road. I may pick up some beef jerkey/snacks for camp but thats it. My splurging is i pack a nice jbl bluetooth speaker (about 8 inches by three inches round) because i like music in my camp.
i use my cell phone flashlight for light and thats about all i pack, other than clothes and a good dry bag, and good rain gear! I try to pack as light as i can and still be comfortable!
One thing i would like to get/figure out is a rain tarp to hang up with extendible/foldable poles (LIGHtweight somehow) so i didnt have to sit in my tent whenever it rains. I havent found a small backpacking size of something like that yet, and it always seems there arent four trees available to tie a tarp to. But I am thinking of one of those two tree rain fly's.
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A good tent, sleeping bag, air mattress,
White spirit stove, pots, mug, plate etc
Small axe, toasting fork
Headlight, USB adapter to charge the phone, Spot to let the family know where I am.
Old I-phone loaded with music and a small speaker for entertainment.
Starbucks coffee 1 serving sachets, Oatmeal, brown sugar is a good starter for the day bagels & cream cheese if you are in a hurry
Baileys Irish Cream is a substitute for milk and won't go off
For the evening meal it's good to have a steak, spud cooked in the embers with a 6 pack to wash it down.
Small pack of butter and milk is nice when you have ice to keep the beer cold.
Camping rough is ok but it's good to find a place with shower and laundry every 2nd or 3rd day.
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Ultralight backpacking gear will pack the smallest, but is also expensive.
Tents range from a bivy sack to tents that have garages for your bike.
Decide what the coldest temps your willing to sleep in and make sure and get a bag rated at least 20 degrees colder. Synthetic is better than down if touring in rainy areas, but down packs smaller.
Sleeping pads range from closed cell foam to 2 inch thick self inflating. What you chose will be based on your ability to sleep on the ground and move without pain the next morning.
I like the jet boil cooking system. I do a lot of freeze dried when I camp so instant coffee and oatmeal for breakfast. Mountain House meal for supper and lunch on the road.
Synthetic travel socks and underwear and T-shirts are easier to maintain, lighter and pack smaller than cotton. They can be rinsed out and dried quickly.
I like dry bags with D-rings and ROK straps to secure what doesn't fit in luggage.
Depending on how you like to sit in camp, a tripod stool, low camp chair can be handy.
I also carry biodegradable soap, quick dry wicking towel, my toiletries, and other essentials in labeled dirty bags so I quickly find what I want. I also use waterproof roll up bags to organize my gloves, rain gear, extra layers, etc.
Some people have to have a pillow. Others get away with a zippered pillow case stuffed with the next days clothing. I had a friend that could sleep in his FF helmet.
If you enjoy a cold beverage in camp, get one of those space age insulated soft coolers in case it is some distance from the store to the final stop for the evening.
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Lots of good tips. Pack a few cans of V-8 juice or similar in the saddlebag as an emergency when you are desparate for a drink. I carry sardines only if their is not a cafe to eat in. I seldom eat out here in my home town so when I travel part of the trip is enjoying eating at the small town cafes (that are rapidly disappearing.
Micro fiber small towels work wonders.
Don't forget the paper!
Sixty years ago my camping gear was a furniture pad and a 6 pack. No more laying in a tent with the sweat running off me trying to get a few winks.
For the most part I sleep better outside as the night sounds don't bother me. In a motel I hear the car doors slamming and other activity.
Depending on your trip you might need to make camp reservations or get to the campground early (5)
enjoy,
Tex.
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along these same lines....how do you pick a campground? Do you have one planned and that is your destination for the day or do you ride until your tired and start looking for a campground?
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I've gotten most of my stuff from REI https://www.rei.com/
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along these same lines....how do you pick a campground? Do you have one planned and that is your destination for the day or do you ride until your tired and start looking for a campground?
I used to do the wait and see thing but for the last few years lots of campgrounds are fully booked months ahead. I still resist making reservations unless a particular campground is THE destination. Traveling alone you can always find a place to lay your head and sometimes that becomes the real adventure
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I camped next to a cemetery one night out in western Kansas. It was very peaceful!
