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Title: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 27, 2021, 04:02:10 AM
Enzo called yesterday morning to tell me that my V7-850 Stone Centenario had just been dropped off.  I am ready to roll out of the driveway to make the 6 hour drive to Cincinnati. 

More to follow.

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Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on August 27, 2021, 05:08:04 AM
Fantastic Dave! Go get it!
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: greer on August 27, 2021, 05:43:57 AM
 :thumb: 

Sarah
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: GuzziOrDeath on August 27, 2021, 05:54:54 AM

Excellent! Say G'day to Enzo for me.


Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: blu guzz on August 27, 2021, 07:02:07 AM
May the wind be always at your back.  Enjoy your trip.  Your trade looks pretty tasty.  I am sure it will find a new home in our area pretty quickly.  Cadre does a great job selling the used bikes.  They price them fairly and sell them quickly, especially used Guzzis. 
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Cam3512 on August 27, 2021, 07:16:07 AM
Way to go Dave.  Now when you get the 850 home, pack it up and join us at the Ohio rally over Labor Day weekend. 

Cam
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: inditx on August 27, 2021, 07:33:07 AM
 :thumb:
Full pics and review required.
inditx
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: vintagehoarder on August 27, 2021, 12:42:25 PM
Safe travels, Enzo and the team are the best!  You trading that one in?  Deb has the same bike, love that color scheme.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on August 27, 2021, 01:53:26 PM
Way to go Dave.  Now when you get the 850 home, pack it up and join us at the Ohio rally over Labor Day weekend. 

Cam

Good plan.. :thumb:
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 27, 2021, 09:01:10 PM
What a day!!

I left at 4 am to beat the Chicago madness.  I didn't realize that lots of Cannonball Run/ Mad Max wannabees use the highways at that hour for careening from one side of the highway to another at well over 100 mph from everything to sports jobs to Honda Accords!  NUTS.   Even some of the semis join in the "fun". 

400 miles later I arrive at Cadre and am helped with unloading my V7.   Everyone including Enzo thought my V7 was super nice, and it is of course. 

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Enzo was busy accepting cash from another customer so I kept my self busy taking in the well appointed shop.

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Soon it was my time in the hot seat.   :grin:  We had a great conversation, mostly about Guzzi - no surprise.  Enzo is certainly a guy any of us would like to hang out with and talk bikes!

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Even though the bike was delivered yesterday the crew had it all ready for me yesterday afternoon.  Here we are just before loading my new baby in the van.

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Another 400 mile drive home!  I was home before dark and of course had to unload and take it for a spin.  I only put about 10 miles on it but it is very much a grin producing machine, even thought the shift warning blinks at you at 4500 rpm (until first service). This will definitely be a great bike, I can tell already.  Once I can open it up and give it a good romp it will feel like a hooligan "lite" bike.

It is on the lift ready for the Mistrals.  The sewing machine sound must go.  :evil:

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Off to the sack!  I am beat!

Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Muzz on August 27, 2021, 10:08:33 PM
Very nice Dave.  Should be a very nice machine.

Enjoy. :thumb:
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: twowings on August 28, 2021, 02:38:09 AM
Gorgeous bike! Congrats  :thumb:

Cadre sounds like a dream dealer in  much the same vein as Jim Hamlin. 400 miles is nothing when you can get service like that.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: greer on August 28, 2021, 04:36:11 AM
 :bike-037:

Sarah
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: blu guzz on August 28, 2021, 06:43:36 AM
great looking scoot. i am not thinking of letting go of the v85, but when i test rode the new V7, i was totally impressed. you will be too.  it just seems to work so much better on every level than the already good, but getting long in the tooth 750 versions.

i have known Enzo (Cadre)  since he was selling BMW bikes at the late, great BMW of Cincinnati in the early 2000s.  Of course, he was younger and better looking in those days (weren't we all).  I bought a 2004 RT from him then and honestly, he was just the same as today when it came to the transaction.  i am sure that he had in mind then what this dealer has become now.  he and his crew are all enthusiasts for the brand.  all in.
we have a new guzzi dealer in the Mt. Sterling/Winchester, KY area, Gateway Cycles.  i have not had a chance to get there, but like cadre's path, they started as a used bike dealer.  my son bought a used africa twin from them and reported a very good experience, so hopefully it is the same for guzzi.  what an abundance of riches to have two good dealers within 100 miles of home. not bragging, just feeling fortunate.
for some reason it seems that some dealers have better luck dealing with piaggio than others.  i hope Gateway figures out the right way to massage them.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 28, 2021, 06:56:07 AM
great looking scoot. i am not thinking of letting go of the v85, but when i test rode the new V7, i was totally impressed. you will be too.  it just seems to work so much better on every level than the already good, but getting long in the tooth 750 versions.


I had no intention of shifting off my beloved V7.  It had been one of my all time favorites.  I test rode a V7-850 at the National just after getting off a lengthy day ride on my 2015.  Jim Hamlin told me to "be prepared to be impressed".   I was really hoping it wasn't going to be that big of a deal and I would return from the test ride with no desire to upgrade.   The improvements over the old V7 was just too much to deny. 
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on August 28, 2021, 07:08:22 AM
Congrats, Dave.. and thanks for the tour. I've never made it to Enzo's yet..
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Moparnut72 on August 28, 2021, 09:05:30 AM
I had no intention of shifting off my beloved V7.  It had been one of my all time favorites.  I test rode a V7-850 at the National just after getting off a lengthy day ride on my 2015.  Jim Hamlin told me to "be prepared to be impressed".   I was really hoping it wasn't going to be that big of a deal and I would return from the test ride with no desire to upgrade.   The improvements over the old V7 was just too much to deny.
Don't be telling me this. I might do something drastic.  :violent1:  The blue sure is pretty.    :grin:
kk
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Markcarovilli on August 28, 2021, 10:51:23 AM
Dave - congrats beautiful bike to add to your already impressive collection.  Best of luck with it…

Mark
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: 80CX100 on August 28, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
Congrats on the new bike Dave, very sweet!

