Wildguzzi.com
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Scout63 on July 27, 2021, 10:07:09 PM
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I know nothing about these bikes but it looks cool. Also looks like a real biker seller. Are they good bikes? I’m not in the market just curious.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324727451934
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Desirable because they have Ohlins forks and shock. Undesirable because they had a single-plate clutch setup, which usually failed, sometimes catastrophically. Don’t know what the seller means by “relined clutch.” Unless the clutch on this bike has been replaced with the multi-plate setup, the price should reflect the cost of making the swap.
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I think Chuck in Indiana has one, so that leads me to believe that they are good bikes. He has a G5, so my guess is that he knows what he's talking about :wink:
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My friend David(Leafman) had a Scura and said it was the best shifting bike he'd ever owned and he never changed the clutch plates. I think he put about 30,000 miles on that bike and the only problem he had was with the flaking engine/transmission paint which he addressed with some rattle can paint made by Harley Davidson. The servicing of the Ohlins shocks is not cheap and it was thought that keeping it on the center stand lessoned the chance of the left fork leaking.
Any of the Ohlins bikes are worth owning, I had an 03 Rosso and put about 30K on that bike with only the usual speedo trouble, which isn't an issue on the Scura.
Looks like the owner addressed the clutch on this Scura.
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Here’s Roper on the issue:
Nobody is suggesting that the twin plate clutch *Never* fails. The problem with the single plater is the flywheel part and the reason why it of such great concern is that it's disintegration can be catastrophic and very dangerous.
When the twin plate units fail it is generally the centres ripping out of the plates or the friction material delaminating from their backing. While annoying this generally results in the bike just failing to proceed.
With the single plate flywheel the tendency is for the wheel to shatter. There is a lot of energy tied up in a spinning flywheel and the point at which it is most likely to shatter is when it is most stresses which is when it is spinning fast!
Obviously it's all a matter of personal choice but the FIRST thing I did when I bought the bike that is now Chuck's is replace the single plater. The last thing I wanted was to be blasting across west Texas and suddenly have the flywheel come apart a few inches away from my wedding tackle!
To be honest I always felt the benefits of RAM units, even when fibre plates were still available, were over rated. I found using an Ergal flywheel with a lightened ring gear or simply the stock later steel wheel and a similarly lightened ring gear offered performance indistinguishable, (To me.) from the single plater.
Nowadays I believe you can only get the RAM units with a sintered bronze plate which has a lifespan of only hundreds of miles! I sure as eggs are eggs wouldn't be wanting to pull the gearbox every couple of thousand miles or clutch engagements!
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Don't get me wrong, if it was my bike I'd change the flywheel/plates and suggested so to David but he was adamant about keeping it as is.
I think the bike was sold to a young guy in Kansas if I remember correctly and David told him of the issue but he rode that bike from Alabama to his home in Kansas with his girlfriend in the pace car.
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Don't get me wrong, if it was my bike I'd change the flywheel/plates and suggested so to David but he was adamant about keeping it as is.
Agreed 100%...that's what I did...had MPH replace the original single plate clutch a few years ago to avoid the inevitable failure, been perfect since then. Mike was able to find a single plate California (I think) flywheel...can ride it as hard as I like w/o worrying about it grenading at some point.
By all means jump on the bike and negotiate the price to cover both flywheel and also a Roper sump plate (highly recommended).
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I had #599, it was like a mid evil torture device at over 200 miles or so. (to me) But they LOOK MAHVELOUS!
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For me, 50 miles or one hour, whichever came first. And that was on my Cafe Sport with the higher handlebars.
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It's a shame this bike lives somewhere with no curves... look at that rear tire :-(