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I have found that a lot of "campgrounds" are now RVs only and don't allow or cater to real campers.
kk
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I should have added that I spent a couple of hours yesterday going over my camping gear in anticipation of the Susanville Rally.
kk
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I have found that a lot of "campgrounds" are now RVs only and don't allow or cater to real campers.
kk
I have had two kinds of results at those places. The obvious one and the other is " Oh you're by yourself and just want a place for a tent? Put it wherever and have a good trip " I've had camp host and management tell me everything from no charge to full Rv rate. It never hurts to ask and travelling alone and being sociable typically helps
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lots of great advice here.
my advice is at minimum carry a Gore-Tex bivy sack.
I bought an Army surplus sleeping bag cover for $40 several years ago.
Keeps you dry if your tent fails. can be used solo in warm weather or augmenting your sleeping bag in colder temps.
AND pack your sleeping bag and clothing in waterproof bags.
I double up. Clothes are packed in Ziploc bags inside light weight dry bags.
Sleeping gear packed into light weight dry bags inside a heavy duty dry bag.
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I've steadily improved my gear over the years to the point where I haven't added to it in a while. As an earlier post said you have to decide on food vs. no food and that's a great point. Food is nice but it adds considerably to your kit. I'm a no food camper.
My kit stores and rides in a waterproof bag:
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Things I like in it:
Klymit Static V Lux pad. This was recommended by the late Bruce Lawson and it's a great pad for its pack size. No pump needed; just 25-30 breaths and you are sleeping.
High back camping chair. I have a no name from Amazon, but Klymit is selling something similar. They run sales (I got my pad for 50% off) so you have to watch.
Yetti coffee cup. Ok I'm too cheap to buy a Yetti, but when work gave me one I purposed it into my kit. Coffee in the morning and hooch at night. It's very versatile!
Visco Love camping pillow. It's on Amazon and solved one of my biggest comfort issues.
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+1 the idea of having a camping destination figured out each night. I hate assuming a KOA, or other campground, will be available a discovering it is closed or full. This would send me wandering through the night looking for anyplace to camp which usually turns out to be substandard.
On the other hand, if the area is really wilderness, then I know I can just camp at large wherever it looks good, then I will take my chances at finding a spot at the end of the riding day.
+1 on a cemetery way out on the prairie.
On food and gear, I just copy-cat the zero impact ultra light backpacking things at REI and Campmoor and DIY things like a large sil nylon catenary tarp. Folding Z-type pads are my pad of choice. Since the bike can carry more than my backpack and me, I will throw in a stool, an extra tarp, and maybe some luxuries like an extra pair of socks and a little daily fresh food like taters, turnips and tequila. I have never found a cot small enough to put on a bike in my opinion unlike Huzo, but maybe I will start looking at mini cots. Hammocks are great for some, but did not work for me, but you might try some of the cottage industry hammock makers like WARBONNET. Supposedly you can sleep flat instead of making your body assume a 90 degree V.
I used to like the idea of carrying a little browning buckmark .22 pistol and shoot small game for the campfire, but those days are probably gone.
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At the end of every trip I’ve taken I could have taken less.
But if I didn’t bring it I would have needed it.
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I look for a base camp set up. Lug what you want. Park it w all the perks you want for a period of time. Hopefully you’ll pick a spot that has a lot of day rides.
State and city parks w swimming holes, a small decent market..Vermont has open air lean tos, perfect for heavy rain
Not up for big mile days and camping for 4 weeks anymore.
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Ortleib bags are superb.
This one appears in almost every shot. 5 days of constant rain in Northern Europe and still the sleeping bag stayed dry.
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along these same lines....how do you pick a campground? Do you have one planned and that is your destination for the day or do you ride until your tired and start looking for a campground?
Unless you are near BLM land, you better plan your campgrounds way ahead of time depending on where you are going.
I've played it by ear and had so squeeze in the tent wherever I could at some places. If you need electricity to charge things you end up hanging out in front of the shower facilities :sad:
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you end up hanging out in front of the shower facilities :sad:
....so to speak.. :wink:
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Marriot Reward Points
Hilton Honors
sorry that mine have expired
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....so to speak.. :wink:
:embarrassed:
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For me, there are two scenarios here - touring for an extended period and touring to a rally.
