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Title: Breva Startup
Post by: nsmith on September 20, 2021, 08:22:13 AM
2007 Breva 1100 2 valve, 40k miles. She has become hard to start. Always been a one button push to run bike, now she runs through the sequence and stops turning over, I cycle the key to run the fuel pump again and hit the start button again, the third go around and she starts and runs just fine. I checked the valve settings no adjustment needed, replaced the outboard spark plugs but still the same. Any thoughts on this would be awesome. Thanks.
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: acogoff on September 20, 2021, 08:39:16 AM
     Is there a fuel filter on that thing? Are not those the ones who had the swelling plastic half of the filter, or was it the swelling of the non submersible hose that was submerged in fuel the tank.
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: tris on September 20, 2021, 08:48:52 AM
I was thinking about a fuel leak too

Injectors or fuel line to the injectors?
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: guzzisteve on September 20, 2021, 09:06:32 AM
If it is an electrical issue(starter stops or doesn't work) you may need to clean pin connectors on relays or switches & ECU plugs. If it cranks but no start and never been serviced, time to have it done. All the filters & clean TBs.
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: nsmith on September 20, 2021, 09:34:55 AM
fuel filter was replaced with all metal one. There is no external fuel leak that I'm aware of. Once the bike starts it will start right up the rest of the day the the next morning it gets all picky again. Seems to be cranking just fine but I'm gonna load test the battery today.
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: Bisbonian on September 20, 2021, 09:43:17 AM
My 1200 Sport was sensitive to battery condition and connections. Make sure the battery is good and the connections are tight.
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on September 20, 2021, 10:31:20 AM
The Brevas were prone to Startus interrupts failure (too much Voltage drop in the feed to start relay) but it seems as though yours is cranking ok, have you added an MPH kit?
https://www.thisoldtractor.com/guzzi007/schematics/2005_Breva_1100.gif
Measure the battery Voltage while the bike is cranking over, should be over 9 Volts otherwise it may be too low for the ECU and Ignition/Injection

Do you have one of those battery testers that allows you to select the Cold Cranking Amps (CCA)
The standard setting for a car battery is 400 CCA, that's too high for a motorcycle battery, should be 200 CCA.
I'm just pointing out that if you test it on the 400 Amps range it will show as weak
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: nsmith on September 20, 2021, 11:35:17 AM
Ok, volts DC while cranking 9.6 battery tester reads weak on the low side next to poor. I guess it must be battery time. I can't remember how old this battery is so might as well bite the bullet. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on September 20, 2021, 05:04:45 PM
Ok, volts DC while cranking 9.6 battery tester reads weak on the low side next to poor. I guess it must be battery time. I can't remember how old this battery is so might as well bite the bullet. Thanks guys.
The default setting for many battery testers is 400 CCA (as for a car battery) that is too much for a motorcycle battery and it will show weak.
For m/c battery you need to set the tester on 200 CCA, mine always defaults back to 400.
9.6 Volts seems pretty good, it would be a good data point if you could do the same test with your new battery after its had a charge.
Title: Re: Breva Startup
Post by: nsmith on September 22, 2021, 09:14:48 AM
I put the Breva on a battery charger and the bike fired up like it should. I'm calling the battery done. Thanks for the help guys.