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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: inditx on February 02, 2022, 04:48:21 PM
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Due to weather I won''t be able to pick it up for a bit but I “shook hands” on this one today.
Be kind as I’ve heard all the maintenance woes. :lipsrsealed:
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inditx
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I've always loved the look of the Scramblers, especially in the classic yellow. Nice going and please let us know how you like it.
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Thanks will do!
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That's a nice looking bike!
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If it's anything like Jenn's Monster in sure you'll love it.
Enjoy!
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I've had 4 Ducati's and I think the maintenance stories are just fun stories for non Ducati owners to spread around. :grin:
Checking the valve clearance isn't hard. Adjusting them is different from any other bike. Several youtube videos on how to do it, not really hard, just different. And many times the clearance is OK so no need to adjust them.
And the cam belt breaking thing ... I asked a Ducati expert repair shop how many bikes they've seen with broken cam belts, they said 1 or 2, and that was back in like 1992 before the belts had Kevlar in them ... and zero since the belts went to Kevlar.
So not really an issue.
Congrats on the "new" bike! :thumb:
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If it's anything like Jenn's Monster in sure you'll love it.
Enjoy!
Thanks Kev m and usedtobefast!
inditx
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congrats.
I've enjoyed my Ducati more than any bike I've owned. Hope you do too.
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I enjoyed my test rides. Wouldn't mind a desert sled.
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I have had 5, still have 2. No maintenance problems I couldn't handle. Think you will like it.
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The air cooled 1100 is a great engine.. One of my all time favorite V-twins Best fuel mileage of any big bore unit I have owned. Low end grunt is additive, Fit, and finish was excellent too..
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You will love it. I bought mine as a bucket list purchase. Never had one, always thought they were cool, etc. It's put excitement back into riding for me.
Larry
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I've had 4 Ducati's and I think the maintenance stories are just fun stories for non Ducati owners to spread around. :grin:
Checking the valve clearance isn't hard. Adjusting them is different from any other bike. Several youtube videos on how to do it, not really hard, just different. And many times the clearance is OK so no need to adjust them.
And the cam belt breaking thing ... I asked a Ducati expert repair shop how many bikes they've seen with broken cam belts, they said 1 or 2, and that was back in like 1992 before the belts had Kevlar in them ... and zero since the belts went to Kevlar.
So not really an issue.
Congrats on the "new" bike! :thumb:
Agreed. The air cooled ducs are great engines and easily serviceable. You don’t need to be a genius to service them. My last Monster 1000 was a bit too “fast” and encouraged me to ride like a delinquent. The injected 800s are perfect road bikes.
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I've had 4 Ducati's and I think the maintenance stories are just fun stories for non Ducati owners to spread around. :grin:
Checking the valve clearance isn't hard. Adjusting them is different from any other bike. Several youtube videos on how to do it, not really hard, just different. And many times the clearance is OK so no need to adjust them.
And the cam belt breaking thing ... I asked a Ducati expert repair shop how many bikes they've seen with broken cam belts, they said 1 or 2, and that was back in like 1992 before the belts had Kevlar in them ... and zero since the belts went to Kevlar.
So not really an issue.
Congrats on the "new" bike! :thumb:
of course if it does break you'll pretty much need a whole new engine.I'd follow the factory recommendation.
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of course if it does break you'll pretty much need a whole new engine.I'd follow the factory recommendation.
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OPINION INCOMING.
The factory recommendation is beyond ridiculously conservative, and I've confirmed this with a number of very experienced Ducati techs.
The belts are recommended to be replaced every 2 years, but they are manufactured by Gates who recommends 10 years on that same belt material in other applications.
My local guys always recommended at least doubling the factory 2 years.
I personally run ~5 years on them, but with full disclosure, the bike is pampered - I mean it only averages about 1500 miles a year, generally in good weather, isn't bounced off the rev limiter much, kept in an insulated/attached garage etc.
I might be more aggressive with one that is ridden harder, more often, and/or kept under ambient conditions that are more harsh.
If I was say putting enough miles on it yearly for yearly clearance checks, I would be much more likely to go somewhere closer to the 2 years.
YMMV etc.
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CONGRATULATIONS on acquiring this fine machine!! :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing: I have always liked these.