For extended touring I prefer to stay in hotel/motels - Mom & Pop places - and eat in local diners. I do all the cooking at home - when I'm on vacation, somebody else does the cooking!
For rallies, I have a 3 man Eureka tent - +1 on ZZ and the groundsheet thing. A good fart sack is essential - synthetic over down - As is an air mattress. I bought a backpacker air mattress from Mountain Equipment that rolls up smaller than a coffee can and gets me 3 inches off the ground. For a pillow, I wrap my leathers in my towel. I pack a Bubba Mug for coffee (there's always coffee at Guzzi rallies) in the AM and whiskey at night. And a collapsible cooler is a good idea.
And dont forget the Mastercard!!
Cheers!
G
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Realistically, at about 2 pm, I just enter Camping grounds in the points of interest menu en route of my GPS.
You can see up to ten of them ranging from nearest to furthest on a map, with a ‘phone number attached to each one. I do not bother with blue tooth connectivity from my phone but if you did, you can just tap the number and it will dial through.
I just stop and ring.
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Show me the packable chairs.
I have the classic "umbrella style" but they are long in the bag, need to have it inline with the bike, not across. Also have the style with 2 U shaped rods X style and a material section for the seat. I even have some barkolounger style Umbrellas with recliner style foot rests. But again too long.
Would love an Umbrella style that packs up shorter.
Tom
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A quick note about the ground cloth. Used properly, a ground cloth should be about 4 inches smaller than the foot print of the tent. If it sticks out, it will channel water between it and the floor of your tent. I just buy visqueen and cut a chunk the right size. It's cheap and you get plenty to make a new one as needed, but it will last easily for a few seasons. A vapor barrier and floor protector. That rolls up and packs into the tent bag with the tent.
John Henry
That's good stuff, thanks.
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Show me the packable chairs.
What about Kermit chairs? They pack up pretty neatly. I've used them for years.
I don't know what an 'umbrella' style chair is.
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Thank you for all of this great input. I really appreciate all of the shared experience and experienced advice. You guys are so concrete I can much better imagine what I might deal with and how to look at these things.
I think biking may be the new backpacking for me. Unfortunately, I no longer have backpacking or camping gear, but I think I can manage on the bike more than the 70 lb limit I set for myself when backpacking. Thanks for the informative and illuminating anecdotes......I feel like I know a few a you a bit better! I guess camping on a bike is an extension of ourselves in our most freewheeling form. I’ve been reading of people busting lose on the long haul, from Robert Fulton to Peter Eagan (with his “Big Pink” pump tent), and all you guys. Cheers!
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I have not read each post so if someone already hit this, ignore. Try to bring shower shoes (flip flops). They pack pretty small and will keep you from picking up whatever might be growing in the bottom of some community showers. Also, if the weather is hot, you can wear them around the camp.
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4x6x22 inches packed size of Kermit chair
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1.5 x 16 x 26in for the 'adirondack' folding chair. (pictured below)
I have found this to be the best compromise chair. Light and thin and flat when packed. and can be used as a 'rack extender' for piling on more stuff.
Downside: hard for old fat guys to get up,
Upshot: very comfortable and stable and useful for hanging out in the shower line.
What is the smallest packing folding cot?
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Very good point. Several years ago now, I bought one of those battery packs that can recharge stuff. It has come in more handy than I would have imagined. the one I have can be charged either with AC or DC. Some even have solar cells on one side that will recharge them.
John Henry
bring a bluetooth speaker too
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many versatile pitching options
the Winter Hammock Tarp
I have one that was made by local seamstress from these plans.
Here is a link for poles
https://www.questoutfitters.com/tent_poles.htm
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I tried a Kermit chair once. When I stood up it was still wedged to my butt! I was just glad I didn't break it. They're expensive.
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Show me the packable chairs.
I have the classic "umbrella style" but they are long in the bag, need to have it inline with the bike, not across. Also have the style with 2 U shaped rods X style and a material section for the seat. I even have some barkolounger style Umbrellas with recliner style foot rests. But again too long.
