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Title: Looking for a good torque wrench
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Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Dirk_S on July 04, 2021, 10:04:28 PM
Torque wrench for… general bolt nuts/bolts I assume, as opposed to spokes and other?

There are wrenches as well as torque adaptors that fit onto existing socket wrenches.

Are you looking for something in ft lb.? or in. lb.? Something to get at the biggest bolts or something more delicate?

Personally, I’m a fan of AC Delco’s digital torque adaptors, as they pack smaller, which is good for touring should you decide to take one with.  I’m sure many others will vouch for a click-style or old-school beam-style. If you go for a click-style, I have two cheap Pittsburgh models (Harbor Freight)—one for ft-lbs, and the other in-lbs—and I’m personally happy enough with them, but they’re not the most accurate brands. If you have the $$, I’d recommend getting one of better quality.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Wayne Orwig on July 05, 2021, 08:00:58 AM
You'll probably want one for a lower torque range and one for a higher range. So you likely need at least two. (you're keeping it a secret what you even need them for so.....)
Grab a couple of cheap beam types, use them a few times to train yourself on what the proper torque is. Toss them in the bottom of the toolbox and they will stay calibrated.
Or, get a couple of really high priced clicker type. You'll want to get them calibrated more often than you use them.
Or get a couple of high dollar digital ones. With any luck they will not go bad in a couple years.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: guzzista on July 05, 2021, 09:52:55 AM
A nice well priced brand for decent quality is Tekton.  A 1/4   and a 3/8 drive would be the most useful, with the 1/2 for larger jobs.
Not associated with the  brand , just good results in the last number of years as purchased  by the tool room at the school where I work

https://www.tekton.com/wrenches/torque-wrenches

https://www.tekton.com/about-us
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 05, 2021, 10:44:58 AM
Even a "good" torque wrench can be out of calibration making it not so good.

For general home use I have found the offerings from HF to be adequate. There are plenty of video on YT showing hoew to check calibration.

Also use the right torque wrench for the job. Torque wrenches are most accurate in the middle of their range. All to often folk pick the biggest clicker they can find that ranges fro 15 ft/lbs to 125 ft/lbs then wonder why they break a M6 fastner when trying to tighten to 16 ft/lbs.

Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: ToddK on July 05, 2021, 11:16:59 AM
I have been fairly impressed with this Park, especially at the price.


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Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: bmc5733946 on July 05, 2021, 11:53:43 AM
Click type torque wrenches are most accurate in the middle 2/3s or so of their listed range. Beam type torque wrenches are pretty accurate over their full range but can be more difficult to read, calibration of beam types is pretty easy and is obvious to the user. Keeping this in mind is useful when determining which wrench is most useful for you. Harbor Freight has sold an electronic transducer unit in the past that tested as very accurate over it's range. Google torque wrench tests and I think you'll find that test or maybe some more current.

Brian
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Demar on July 06, 2021, 12:56:43 AM
I like Proto click-type torque wrenches. As mentioned before aim for the middle of the range for your most often used torque values. Proto offers in-lb and ft-lb ranges.

https://www.amazon.com/Proto-J6012C-Ratcheting-Micrometer-20-100-Feet/dp/B002FCH8XI/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1V2AKA9P2I2WA&dchild=1&keywords=proto+torque+wrench+3%2F8&qid=1625550770&sprefix=proto+torque%2Caps%2C247&sr=8-4

Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Pdmartin on July 06, 2021, 12:22:22 PM
Make sure you unload clicker type torque wrenches after use.  Storing them wound up is a sure way to ruin the calibration over time.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Ighani on July 06, 2021, 04:54:45 PM
These get very good reviews, and you can store them at any setting.

https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Instruments-PREC2FR100F-Wrench-Torque/dp/B000YOX568/ref=pd_bxgy_1/140-3671193-0802911?pd_rd_w=e2JO1&pf_rd_p=fd3ebcd0-c1a2-44cf-aba2-bbf4810b3732&pf_rd_r=8SRB5TEA8NHFP5VM19CA&pd_rd_r=b77f141b-22e5-47e2-b830-e8f7cf7dbd28&pd_rd_wg=sOZPI&pd_rd_i=B000YOX568&psc=1
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Wayne Orwig on July 07, 2021, 08:36:31 AM
Make sure you unload clicker type torque wrenches after use.  Storing them wound up is a sure way to ruin the calibration over time.

Usually. Some are designed to be left loaded. We used those in our factory where they stayed set at the same click point 24/7.

