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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: rudyr on May 30, 2021, 05:33:20 AM
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I know their is car driver upset with Luap & myself. We were coming back to Ar. On Hy. 412 and a car was using use as point. we were in a hurry to get back to Ar. Well I guess the car driver didn’t need us any more so he took the lead, not 5 min. What did we see when we popped over hill, one of ok finest. He pulled the car over. I just can hear him say get those two SOB’s on motorcycles. The big black was the worst one and the little black just trying to stay up.Rudy
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Hi Rudy, 5-30-21
Been there, done that, don't have the ticket.
As a matter of course, whenever I'm on a highway (or suspicious back road), I always look for a "point vehicle" to follow at a safe distance.
It's pretty easy to find one and they are usually the one's one least expects...10 year old Subaru 4 door, beat-up Honda Accord, any diesel pick up, etc.
Back in the rum running days, it was routine to send a "sweeper" ahead of the tank car to clear the path. I have heard that is how NASCAR and other dirt track racers got their start. :wink:
Keep on keepin' on.
Be well, stay well,
DougG
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I was following a point vehicle at a safe distance one day and a state trooper coming the other way on this two lane blue lighted the car and turned around in front of me to take off after him. As I rode by the State Trooper was in the road and I was in the other lane and he put his hand out. I thought he was waving so I waved back. That is when he yelled STOP! Yep, had to go to defensive driving school.
Lesson learned. If cop goes after front vehicle, turn around and go the other way.
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I know their is car driver upset with Luap & myself. We were coming back to Ar. On Hy. 412 and a car was using use as point. we were in a hurry to get back to Ar. Well I guess the car driver didn’t need us any more so he took the lead, not 5 min. What did we see when we popped over hill, one of ok finest. He pulled the car over. I just can hear him say get those two SOB’s on motorcycles. The big black was the worst one and the little black just trying to stay up.Rudy
:evil: The difference is...we didn't get caught. I can almost hear the LEO say "well, you're the one I caught". I almost always look and hope for an escort (point). When none is available, I typically only run around 7-8 over on major highways. 9 or more seems be cause to get stopped. On Cedar Vale weekend, I did a 480 mile day on the Indian and was following a 3/4 ton Ford pulling a 40' flatbed full of generators. Dude had his cruise on 110 and I paced him about 1/4 mile behind. That was a fun stretch of about 90 miles when he had to pull off.
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My wife calls it a “rabbit.” It’s always nice when they are going 90+.
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In the ‘80s when I rode from Shreveport to Dallas on I20, I would let the truckers run the front door. Sometimes they would run 110 and I would stay with them, smelling for hot rubber in case the were about to sling a tread. I miss those runs and wonder if they still run like that. Of course I would never want to exceed the posted speed by more than 50% or so....
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I refer to vehicles like that as “bear bait”.
On my old commute there is a notorious section thru an area called Chattahoochee Hills. Only safe to run 5 over max. It never hurt my ego to get passed then follow along an eighth to quarter mile back. That’s also a major way my buddy and I have made numerous road trips without tickets.
It’s important to add to always be aware of your surroundings and never over ride your abilities. Also, areas of the country differ greatly. Running up the east coast we run around 10 over max. Out west, say in the Dakota's, there’s stretches I’d be comfortable running well into triple digits while eating a burger and fries and a milkshake! (<- that’s called hyperbole for y’all literal minded folks)
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Really officer, I was just trying to get home before I have an accident :grin:
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I was following a point vehicle at a safe distance one day and a state trooper coming the other way on this two lane blue lighted the car and turned around in front of me to take off after him. As I rode by the State Trooper was in the road and I was in the other lane and he put his hand out. I thought he was waving so I waved back. That is when he yelled STOP! Yep, had to go to defensive driving school.
Lesson learned. If cop goes after front vehicle, turn around and go the other way.
True. Being second in line is no "get out of jail free" card. I had the exact same thing happen. Later, the officer showed me how the radar can lock onto up to six (?) different vehicles and display their speeds in mere seconds.
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I refer to vehicles like that as “bear bait”.