Would love an Umbrella style that packs up shorter.
Tom
Look at Helinox chairs, pack down small and light, had ours for around 5 years , plenty long trips. If on soft ground it’s better to put something under the legs to avoid that sinking feeling.
Downside is the cost
Gino
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Yual know I’ve camped a bit on the road. Back of a little grave yard is quitest. Old men need a tent you can stand up in. I’ve got low light weight cot (with a pad in it is the best cot I’ve got ) but you must get on the ground to get in or out. I now use a cot not to high that I can sit on with my feet on the ground and read a book on a rainy day. Now for cooking I’ve got the smallest so low stove(will burn any thing that’s bunable) I drop a alcohol stove down into it. You can cook turkey with it if it doesn’t take over 15 min. I use Heat you can buy at any auto store for fuel for the stove. I have a 3 cup SS coffee pot( my stove will boil coffee in 7 min.. That just a few thing I’ve learned over the yearsRudy
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Sometimes in the graveyard when camping alone on the windy prairie, it takes me a little longer to fall asleep and sometimes I wake up and listen for things in the middle of the night. Nothing is lonelier or quieter than when you crawl out of the tent in the fog of morning after sleeping in the graveyard. Sometimes I push the bike to the roadway instead of starting it among the tombstones and breaking the peace. Then I think, maybe there is one guy there that would enjoy hearing it...
Show me the folding cots.
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Cell phone and a credit card, a clean motel bed and a hot shower is my idea of camping. 😀
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Gino,
Thanks for that. Right style but pricey!!!
Tom
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Campground reservations are a MUST these days, especially out here in the West. And make them now! "Everyone" wants to be outdoors and camping.
We did a four day trip last summer, made reservations two months ahead of time. Two of the three camp grounds were full that evening. The other had room for tents but was otherwise full. For this year's June trip we made reservations four months early - at one campground we got the last site.
For years I used Thermorest sleeping pads, but my hips started hurting - I am a side sleeper. I almost quit camping. But I discovered Big Agnes bags and pads. A three inch air mattress, with some kind of insulation that has no mass when the pad is rolled up, solved that problem. And the Big Agnes bag has a pocket the mattress fits in, so you don't roll off it in the night.
I use a jet boil, freeze dried backpacker dinners, canned stews, instant oatmeal. I bring small bottles of apple juice for swallowing my vitamins in the morning. I like to have a small LED lantern for the tent. A pee bottle is a must in the tent - i use an old big mouth quart Nalgene, others use a Gatorade bottle. My tent is a 2+ size so I can have my gear inside. (and my boots will be coming in the tent too, thanks to a suggestion made above.) I recommend ROK Straps for securing your bags to the bike - do not use bungee cords!
Dan
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Sometimes in the graveyard when camping alone on the windy prairie, it takes me a little longer to fall asleep and sometimes I wake up and listen for things in the middle of the night. Nothing is lonelier or quieter than when you crawl out of the tent in the fog of morning after sleeping in the graveyard. Sometimes I push the bike to the roadway instead of starting it among the tombstones and breaking the peace. Then I think, maybe there is one guy there that would enjoy hearing it...
Show me the folding cots.
Pretty cool. Very atmospheric! So, is graveyard camping a thing? Never really heard of it, but it sounds like a good place to get a peaceful rest.
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it is not officially a thing.
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Good thread this, bravo everyone :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I went on a mission to Wales a couple of years ago and worked out that it would have been better to base myself in one place afterwards
Just need to find a site where I can walk to eat or buy the ingredients for choice
Stand up tent and pee bottles. They're on the packing list for next time :grin: :grin:
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From Kane "So, is graveyard camping a thing? Never really heard of it, but it sounds like a good place to get a peaceful rest."
The first rule of graveyard camping is don't talk about graveyard camping.
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Just don't join the current residents. :evil:
kk
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From Kane "So, is graveyard camping a thing? Never really heard of it, but it sounds like a good place to get a peaceful rest."
The first rule of graveyard camping is don't talk about graveyard camping.
I would be more concerned with who might go to a graveyard at night.
