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Title: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: JJ on December 13, 2021, 05:19:00 PM
 :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh: :wink: :cool: :boozing: :smiley:


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Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: LesP on December 13, 2021, 06:26:37 PM
The second one this week like that.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-moto-guzzi-eldorado-850-6/

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The last one with the subframe cut off then lay down shocks would have allowed wheel contact with the seat, this one, maybe the universal will be the travel limit.
Using all the front fork travel might be interesting also. (for folk watching from a safe distance  :laugh:)

Its the thought that counts and all about the 'build.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 13, 2021, 08:03:57 PM
The entry on the Loop List:

59940    Eldorado    059940    059940    1973    Temecula    California    United States       Rough condition, engine stuck, no fuel tank, eBay March 2018

So at least the builder didn't molest a nice, complete, original.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: JJ on December 14, 2021, 07:44:03 AM
How would you like to ride 500-600+ miles in one day on THAT seat?!? 

:laugh: :grin: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:


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Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: guzziart on December 14, 2021, 09:01:19 AM
How would you like to ride 500-600+ miles in one day on THAT seat?!? 

:laugh: :grin: :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:


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Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Gliderjohn on December 14, 2021, 09:36:20 AM
Maybe change that to 5-6 miles a day. In its defense I don't think it was built as a touring bike.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: larrys on December 14, 2021, 09:50:57 AM
With a few changes, fenders, seat, and handlebars, it would be a cool bobber that you could put some miles on.
Larry
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 14, 2021, 11:31:09 AM
With a few changes, fenders, seat, and handlebars, it would be a cool bobber that you could put some miles on.
Larry

And maybe hook up the rear brakes?  :shocked:
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: LesP on December 14, 2021, 04:30:47 PM
I would still be somewhat concerned about the possibility of hitting hard parts at the front end at full travel or the now 8+ inches of rear suspension (if the universal didn't bind first or wheel start to eat the seat)

In the auction replies the main subject seems to be exhaust wrap.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: moto-uno on December 17, 2021, 04:42:19 AM
The fuel tank is worth more than the asking price . Peter
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 17, 2021, 08:17:30 AM
The fuel tank is worth more than the asking price . Peter

More than the current bid ($1000)? Maybe. More than his reserve (which is really his "asking price" and I'm betting is quite high)? No.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Moparnut72 on December 17, 2021, 09:39:56 AM
This was featured on ADV this morning.  It got beat up on in the comments section. How could someone tear up one of these. I haven't read the sale material but do they know what he started with? I could have been a box of parts. It's not my type of bike anymore but I like it.
kk
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 17, 2021, 04:00:29 PM
This was featured on ADV this morning.  It got beat up on in the comments section. How could someone tear up one of these. I haven't read the sale material but do they know what he started with? I could have been a box of parts. It's not my type of bike anymore but I like it.
kk

As I wrote...
The entry on the Loop List:

59940    Eldorado    059940    059940    1973    Temecula    California    United States       Rough condition, engine stuck, no fuel tank, eBay March 2018

So at least the builder didn't molest a nice, complete, original.

Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: JBU on December 17, 2021, 04:38:15 PM
It seems like the seller claims he has owned it since 2005.  Reading the sellers comments on  Bringatrailer I am wary about everything he says.  In my eyes, and I am no expert,  I see a motor, transmission and rear drive that is original and salvageable.  It looks like the frame is butchered, the tank is cool and can be sold , the forks might worth some money too.  Basically a basket case you have some good parts but you are missing quite a bit.  Or just ride it like it is. 
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 17, 2021, 05:21:05 PM
It seems like the seller claims he has owned it since 2005.  Reading the sellers comments on  Bringatrailer I am wary about everything he says.  In my eyes, and I am no expert,  I see a motor, transmission and rear drive that is original and salvageable.  It looks like the frame is butchered, the tank is cool and can be sold , the forks might worth some money too.  Basically a basket case you have some good parts but you are missing quite a bit.  Or just ride it like it is.

He has owned it since '05, but put it on ebay in March 2018. It didn't sell then, and I predict that it won't meet reserve this time around either. I have enough stuff laying around to put it back to stock.  :wink:
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Canuck750 on December 17, 2021, 06:41:21 PM
And maybe hook up the rear brakes?  :shocked:


 :rolleyes: you think the seller would have at least have a functioning rear brake!

Seller probably has at least $3K into it, the rear shock / wheel travel looks questionable IMHO.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: JJ on December 18, 2021, 05:16:20 PM

 :rolleyes: you think the seller would have at least have a functioning rear brake!

Seller probably has at least $3K into it, the rear shock / wheel travel looks questionable IMHO.

Brakes...or no brakes... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:...@  :huh:$4,000 now...with two (2) days still to GO!! :shocked:


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Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 20, 2021, 09:25:54 PM
As I predicted...

He has owned it since '05, but put it on ebay in March 2018. It didn't sell then, and I predict that it won't meet reserve this time around either. I have enough stuff laying around to put it back to stock.  :wink:

Bid to $4100 and didn't meet reserve.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Scout63 on December 20, 2021, 10:11:45 PM
Don’t get me started on reserves...
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Turin on December 21, 2021, 11:28:33 PM
I could do with out all of the hyperbole in the comments section.

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Anybody can ride a bike in a straight line. Good riders can take the corners fast under control. This bike is for those that like to corner fast. Guzzi engines are SWEET, free revving, torquey, and combined with modern forks , brakes and suspension with properly engineered geometry like this one has with modified rear frame for the better rear shock geometry. No stock Guzzi handles like this one. And you have an engine with USABLE horsepower, super reliable, cheap and easy to maintain. Classic one of a kind looks. This bike has it ALL.

Looks like he fixed the rear brake.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: nc43bsa on December 22, 2021, 02:14:06 AM
Not to pick nits, among the other things, but those look like BSA mufflers, not Triumph.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Dimples on December 22, 2021, 06:09:05 AM

This is now listed on eBay with a reserve.
BaT won't resist if a vehicle doesn't sell.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: JJ on December 22, 2021, 07:56:04 AM
This is now listed on eBay with a reserve.
BaT won't resist if a vehicle doesn't sell.

"BID" to $4,100?!? - - - and NO SALE on BaT.... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:

What does the seller really expect to get for this bike????? :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:


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Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 26, 2021, 09:35:03 PM
Bid to $5551.00 on ebay and still didn't meet reserve.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224752366079
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Scout63 on December 26, 2021, 10:05:31 PM
I went back and read the Seller’s comments in the BaT listing and came away annoyed. My old Guzzis are more competent in the corners than I am, but there has been almost half a decade of improvements in motorcycle design.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on December 27, 2021, 05:53:46 AM
I went back and read the Seller’s comments in the BaT listing and came away annoyed. My old Guzzis are more competent in the corners than I am, but there has been almost half a decade of improvements in motorcycle design.

Not to mention be basically says anyone who doesnt like his build can't ride a curve, that all old loops handle like shit, and he has updated it to modern superbike suspension, stopping, and handling... yet it had no rear brake and those ridiculous tires. He seemed like a real dick.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: John A on December 27, 2021, 07:22:10 AM
Looks like the rear of the seat would fold down with normal use.
Title: Re: Modified '73 850 Eldo on BaT...
Post by: JJ on December 27, 2021, 07:53:31 AM
BID to $4,100??!!?? - - and did not sell?!? - - IMHO, these three bikes represent a much better value, overall. :wink:


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