On my old commute there is a notorious section thru an area called Chattahoochee Hills. Only safe to run 5 over max. It never hurt my ego to get passed then follow along an eighth to quarter mile back. That’s also a major way my buddy and I have made numerous road trips without tickets.
It’s important to add to always be aware of your surroundings and never over ride your abilities. Also, areas of the country differ greatly. Running up the east coast we run around 10 over max. Out west, say in the Dakota's, there’s stretches I’d be comfortable running well into triple digits while eating a burger and fries and a milkshake! (<- that’s called hyperbole for y’all literal minded folks)
Yep that’s the terminology in my neck of the woods and yes I’ve been on both sides of this situation 😂😂😂
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I once followed on my SP a CT State Trooper on his Kawi 1000 from Hartford to Colchester on Rte. 2. 80-90mph, I stayed back a 1/2 mile or so. Fun ride!
Larry
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Going to Tulsa yesterday I took the turnpike for about 25 miles. Followed a big Mercedes doing a 100 for about ten miles. I was riding into a strong 30 mph headwind it was beating me to death. So I got behind an SUV with GA plates eased in about 88 mph. Speed limit is 80 so when I topped the hill and saw the trooper, he didn't even flinch.
OTOH, Darren and I were heading home from Texas and were north of Ardmore. His FJR was latched on to Range Rover doing about 95. I-35 had 70 speed limit and I knew the area was regularly patrolled, so I held back a little. Well, I was the one pulled over doing 87. The LEO knew I was following the faster guys but he just seemed to want to talk to me, like what is a Ducati(?). Anyway, he let me go, I saw Darren a week later.
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Just a friendly word of advice.
Most of us at some time used the proverbial “bait car” at some time or another. It was safe to do so with the old moving or stationary radars because you can only lock on to one vehicle at at time.
The new modern radars work quite differently.
Now the user can identify snd clock a car or bike Individually, just like aiming a gun and pulling the trigger for an immediate reading then clocking another vehicle. Officers will like up on a bridge and clock multiple vehicles and by radio assign each of the waiting officers a car to capture. Bummer right? Well we do always have the option of fleeing from the Dodge Charger as he only has a top end of 130 mph+😂😂😂😂
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I call them ticket takers. I've never been stopped for a moving violation while in formation. I've seen maybe three ticket takers do their job ahead of me.
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Officer, I was just trying to stay in the traffic pattern.
There’s no traffic.
I was trying to catch up.
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Some one out there needs to even the field with a true jammer offering ........ one that reflects back a pulse.
You know......... the proper and fair way to play. :wink:
Ciao
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Just a friendly word of advice.
Most of us at some time used the proverbial “bait car” at some time or another. It was safe to do so with the old moving or stationary radars because you can only lock on to one vehicle at at time.
The new modern radars work quite differently.
Now the user can identify snd clock a car or bike Individually, just like aiming a gun and pulling the trigger for an immediate reading then clocking another vehicle. Officers will like up on a bridge and clock multiple vehicles and by radio assign each of the waiting officers a car to capture. Bummer right? Well we do always have the option of fleeing from the Dodge Charger as he only has a top end of 130 mph+😂😂😂😂
My buddy's '69 Mach 1 could do 130. I figured a Dodge Charger Cop Car could do at least 150! The accessories designed for the Kawasaki Concours 1400 had to be designed to 150 mph. I'm not saying I ever went that fast.
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My buddy's '69 Mach 1 could do 130. I figured a Dodge Charger Cop Car could do at least 150! The accessories designed for the Kawasaki Concours 1400 had to be designed to 150 mph. I'm not saying I ever went that fast.
You did see the + I put after suggesting the mopar’s 130 mph 😉
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There’s an easy solution if you have anxiety about getting a speeding ticket.
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I refer to them as "sweeps" as in mine sweepers.
Good to know that modern radars can record multiple vehicles at the same time.
Dan
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Just a friendly word of advice.
Most of us at some time used the proverbial “bait car” at some time or another. It was safe to do so with the old moving or stationary radars because you can only lock on to one vehicle at at time.
The new modern radars work quite differently.