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I stayed at a camp grounds in Co once (on the inter net it showed grass) well I got their late from ar. I couldn’t fined grass. Went back to office a told them I couldn’t find grass camp spots. He laught grass co. So I left, to late to ride on. I found grass about 30’ from dump station, couple drinks & Romain noodles it wasn’t to bad. Just go with what got. Rudy
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Has anyone tried one of these wearable sleeping bags?
REI
https://www.rei.com/used/p/selkbag-original-6g-wearable-sleeping-bag/171882
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I would be more concerned with who might go to a graveyard at night.
You meet the nicest people in a graveyard!
My wife grew up in a cemetary. Her dad was the groundskeeper/gravedigger/crematory operator/etc. and the owners let him live in the old house that was on the grounds.
They had a h*ll of a time getting pizza delivered!
G
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They had a h*ll of a time getting pizza delivered!
G
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Whoever said bring cans of V8 or whatever, I recommend PediaLyte or a Powerade type drink to pack. Always hydrate.
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Good camping equipment is expensive, but well worth it. Backpacking gear is usually lighter and more compact than the cheaper department store type stuff, which is also very handy for carrying on a motorcycle. I usually carry a sleeping bag, air mattress, two person tent, backpacking stove, and a cook set. Most of my cooking is pretty basic - boiling water or warming some food. I carry a few days worth of food as well but plan on stopping at a grocery or convenience store along the way to supplement what I brought with me. My camping gear usually goes in the saddle bags and I put all my clothes in a dry bag that I strap on the rear seat.
Finding camping spots can be hit or miss. I haven't had much trouble taking trips one day at a time, making reservations in the early afternoon once it is determined how far I'll make it each day. Even last year during the time when there was increased travel/vacationing there wasn't much trouble except in the national parks. I usually stick to established campgrounds for some of the amenities, but it would be even easier and cheaper if that isn't a requirement.
I think riding and camping is one of the cheapest ways to travel and see the country. You can do trips on a shoestring budget; the biggest problem I run into is vacation time.
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One thing ever camper needs when going on the road. Don’t star laughing tell you try it. Cheetos or Fritos, can start a fire in a rain or with damp wood. Rudy
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One thing ever camper needs when going on the road. Don’t star laughing tell you try it. Cheetos or Fritos, can start a fire in a rain or with damp wood. Rudy
Last stop for the day buy a bag of cheap corn chips and canned chili.Use half the bag to build a fire eat the other half of the now hot chili to make a freeto pie. Don't get better than that
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This thread prompted me to look into a Kermit chair. They are sold out.
I found a look-a-like, the Kanpai Travelchair. Made of wood + metal just like the Kermit, but it 7 lbs (a little heavier). They have plenty to sell. Bad news, you can't disassemble it like the Kermit for packing up. Although it folds, once, like a normal lawn chair, it doesn't break down completely. So it's really too big for good motorcycle travel.
But if you are okay w that, it really does seem like a solid chair, very similar. I'm returning mine.
Joe
https://www.backcountry.com/travelchair-kanpai-bamboo-camp-chair (https://www.backcountry.com/travelchair-kanpai-bamboo-camp-chair)
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THE solution to having a camp chair …..been using one for years!
Turns your Thermarest into a chair.
Brilliant. Mine has held up well.
Thermarest Trekker Chair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078NGRBSF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_9J5WW1TYWENQVW9KBDFM
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I’m waiting for someone to buy this one and give me a review. Folds to the size of a water bottle.
https://www.cliqproducts.com/products/cliq-chair
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Buy those bag chairs at WalMArt for $7 and throw them away after the rally. Prolly broken anyway.
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Out West in bear country near National Parks. Do Not leave food in your tent, on your bike or on a picnic table near your tent. If you approach someone else's tent in the American Outback, announce yourself. Many areas allow ccw.
Kane, you could try some local state campgrounds for test runs. N & S of LA. Malibu or the one south of San Diego. Bring quarters for the hot showers. Tent camping is cheap.
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I’m waiting for someone to buy this one and give me a review. Folds to the size of a water bottle.
https://www.cliqproducts.com/products/cliq-chair
I tried to, managed to add to cart but then I couldn't find the cart to purchase.
