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Title: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: ohiorider on June 14, 2021, 10:02:22 AM

A far cry from the little Mercury Mark 25 we ran on a cartopper years ago!

https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/engines/outboard/verado/verado-600hp/

Bob

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: cloudbase on June 14, 2021, 10:29:58 AM

Should be a real treat to insure the boat it's attached to.

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: dirtiegirtie on June 14, 2021, 10:45:30 AM

I have a rather well-kept 2010 17' Alumacraft side-console with a 40hp 2-stroke. My guess is the prop on this 600hp behemoth costs more than my entire set-up.

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: Perazzimx14 on June 14, 2021, 02:42:03 PM

Quote from: cloudbase on June 14, 2021, 10:29:58 AM

Should be a real treat to insure the boat it's attached to.

14 foot double wide John boats are that bad :)

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: old head on June 14, 2021, 05:34:11 PM

Yeah, but there is a new guy in town.  Very intriguing design and huge power from a 4cyl.
It all centers around a connecting rod design that improves power, reduces vibration, and reduces complexity.

https://www.startengine.com/alfadan

Old Head

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: n3303j on June 14, 2021, 05:37:51 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/dJR887M/20210610-144036.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dJR887M)

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Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: fotoguzzi on June 14, 2021, 06:18:29 PM

600 HP. Im at a loss for words.

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: ozarquebus on June 14, 2021, 06:52:22 PM

460 cubic inch V12?..... :shocked:
Everybody that is anybody in MIAMI will trade in all their 425 HP outboards for a set of 4 or 6 of these, now.

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: tris on June 15, 2021, 04:32:26 AM

Is there an advantage in hanging 1/2 ton of engine off the transom of your boat as opposed to having the same mass inboard and low down apart from space inside the boat?

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: n3303j on June 15, 2021, 07:38:40 AM

Quote from: tris on June 15, 2021, 04:32:26 AM

Is there an advantage in hanging 1/2 ton of engine off the transom of your boat as opposed to having the same mass inboard and low down apart from space inside the boat?

Easier to maintain or replace if there is a major problem. Also drive can come completely clear of the water in shallow conditions.

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: tris on June 15, 2021, 10:33:44 AM

Thanks for the education  :thumb:

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: John Ulrich on June 15, 2021, 11:07:05 AM

V12 = $77,000 each.

https://www.boatingmag.com/outboard-vs-inboard/

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: LowRyter on June 15, 2021, 12:00:53 PM

Quote from: old head on June 14, 2021, 05:34:11 PM

Yeah, but there is a new guy in town.  Very intriguing design and huge power from a 4cyl.
It all centers around a connecting rod design that improves power, reduces vibration, and reduces complexity.

https://www.startengine.com/alfadan

Old Head

I didn't see any of the technical stuff nor any mention of con rids, just a vision on a very powerful 4 cyl engine that has fewer moving parts.  I'd like to see the technical explanation. 

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: bacongrease on June 16, 2021, 09:09:53 AM

 A couple of those babies,  would one need a tanker following?

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: jwinwi on June 16, 2021, 10:11:01 AM

Quote from: John Ulrich on June 15, 2021, 11:07:05 AM

V12 = $77,000 each.

https://www.boatingmag.com/outboard-vs-inboard/

Not sure about this particular motor but Mercury is super busy and selling 'em as fast as they produce them. They also suspended their employee purchase program due to demand.

Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: scura283 on June 16, 2021, 10:53:53 AM

Saw this at Road America a couple of years ago, no specs but impressive none the less!
(https://i.ibb.co/WnfLDL4/485888-A1-7-E8-D-4-A93-BF4-C-9-A0-EF151-DF07.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnfLDL4)

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Title: Re: NGC - Definitely not your father's outboard!
Post by: larrys on June 17, 2021, 07:32:24 AM

Here's that same motor with its clothes on. 627HP. The block is a supercharged Cadillac V8.

(https://i.ibb.co/tYpN0WK/IMG-0968-small.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tYpN0WK)

When you just gotta go fast.

(https://i.ibb.co/X2DcGxY/IMG-0966-small.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X2DcGxY)

40' Intrepid. Motors are $100,000 apiece, the whole package, with electronics is $1.1M.

(https://i.ibb.co/L0z9gxV/IMG-0964-small.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L0z9gxV)

Larry