You will have fun, no doubt, and I too, have also always believed the horror stories about Ducati maintenance issues are totally blown out of proportion. :wink:
Ride it and enjoy it...and don't look back!! :cool: :boozing: :thumb:
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Congrats on the new DUC. I agree that you should love it. Servicing the valve train can be a little intimidating the first time, especially compared to Guzzi's. I strongly recommend getting LT Snyders maintenance manual for the 2 valve Ducati's. It's available on his website: www.desmotimes.com.
Lots of useful step by step instruction with pictures and some video links.
Steve M
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I've owned several Ducatis and have never had a bit of trouble with any of them. Just sold my first-gen. aircooled Multistrada with 30,000 miles on it. A great bike I will miss. Like others have said, I change the timing belts every 5 years. I know from experience it's the tensioner bearings that tend to be a problem that can lead to belt failure. If the tensioner starts to seize up, the belt will slide and the friction and heat will cause the belt to fail in short order. Never broke a belt but have had a close call with a seized tensioner bearing that I luckily caught in time.
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Congrats on the new DUC. I agree that you should love it. Servicing the valve train can be a little intimidating the first time, especially compared to Guzzi's. I strongly recommend getting LT Snyders maintenance manual for the 2 valve Ducati's. It's available on his website: www.desmotimes.com.
Lots of useful step by step instruction with pictures and some video links.
Steve M
Just ordered that manual. Thanks, been looking for a shop manual for the Monster.
Larry
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OPINION INCOMING.
The factory recommendation is beyond ridiculously conservative, and I've confirmed this with a number of very experienced Ducati techs.
The belts are recommended to be replaced every 2 years, but they are manufactured by Gates who recommends 10 years on that same belt material in other applications.
My local guys always recommended at least doubling the factory 2 years.
I personally run ~5 years on them, but with full disclosure, the bike is pampered - I mean it only averages about 1500 miles a year, generally in good weather, isn't bounced off the rev limiter much, kept in an insulated/attached garage etc.
I might be more aggressive with one that is ridden harder, more often, and/or kept under ambient conditions that are more harsh.
If I was say putting enough miles on it yearly for yearly clearance checks, I would be much more likely to go somewhere closer to the 2 years.
YMMV etc.
The book on my bike is 18k mile for belt changes. I'll caution anyone to shop around to the belts:
Duc belts from the dealer co$t $90 EACH. OTOH California Cycleworks has then for $60. I think CCW sells them for $45 for the air-cooled bikes. Considering how timing belts go 100k+ in a car, I'd agree that it's a conservative service interval but failure is not an option.
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I've had two Ducatis and loved them both. My last was an 1100 Hypermotard, which was a fabulous motorcycle. I only sold it because I wanted to travel/camp and the Hyper was just not that capable in that area. I sold it to a Deputy Sheriff... Hmmm. In retrospect, I should have kept it and bought something reasonable to take on weekend trips, but that's not what I did...
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The book on my bike is 18k mile for belt changes. I'll caution anyone to shop around to the belts:
same for my Hyperstrada 18k or FIVE years not two.
That name Hyper was just perfect, the bike was so many levels above any Guzzi it was like another world. Shoulda never sold it.
These belts had 6k
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-2Jg9CtD/0/d7c8b728/XL/2019071616404323-IMG_0175-XL.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-2Jg9CtD/A)
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-CPf7rRS/0/e8614f7c/L/2019082921585210--3254892989312816383-IMG_0316-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-CPf7rRS/A)
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Who knew people here were so reasonable?!? :boozing:
And yeah, Ducs are very cool and awesome to ride.
I still wouldn't own one if my wife didn't want/love it
Same is true for our Land Rover.
But crap they are both very capable, very cool, very fun, and I'm glad she lets me play with them.
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same for my Hyperstrada 18k or FIVE years not two.
That name Hyper was just perfect, the bike was so many levels above any Guzzi it was like another world. Shoulda never sold it.
These belts had 6k
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-2Jg9CtD/0/d7c8b728/XL/2019071616404323-IMG_0175-XL.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-2Jg9CtD/A)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-jPwQCtr/0/005b3ca4/L/2019071616404323-IMG_0176-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-jPwQCtr/A)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-CPf7rRS/0/e8614f7c/L/2019082921585210--3254892989312816383-IMG_0316-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Ducati/i-CPf7rRS/A)
it seems like you just bought it.
