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Title: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: JJ on August 14, 2021, 10:58:52 AM
Would LOVE to have this legendary beauty in my garage....(*SIGH*)...."Oh my...."  :thumb: :boozing: :cool:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-triumph-bonneville-2/
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Rough Edge racing on August 14, 2021, 11:43:31 AM
 JJ, you are drooling over the old Triumphs, You need to buy one right now... :grin:
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: ohiorider on August 14, 2021, 12:13:20 PM
Here's a beauty I photographed on a visit to AZ in 2009.  Pics taken at CAF Museum in Mesa Arizona.  Timeless machines!

Bob


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Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: JJ on August 14, 2021, 01:26:55 PM
JJ, you are drooling over the old Triumphs, You need to buy one right now... :grin:

I know...I am pathetic when it comes to vintage, Meriden Triumphs...and I ain't getting any younger... :rolleyes: :shocked:  Maybe next year (?)  This spring, we had to get a new SUV...so there went that money.  Oh well...

Bottom-line, one needs to go about $8K-$10K for a nice, sorted example.  I know of a nice original down in Cottonwood that I have looked at twice.  We'll see...

When you are retired, on a fixed income, on Social Security / Medicare / etc., you tend to get more practical when it comes to emotional purchases.... :laugh: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: JJ on August 14, 2021, 01:34:14 PM
...and here is just ANOTHER example of my mantra..."If You Want To Play...Then Ya Gotta PAY!!" :wink:

Oh...don't forget to ADD $892.50 (5%) for Buyers Premium!! :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:


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Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: yogidozer on August 14, 2021, 03:14:10 PM
JJ, there's a few on ebay now. Look reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Rough Edge racing on August 14, 2021, 03:41:58 PM
I know...I am pathetic when it comes to vintage, Meriden Triumphs...and I ain't getting any younger... :rolleyes: :shocked:  Maybe next year (?)  This spring, we had to get a new SUV...so there went that money.  Oh well...

Bottom-line, one needs to go about $8K-$10K for a nice, sorted example.  I know of a nice original down in Cottonwood that I have looked at twice.  We'll see...

When you are retired, on a fixed income, on Social Security / Medicare / etc., you tend to get more practical when it comes to emotional purchases.... :laugh: :grin: :wink:
I'm the same ,retired and so on....We don't have new vehicles, take vacations costing as much as a motorcycle or slaves to fashion and the latest trends.
 You need the bike...Forget the glitter of a restored or more often over restored bike...Buy a well sorted bike with a less than perfect finish.Triumphs are supposed to be a machine. showing signs of use and chips in the finish from wrenching  ..And do all maintenance yourself..Oh, make sure you can kick start it, lol...
  Triumph, a lusty kick start, the roar of the engine, a puff of blue smoke, the crunch into first gear, taking off spitting gravel and on to whatever adventure is next...
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: JJ on August 14, 2021, 06:06:13 PM
JJ, there's a few on ebay now. Look reasonably priced.

Yes...ALL reasonable...but these are also "OIF" (Oil-in-Frame), and I would prefer a "stock" one from the 1967-1970 era...which did NOT have the OIF... Those years, IMHO were the apex of the model years... :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing:


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Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Scout63 on August 14, 2021, 09:18:34 PM
I’m with you JJ. I’ve never had a Triumph but I like the pre oil in frame models. I would buy local and stay away from BaT.   There are a lot of triumphs around, at least in this part of the country. You should be able to get a good rider for 5-7k.  If Triumphs move the soul like Norton’s, it will be money well spent.
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Muzz on August 14, 2021, 09:59:50 PM
Yes...ALL reasonable...but these are also "OIF" (Oil-in-Frame), and I would prefer a "stock" one from the 1967-1970 era...which did NOT have the OIF... Those years, IMHO were the apex of the model years... :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing:


I would have to agree JJ.  I could even go '65-70.
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: JJ on August 14, 2021, 10:17:40 PM
I would have to agree JJ.  I could even go '65-70.