I got a strong dislike of clicker types in the factory. We had to test them daily, and they drifted all over the place. We tried digital ones, but they were always broken. The beam type just worked, but took too much training. So we stuck with the click style. One of the oddest things I encountered, was we had a part that wasn't appearing to be tight enough, and it was moving. Engineering constantly blamed the factory, and nobody know what was wrong. One day I was talking to the engineer about it, as I watched him assemble it. He torqued down the part, the wrench clicked, and he kept turning it maybe another 1/8 turn. I asked him why he over torqued it like that, and he was 100% certain that the clicker torque wrench would not allow you to over torque it.  :violent1:   Geez, when the mechanical engineer is that clueless, and they want to hire people off the street to build these things. After that we raised the torque value and solved the issue.  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Lumpy Idle on July 07, 2021, 03:44:47 PM
You'll probably want one for a lower torque range and one for a higher range. So you likely need at least two. (you're keeping it a secret what you even need them for so.....)
Grab a couple of cheap beam types, use them a few times to train yourself on what the proper torque is. Toss them in the bottom of the toolbox and they will stay calibrated.
Or, get a couple of really high priced clicker type. You'll want to get them calibrated more often than you use them.
Or get a couple of high dollar digital ones. With any luck they will not go bad in a couple years.

YES. YES and YES. i agree completely with wayne here. i currently have 3: one is of them is of the pretty inch pound variety and it has its own nice little zippered black case. its the tekton. it doesn't get used often and it resides in a place safe from banging about. the second is an old (really old) craftsman clicker. its handy but i don't trust it anymore. i will use it for tightening lug nuts but not not for the head tightening ritual. folks with the clicker types will be sure to remind you not to put them away loaded - i mean dial the torque back down to near minimum when you are done for the day. if not you risk losing accuracy on your future reads. the third is an old beam type. you can find these at flea markets all the time. pick one that isn't battered and it will last you fr'evr. a study was done some years back (by_____...someone) that indicated that the beam types are remarkably accurate. not what you would expect considering the abject simplicity of the mechanism.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Lumpy Idle on July 07, 2021, 03:58:00 PM
...He torqued down the part, the wrench clicked, and he kept turning it maybe another 1/8 turn. I asked him why he over torqued it like that, and he was 100% certain that the clicker torque wrench would not allow you to over torque it.  :violent1:   Geez, when the mechanical engineer is that clueless, and they want to hire people off the street to build these things. After that we raised the torque value and solved the issue.  :rolleyes:

perfect!! well what's better than a good torqueing? a little more torqueing - not much more...but just enough to defeat the purpose of the tool. i once heard this sort of thing referred to as "precision theater and i think it may be rampant on the shop floor.

my old craftsman clicker started to behave a bit erratically and i decided to give it a good oiling - not a disassembly oiling but a squirt a bunch of oil on it and let it marinate for a while type of oiling. it seemed to work but i always wondered if oiling it actually affected or altered its accuracy in some way.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Lumpy Idle on July 07, 2021, 04:02:39 PM
I have been fairly impressed with this Park, especially at the price.

park tool? the bicycle folks? if so, i have always found their tools to be really nice but quite costy.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: ToddK on July 07, 2021, 09:35:24 PM
Yep, the bike guys. This was quite reasonable, though I can't remember just what I paid.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: midnite on July 07, 2021, 11:18:04 PM
I lamented over the torque wrench decision for quite some time, and ended up opting for CDI, which is made by Snap On. It purportedly delivers the same quality/reliability at a fraction of the cost, though they’re still a bit spendy (I paid about $130 for a 3/8 10-100 ft lb wrench). At the end of the day, the price was well worth the peace of mind of knowing that it’s an excellent tool that I can rely on. As a bonus, I still got to satisfy my inner cheapskate, knowing that I got a Snap On quality tool for a lower price!
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 08, 2021, 08:25:57 AM
A nice well priced brand for decent quality is Tekton.  A 1/4   and a 3/8 drive would be the most useful, with the 1/2 for larger jobs.
Not associated with the  brand , just good results in the last number of years as purchased  by the tool room at the school where I work

https://www.tekton.com/wrenches/torque-wrenches

https://www.tekton.com/about-us

When my old Matco gave up the ghost, I tried a Tekton 3/8" just for S&Gs. After all, it's cheap. (Guzzi content) I've checked it against my beam wrench over the years, and it's as good as clickers get. <shrug>
Yes, I keep it unloaded like any clicker.
Title: Re: Looking for a good torque wrench
Post by: amamet on July 08, 2021, 08:33:58 AM
I rebuilt my 77 lemans with a 3/8” digital snap on.  I am actually going to sell it because i now have 2.  If your interested, get back to me.  I’m away from home till next week.  It was recalibrated by snap on before i started rebuilding the bike