Now the user can identify snd clock a car or bike Individually, just like aiming a gun and pulling the trigger for an immediate reading then clocking another vehicle. Officers will like up on a bridge and clock multiple vehicles and by radio assign each of the waiting officers a car to capture. Bummer right? Well we do always have the option of fleeing from the Dodge Charger as he only has a top end of 130 mph+😂😂😂😂
Much appreciated. Now that I am older, I find LEO's are willing to cut me a little slack for a small wheelie (NGC) or 10-15 mph over. I suspect at about 30 mph+ over or a half mile long wheelie, no one gets a break.
Last time I got pulled over it was for a 18" high wheelie about 50' long. The LEO said, "I thought you were going to run from me." I replied "Yeah, maybe 30 years ago I would have." No ticket. No point in lying about it when you get caught.....
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My buddy's '69 Mach 1 could do 130. I figured a Dodge Charger Cop Car could do at least 150! The accessories designed for the Kawasaki Concours 1400 had to be designed to 150 mph. I'm not saying I ever went that fast.
A stock Mach1 could do 130 on the speedo, not in reality....
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Yup. ^^^.
After traveling nearly 100k in my fully rebuilt 428PI-spec 1967 Ford Galaxie as a kid and then time with multiple later model Police Interceptor Fords in my life since then, that 130mph in a Mach 1 is no comparison to legit 130mph in a police car- especially 2021 full tilt Dodge police car. It doesn't take many bumps or corners to quickly figure out that the new police car will win. Not to mention radios, cameras or computers & all the other LEOs anxious to help.....
The current 428 1967 Galaxie in my shop won't get driven fast and hard like my old car did. My bikes don't get ridden like that anymore either. I don't speed now because I'm way more cognoscent of collateral damage like children and significant others. And everybody out there is a child or significant other to somebody.
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Back in the 55 era I was riding my 900 kaw from Chicago to Billings on the old roads and got stopped 3 times with no tickets.Seems like the cops just wanted to talk motorcycles.I was probably doing 70 or so .Going back to the 55 limit might not be a bad idea given the crazy speeds on the interstates and carnage on the interstates these days.
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One ticket in 1971 driving a '65 notchback 289 4 speed Mustang for excessive acceleration . Seem to remember it was ten bucks , no idea what happened to the guy driving the Firebird who didn't just pullover like I did , guessing the LEO wasn't nearly as nice to him as he was to me .
Dusty
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The craziest speeding thing I was involved with was back in the mid 70s when I and a cousin were on I-35 with him driving my father's 68 SS396 El Camino. Three bikes past us at speed (Two Honda 750s and a Kaw 900). Cousin decided to catch up with them. As he started to pass them the Kaw moved right in front of us and the rider bent over and nailed it as did cuz. We soon left the Hondas but the Kaw stayed out in front of us until will were showing 5,600 rpm. The Kaw rider then decided to to end the fun by shutting the throttle and sitting upright. We came within about a yard to rear ending him as the 68 SS only had drum brakes. Being young and dumb as they say.
GliderJohn
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For years I always did a Memorial Day weekend ride. About 8 years ago a buddy and I were blasting up I-81 after having done the dragon's tail and sharehold of skyway on our FJR's early Sunday morning to get up to Lexington Virginia where we were meeting with some other riders. It was about 8:00 a.m. and the highway was wide open so we were both pushing 120 -130. As we crested a hill we saw a trooper in the median who had us dead to rights. We immediately pulled over and we're off our bikes helmets and papers in hand with sheepish grins.
About a minute later he comes screaming by us and passes us. Something must have clicked because he nailed his brakes pulled over to the shoulder and backed up to where we were. He says were you boys those two who just went past me? We said yes officer. He asked us why we didn't keep going because he probably wouldn't have caught us. We were both in the military he the Navy May the army and he saw the military IDs haircuts smiled and said happy Memorial Day boys please keep it below 80 and he smiled and walked away. That was a good thing because those speeds were impound and arrest territory.
I personally don't like it when cars Pace me or stick with me when I'm on a motorcycle. I'll slow down to 40 miles an hour if that's what it takes to get them away from me.
And all my years of writing I've never gotten a ticket while on my motorcycle somehow I've always been able to get out of it or avoid it to begin with.
Four wheels is another story all together. For about 2 years I think I kept my county state troopers employed I had so many tickets and fines.