I guess they aren't really serious about selling stuff.
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Out West in bear country near National Parks. Do Not leave food in your tent, on your bike or on a picnic table near your tent. If you approach someone else's tent in the American Outback, announce yourself. Many areas allow ccw.
Kane, you could try some local state campgrounds for test runs. N & S of LA. Malibu or the one south of San Diego. Bring quarters for the hot showers. Tent camping is cheap.
Tom, thanks for the advice and that good idea!
Cheers
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I tried to, managed to add to cart but then I couldn't find the cart to purchase.
I guess they aren't really serious about selling stuff.
Top right hand corner. I didn't complete the transaction but took me to my cart. Asked for billing info and option to pay with Paypay.
-AJ
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Tom, thanks for the advice and that good idea!
Cheers
Check out the Susanville, CA thread. The rally is coming soon. It'll be at the fairgrounds in town. Nice area. Kind of like camping in your backyard. North of Reno on the CA side.
https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=109866.0
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https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/best-gear-gadgets-summer-camping/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email
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Does anyone use hammock instead of tent? With trap and mosquito net?
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Sweden's army stove:
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I use to go to hiking once per year.
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I use a hammock with rainfly but only if trees or posts are available. :thumb:
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Does anyone use hammock instead of tent? With trap and mosquito
My son does. Swears by it. I've got to pee to often to bother.. :boozing:
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Arctic Fox,
I explored the hammock camping thing extensively and moved up to a Dream Hammock DangerBird Hammock. https://dreamhammock.com/
I have a friend in Nevada who belongs to a hammock camping club and several hammock camping secrets have slipped out.
There are several domestic hammock makers in the US operating from cottage industry businesses. They produce higher quality hammocks of more advanced designs than available through bigger consumer distributors.
The main key to the modern hammock is that the sleeper lays at an angle across the hammock. The hammock is cut wider and typically constructed from ultralight nylon in such a way as to facilitate this. A standard tarp can be used for rain protection, but there are special shapes just for hammocks. A mosquito net cocoon as well as waterproof integrated cocoons are available. Typically a custom 'underquilt' is suspended up under the hammock to keep bottom side warm and a custom blanket is used on top of sleeper. The important hanging angle of 30 degrees on each end is optimal. 15 feet nominal between supports capable of 175 side pull strength for a 200 lb Guzzista. Spreader bars on the ends of the hammock are very popular for additional comfort.
Hammocks are not for everybody, but many love them. I gave it a try, but need more work on the system to achieve true comfort. 'might need to add spreader bars.
Hammocks provide a very versatile, compact and light system with potential for supreme comfort for those who can adapt. Absence of suitable trees and potential to damage trees is primary downside even though rocks, buildings, cars etc can be used to help support.
Stock Photo of typical up-to-date set up.
(https://i.ibb.co/1XMSJ9M/brian-scaled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1XMSJ9M)
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I tried sleeping in a hammock a few times. I see the advantages, but I just can't do it. I feel like I am sleeping in a giant U. The last time I used a hammock was in the Negev desert. I was with some Bedouin. There are no trees in the Negev where I was. The Bedouin slept on the ground. For a joke I tied up the hammock between two camels. The Bedouin laughed. I laughed. It was fun for a while then the camels got up and dumped me. Thus endeth my hammock experience.
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Arctic Fox,
I explored the hammock camping thing extensively and moved up to a Dream Hammock DangerBird Hammock. https://dreamhammock.com/
I have a friend in Nevada who belongs to a hammock camping club and several hammock camping secrets have slipped out.
There are several domestic hammock makers in the US operating from cottage industry businesses. They produce higher quality hammocks of more advanced designs than available through bigger consumer distributors.
The main key to the modern hammock is that the sleeper lays at an angle across the hammock. The hammock is cut wider and typically constructed from ultralight nylon in such a way as to facilitate this. A standard tarp can be used for rain protection, but there are special shapes just for hammocks. A mosquito net cocoon as well as waterproof integrated cocoons are available. Typically a custom 'underquilt' is suspended up under the hammock to keep bottom side warm and a custom blanket is used on top of sleeper. The important hanging angle of 30 degrees on each end is optimal. 15 feet nominal between supports capable of 175 side pull strength for a 200 lb Guzzista. Spreader bars on the ends of the hammock are very popular for additional comfort.