I like your thinking re the Mistrals, please post photos and ride reports.

 :bike-037:
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Roebling3 on August 28, 2021, 04:55:36 PM
Congratulations and best wishes, Dave. Safe travels, all ways. 

Anyone know the wet weight of Dave's new machine?  R3~  tia.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: SED on August 28, 2021, 06:23:21 PM
Congrats Dave.  Nice looking bike and the photo documentation is fun.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Cam3512 on August 28, 2021, 08:07:21 PM
Congratulations and best wishes, Dave. Safe travels, all ways. 

Anyone know the wet weight of Dave's new machine?  R3~  tia.

Gotta weigh as much or slightly more than your Racer Bud. 
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: rschrum on August 28, 2021, 10:56:34 PM
They forgot to paint the tank green.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 29, 2021, 05:34:01 AM
Congratulations and best wishes, Dave. Safe travels, all ways. 

Anyone know the wet weight of Dave's new machine?  R3~  tia.

Dry 436 lb
Wet 480 lb

When I change out the stock exhaust to Mistrals today those numbers will drop by 10 lbs.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 29, 2021, 05:38:58 AM
Don't be telling me this. I might do something drastic.  :violent1:  The blue sure is pretty.    :grin:
kk

Enzo has one available!   :evil:  I thought quite awhile about going for the blue Special, but the Centenario has always been the one that I knew I would get if I went for it.

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Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 29, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
Mistrals are on and sound good with the db killers in.  They are a bit quieter than the Mistrals on my earlier V7 as they have built in catalytic converters to maintain Euro 5 emission standards.  I will probably experiment with the db killers out and see how they sound.  I never bothered taking the db killers out of the old V7 as I thought the volume was about right.   This is a super fun bike!!

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Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Chethro on August 29, 2021, 03:01:59 PM
That really looks good!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: bad Chad on August 29, 2021, 04:00:31 PM
The Mustrals have cats??
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 29, 2021, 04:02:37 PM
The Mustrals have cats??

Yes.  The new Mistrals are Euro 5 compliant
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: bad Chad on August 29, 2021, 08:23:31 PM
Fascinating.  I wonder how they shed a full 10lb and still incorporate catalytic converters?   
Perhaps I’m looking at something different, but MG Cycle list them as “off road only”.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 29, 2021, 08:33:52 PM
Fascinating.  I wonder how they shed a full 10lb and still incorporate catalytic converters?   
Perhaps I’m looking at something different, but MG Cycle list them as “off road only”.

Yes,  "off road only" has been the legal weasel out language to appease the EPA noise level requirement for quite a few years for aftermarket pipes.    All or most all aftermarket mufflers you buy will have that language.  Of course no one pays attention, but it keeps the Mistral folks out of jail, along with Vance and Hines and all the others.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: bad Chad on August 29, 2021, 09:33:06 PM
Indeed. But what info do you have that indicates your mistrals have cats?
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 30, 2021, 05:39:59 AM
Indeed. But what info do you have that indicates your mistrals have cats?

You can see the cat and this.

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Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: bad Chad on August 30, 2021, 03:13:47 PM
Well I’ll be darned.

I figured that like Agostine, they wouldn’t bother with cats,  and I figured wrong.
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: greer on August 31, 2021, 05:56:25 AM
It would be interesting to know the details on this one:

https://gtmotocycles.com/collections/exhaust/products/agostini-v7-850-e5-short-mufflers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIuwY2RH3Jk

Sarah
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 31, 2021, 08:07:14 AM
It would be interesting to know the details on this one:

https://gtmotocycles.com/collections/exhaust/products/agostini-v7-850-e5-short-mufflers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIuwY2RH3Jk

Sarah

I have been looking but cannot find specifics on the Agostini as I cannot find their website.  The owner of Guzzitech commented that the Agostini's were made by Mistral on his forum and was expecting them to be available soon. 
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 31, 2021, 08:56:43 AM
I found a blurb about the V7-850 Agostinis.  They will not be E5 compliant therefore we can assume there will be no integral catalyst and should sound a bit more fruity with the db killer in than the Mistral.   :azn:
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: motogoro on August 31, 2021, 08:57:37 AM
Dave, how is the suspension compared to your 'earlier V7'? 

old bones would like to know ;-)
Title: Re: Heading Out To Cadre
Post by: Dave Swanson on August 31, 2021, 09:02:39 AM
Dave, how is the suspension compared to your 'earlier V7'? 

old bones would like to know ;-)

Much improved!  The V7 rear shocks were like riding a buckboard!!  My back required a shock upgrade immediately!

I am not the most discerning or discriminating guy when it comes to suspension, but I do not have any compelling reason to upgrade the stock V7-850 setup.  I will leave it alone.  I weigh 200 lbs and have the rear shocks set at 2 clicks up from the softest setting.  This seems just right.