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I've owned several Ducatis and have never had a bit of trouble with any of them. Just sold my first-gen. aircooled Multistrada with 30,000 miles on it. A great bike I will miss. Like others have said, I change the timing belts every 5 years. I know from experience it's the tensioner bearings that tend to be a problem that can lead to belt failure. If the tensioner starts to seize up, the belt will slide and the friction and heat will cause the belt to fail in short order. Never broke a belt but have had a close call with a seized tensioner bearing that I luckily caught in time.
Yes that happened to a friend of mine on the way home from a long road trip. His tensioner started to seize up, and the warning it gave him was the smell of the belt. He made it home no problem, and then brought it to the shop.
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I have a belt SS, ST4 and 996 in addition to my bevel SS - I do like the 90s Cagiva-era belt drive bikes, but newer ones than that don’t turn me on much. Mine don’t get ridden a huge mileage and that is a factor in belt replacement. If you look at the shelf life for the belts, i.e. when they aren’t heated for long and are run a fraction of the specified replacement mileage, you’ll find it’s a whole lot longer than two years. In my experience and in my service they are good for 5-10 years, much like those on a Centauro etc, depending on how much the bike is ridden.
In the 90s it was fairly common to see broken belts on Ducatis, especially if ridden even a little bit over 12,000 miles. I was on several group rides where a snapped belt occurred, I can think of three or four now. Since then the Gates belts have improved a lot in quality and you don’t seem to see failures anymore on any age Ducati.
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Man, how do I tell my wife I need a scrambler?
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That Scrambler looks beautiful! You'll love it! I've most certainly been enjoying mine :grin:
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I do prefer enjoy my Guzzi, but in one of life's little ironies -- not entirely unrelated to questions of reliability and maintenance -- the Ducati is the one I'll have to enjoy for the moment until the shop can sort out whatever electrical gremlins have been causing the Guzzi to stop running without any warning at Inconvenient Moments.
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I’ve previously owned 3 Ducatis - a 1000DS MTS, a GT1000, and a MTS 1200. All wonderful bikes but I actually enjoyed the older 1000 engine the best and I suspect your Scrambler will be rewarding in same manner. Mostly very reliable machines as well. I drove my GT for 24k pleasing miles. Yes, I did sell it to get back on a Guzzi but that was when I was a 1 bike, no garage guy. No offense to the fine advice you’ll get from the red suspenders here but just kinda disregard all the “maintenance” meh that’s coming up. Good points? Yes. But I know this is not your only bike and because you’ll be spreading your miles out upon others as well, I suspect it will be easy for you to follow Duc’s service guidelines as per mileage and still not break the bank. Ride on dude I like that yellow. :thumb:
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You guys/gals are the best!
Thank you.
More comments welcome.
inditx
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Mine has Hyper pro suspension, medium rental bars, two brothers ( loud) exhaust, and a wind screen. Love it!
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Nice!
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best color on a Ducati is yellow!!
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My favorite, color.
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My favorite, color.
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Tri-color. Gorgeous! Too bad about that stupid nylon fuel tank though.
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Here is a link to a nice explanation and valve clearance adjustment steps: http://www.ducatitoolrental.com/scrambler-valve-adjustment2.html
And ca cycle works videos on how to do it (this are older, but still a 2 valve desmo):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj3nSJGPZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WQY1MRlmH4
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Here is a link to a nice explanation and valve clearance adjustment steps: http://www.ducatitoolrental.com/scrambler-valve-adjustment2.html
And ca cycle works videos on how to do it (this are older, but still a 2 valve desmo):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIj3nSJGPZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WQY1MRlmH4
Thanks sir!
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You guys/gals are the best!
Thank you.