Yes...I would concur...Look at this beauty...."Oh My!!" :laugh: :grin: :wink: :bow: :thumb: :cool: :boozing:


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Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: reidy on August 15, 2021, 03:24:37 AM
Out of curiosity, why are pre Oil in Frame models considered more desirable. Did they handle better, built better or some other reason.

Thanks

Steve
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: JJ on August 15, 2021, 10:19:19 PM
QUOTE:  The OIF models had some advantages , the 5 speed introduced in '73(?) was better than the older 4 speed , and the frames were a little stiffer .

....Then, there were the added disc brakes...
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Tim Henry on August 15, 2021, 11:58:17 PM

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  this was my 69 Bonneville had it for a dozen years even as a daily rider to answer one question regarding oil in frame models the seat height I recall was slightly higher, 69 also was year they started using sae fasteners so easier for Americans to wrench on atleast it was for my limited tool box
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Rough Edge racing on August 16, 2021, 06:58:05 AM
 For me ,this is what a well sorted OIF looks like. I made a few modifications on this 79 750....2000 Honda CBR front forks, fabricated rear set pegs, Ducati 320mm front disc and Brembo caliper, revised cam timing, tightened piston to head squish, 34mm Mikuni flat slide carbs, aftermarket 7 plate clutch, Supertrall on stock two into one pipe ,and so on..This bike is faster than stock 1200 Sportsters, Nortons, and many Guzzis. It handles as if by thought....To most it appears as a stock vintage Triumphs...careful engine assembly minimizes vibration but this is not intended to be a interstate cruiser. Not for every rider but it is for me and perhaps some of you...

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Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Rough Edge racing on August 16, 2021, 08:46:18 AM
Thanks, I never paid any attention to D models and OIF's in general because a preferred the  earlier models...Then I saw it on Ebay, an unrestored faded NYC bike, in a NY minute made an off line deal and drove down to Brooklyn to fetch it..
 Here I am with the seller , he has several vintage Triumphs, after just loading the bike into my truck. I'm the guy in the Triumph shirt, lol....
 Saw a lot of Ducatis in NYC......
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Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: JJ on August 16, 2021, 08:48:16 AM
That's a great photo!  Looks like a Viking Biker on a cool period Triumph!! 

:laugh: :grin: :wink: :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing: :smiley:



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Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Tim Henry on August 16, 2021, 06:36:58 PM
Funny story about the year that was taken in 95 I had a farm in pleasant shade Tennessee and Gore senior used to live on it back in the late 20s early 30s when he was a school teacher.
Well our first meeting he told me about AL Jr.and Tipper used to ride and he said he had long hair too is said no way so he invited me and my family over to his house and showed me the picture it was only to his collar but for them that was long and btw miss Pauline didn't like me but I was over many times
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: rudyr on August 16, 2021, 07:38:14 PM
I haven’t read all the post, but I sure some one has already said something about the concentric carbi..  should be monoblocqk carbi. I know 1964 was first year for unit construction shipped to USA.  I know with painfull remembernce with the calf. CH P & FBI. Over my 64 Triumph with DRF Ser.No. Ask me some day about my dealing with state an Fed. During my exciting time I had in calf. during the 60 th.Rudy
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: Rough Edge racing on August 19, 2021, 11:04:58 AM
 Here you go..Not all dressed in fancy paint and chrome but it is a Triumph. Sure it's missing a few pieces and the head not a dual carb but it'll do everything a Triumph is supposed to do. And if you actually ride it you won't be fretting over chips in the paint ..job....https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Triumph-Bonneville-/174894533953?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0







   
Title: Re: Fabulous vintage Triumph...
Post by: tpeever on August 20, 2021, 10:13:24 AM
Out of curiosity, why are pre Oil in Frame models considered more desirable. Did they handle better, built better or some other reason.

Thanks

Steve

Mostly because they look prettier to most eyes. I have owned two Triumph TR6C's, a 1972 OIF model and a 1967 model. IMO, the '72 was the better bike. Stiffer frame, better handling, and better braking. The OIF models can be made to look like the earlier models (to an extent) by changing out the sidecovers. If I wanted to initiate myself in the world of vintage Triumph, I would not hesitate to own an OIF model.