Hammocks are not for everybody, but many love them. I gave it a try, but need more work on the system to achieve true comfort. 'might need to add spreader bars.
Hammocks provide a very versatile, compact and light system with potential for supreme comfort for those who can adapt. Absence of suitable trees and potential to damage trees is primary downside even though rocks, buildings, cars etc can be used to help support.
Stock Photo of typical up-to-date set up.
(https://i.ibb.co/1XMSJ9M/brian-scaled.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1XMSJ9M)
I have
Hammock
(https://i.ibb.co/7VkRgDC/Hammock-kopio.jpg)
Tarp/cover
(https://i.ibb.co/wM5jNSn/Tarp-3-5m-x-3-5m-kopio.jpg)
Mosquito net
(https://i.ibb.co/PYDZpMH/Mosquito-net-kopio.png)
* Underquilt (for colder nights) ... underside of hammock.
(https://i.ibb.co/QFKCfK8/Underquilt-kopio.jpg)
* Pad (for colder nights) ... inside of hammock
(https://i.ibb.co/k9jwbFm/Hammock-pad-kopio.jpg)
All together? Those came to cost the price of good quality hiking tent. All are Ticket to the Moon products. It is world known producer in hiking hammocks. There are many much cheaper ones available, but TTTM products are produced with high ethics (no matter they do them in Bali). No child labour used, good working conditions, reasonable salaries and company is helping local peoples' lifes (education & healthy care). Yes, I chose them instead of cheaper copies. Oh, I'm not rich, but I hope those will last longer (offering 2 years guarantee etc.) and be good purchase for longer run.
On the other hand ... that is very flexible system, all parts fits to each others. Tarp/cover is 3,5m * 3,5m size ... so at rainy days I can easily cook and do other things under it. Plus keep my backpack there. Also separate underguilt and pad allows to use the hammock all the seasons except the coldest winter (if your sleeping back just is good enough). Surely too hard wind will not be nice either ... I have faced thunder and ligtening.
Of course, never yet tried that as riding bike.
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Great thread.
I almost never use camping sites.... I go up into the hills or mountains if I can and look for the tell-tale signs of a place where no-one will bother me... no-one has ever bothered me yet.
That feeling of being alone in the wilderness on a spot of ground that no-one owns with no other humans around, that's the good bit of camping imho
Also, I usually put my veggie sausages into aluminium foil and wedge them somewhere near the cylinders and enjoy my cooked sausages before I've even put my tent up. nice.
The wildlife in Britain and Europe is very much more benign than in the US and OZ which helps a lot, I'd be bricking it seeing some of the magnificent animals that you guys share the wilds with
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Wish I could find some good porchetta sausage to cook on the SP2, but the BMW K100 was a better oven.
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Great thread.
I almost never use camping sites.... I go up into the hills or mountains if I can and look for the tell-tale signs of a place where no-one will bother me... no-one has ever bothered me yet.
That feeling of being alone in the wilderness on a spot of ground that no-one owns with no other humans around, that's the good bit of camping imho
Also, I usually put my veggie sausages into aluminium foil and wedge them somewhere near the cylinders and enjoy my cooked sausages before I've even put my tent up. nice.
The wildlife in Britain and Europe is very much more benign than in the US and OZ which helps a lot, I'd be bricking it seeing some of the magnificent animals that you guys share the wilds with
Like you, when I was younger I would camp in the remote areas of Maine (a rural state in the USA) and Quebec, Canada. I used an army pup tent w no floor, no rain fly, no bug net. Cooked simple food, and was happy (what did I know).
Older now, I appreciate running water, a store nearby, and I must admit I prefer renting a cabin or lean-to.
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Looking around, I found the European version of the Kermit Chair, called the Woodpecker by Nigor. Doesn't seem to be sold in the US, unless you pay $$$ to have it shipped from across the water.
https://www.canvascamp.com/en/woodpecker (https://www.canvascamp.com/en/woodpecker)