More comments welcome.
inditx
I've been owning and working on Ducati belt engines for almost 40 years and bevel engines as well. Incorrect belt belt tensioning is a factor in many breakages in the past. Ducati went from a spring loaded tool to a harmonic system where you plucked the belt and red the resonant frequency to ascertain the tension. Personally I've done enough to set them by feel and observation. It won't be an issue for you though. I'm down to 2 Belt engined Ducatis these days and will probably always own these. Even when I'm an older fart and can no longer ride if I'm lucky enough to get to that situation I'll be able to take my grandson out to the workshop sit him down a safe distance from the twin Akropovic's on the end of the Titanium headers and say "check this out young fella, this is what a proper motorcycle used to sound like" and fire up that big aggressively cammed 1198 V twin and watch the reaction. I'm a believer in a proper well rounded education:)
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Ciao
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I'm a big Ducati fan, I even had a Scrambler as my first bike, albeit the old 60's single-cylinder 250cc model.
Currently got 2 - a 916 and a 900 Monster. I do all my own maintenance and am happy to leave the belts 3 - 4 years.
Maintenance can be time consuming, especially valve checks on a 4v/cylinder engine which is why it's expensive if a shop does it but with MBP valve retaining collets I hardly ever need to alter anything plus, I enjoy working on them and it gives me something to do when it's too cold to ride.
I was a little unlucky with the Monster as I've had to split the engine a couple of times for failed gearbox bearing and then later a broken gearbox but it is an old bike design and, once you're accustomed to the valve gear they're easy enough to work on.
My 916 has been more reliable and whilst I've had the cylinders etc. off it was for tuning/upgrades rather than breakdown repair. It's done over 50,000 miles and still going strong, one would hope the newer bikes are better engineered so you should be good to go.
Here they are, along with some Guzzi content;
(https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/data/photos/l/7/7223-1472062429-577829db7511c8fd1475b088dc0b7e75.jpg)
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I've been owning and working on Ducati belt engines for almost 40 years and bevel engines as well. Incorrect belt belt tensioning is a factor in many breakages in the past. Ducati went from a spring loaded tool to a harmonic system where you plucked the belt and red the resonant frequency to ascertain the tension. Personally I've done enough to set them by feel and observation. It won't be an issue for you though. I'm down to 2 Belt engined Ducatis these days and will probably always own these. Even when I'm an older fart and can no longer ride if I'm lucky enough to get to that situation I'll be able to take my grandson out to the workshop sit him down a safe distance from the twin Akropovic's on the end of the Titanium headers and say "check this out young fella, this is what a proper motorcycle used to sound like" and fire up that big aggressively cammed 1198 V twin and watch the reaction. I'm a believer in a proper well rounded education:)
(https://i.ibb.co/FWWV5p4/DSC00589-Copy.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FWWV5p4)
Ciao
Thanks sir!
Wish you lived around KC, I’d sit in to get education from you on Ducs.
inditx
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I'm a big Ducati fan, I even had a Scrambler as my first bike, albeit the old 60's single-cylinder 250cc model.
Currently got 2 - a 916 and a 900 Monster. I do all my own maintenance and am happy to leave the belts 3 - 4 years.
Maintenance can be time consuming, especially valve checks on a 4v/cylinder engine which is why it's expensive if a shop does it but with MBP valve retaining collets I hardly ever need to alter anything plus, I enjoy working on them and it gives me something to do when it's too cold to ride.
Thanks sir!
inditx
I was a little unlucky with the Monster as I've had to split the engine a couple of times for failed gearbox bearing and then later a broken gearbox but it is an old bike design and, once you're accustomed to the valve gear they're easy enough to work on.
My 916 has been more reliable and whilst I've had the cylinders etc. off it was for tuning/upgrades rather than breakdown repair. It's done over 50,000 miles and still going strong, one would hope the newer bikes are better engineered so you should be good to go.
Here they are, along with some Guzzi content;
(https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/data/photos/l/7/7223-1472062429-577829db7511c8fd1475b088dc0b7e75.jpg)
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Three fine steeds there Dukedesmo!!! That pic will be on my screen saver for a while, thanks.
Steve M
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This was just unloaded in my driveway yesterday! It's been too cold to ride it! Hopefully tomorrow.
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This thread has made me glad I have only enjoyed test riding Ducati bikes and never pulled the trigger on one.
Now I remember why it took 35 years of riding before I ventured beyond Japanese motorcycles.
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This was just unloaded in my driveway yesterday! It's been too cold to ride it! Hopefully tomorrow.
(https://i.ibb.co/DQf5HQk/Hypermotard-left-side.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DQf5HQk)
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I have been using a frequency app on my phone to set the belt tension. It's reproducible. Was very close to where I would have set it without the app.
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This thread has made me glad I have only enjoyed test riding Ducati bikes and never pulled the trigger on one.
Now I remember why it took 35 years of riding before I ventured beyond Japanese motorcycles.
I know we've had our differences but I can say that the more things you write the less I understand you. Perhaps you'd be most comfortable on a Twin Jet 100?
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While I've only owed four Ducati's in my riding lifetime, not one has ever left me stranded or broken down in any way. I got away from Japanese motorcycles not too long after I graduated from college. Reliable as a refrigerator, I suppose. But most are about as exciting as watching paint dry. I guess for someone that doesn't know how to change a spark plug they'd make sense. Only have one in my modest collection now, a 2007 Honda VFR in RWB anniversary colors. Pretty to look at, but still rather soulless ride. In typical Honda fashion it makes no torque at all, you've got to rev the snot out of it to make any power. That's fine on the track but a PITA on the street. I'm reasonably sure I'll be selling it this spring when the weather warms up.
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This was just unloaded in my driveway yesterday! It's been too cold to ride it! Hopefully tomorrow.
(https://i.ibb.co/DQf5HQk/Hypermotard-left-side.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DQf5HQk)
You might be able to keep Mike (mmranch) off your ass with that bike. :thumb:
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While I've only owed four Ducati's in my riding lifetime, not one has ever left me stranded or broken down in any way. I got away from Japanese motorcycles not too long after I graduated from college. Reliable as a refrigerator, I suppose. But most are about as exciting as watching paint dry. I guess for someone that doesn't know how to change a spark plug they'd make sense. Only have one in my modest collection now, a 2007 Honda VFR in RWB anniversary colors. Pretty to look at, but still rather soulless ride. In typical Honda fashion it makes no torque at all, you've got to rev the snot out of it to make any power. That's fine on the track but a PITA on the street. I'm reasonably sure I'll be selling it this spring when the weather warms up.
My Duc has been the most trouble free bike I've ever owned (knock wood). I'll admit the major service was a little high but I was in a hurry to make a ride and had the tech do some services that I could've done myself. For routine maintenance, oil change, rear tire and chain adjustment, with the right tools it's the easiest bike I've ever owned. It's also the best handling and most comfortable and perhaps fastest. Perhaps not as pretty as my V11 Sport.
I think when Audi purchased the company a few years ago that they were able leverage the capital with upgraded suppliers, quality and design.
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This was just unloaded in my driveway yesterday! It's been too cold to ride it! Hopefully tomorrow.
(https://i.ibb.co/DQf5HQk/Hypermotard-left-side.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DQf5HQk)
Way to go Mike!!
Last time I saw you, you were on THIS little number!
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^^^ :laugh:
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This was just unloaded in my driveway yesterday! It's been too cold to ride it! Hopefully tomorrow.
(https://i.ibb.co/DQf5HQk/Hypermotard-left-side.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DQf5HQk)
That's going to be way more fun to ride on twisty back roads than a sport bike.
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I've been looking for a clean Hypermotard for a while now. This one came from Denver. Finally got a chance to ride it yesterday. I was actually laughing inside my helmet. The seating position and handlebars put you almost over the front wheel. Absolutely nothing of the bike is visible when you ride it. It's like riding a 90 hp unicycle! I ride it a couple more times, then on the lift for a service and new timing belts, etc.
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I've been looking for a clean Hypermotard for a while now. This one came from Denver. Finally got a chance to ride it yesterday. I was actually laughing inside my helmet. The seating position and handlebars put you almost over the front wheel. Absolutely nothing of the bike is visible when you ride it. It's like riding a 90 hp unicycle! I ride it a couple more times, then on the lift for a service and new timing belts, etc.
Yep, riding in air with no visible motorcycle in front of you. I'd have to get used to it. But I thought it was a hoot.
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My memories of a Hypermotard test ride include zero wind protection, an odd riding position that seemed to have no reason for being and a very hard seat. That’s all I remember, because it went back to the dealer quickly.
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Yep, riding in air with no visible motorcycle in front of you. I'd have to get used to it. But I thought it was a hoot.
This was the case with the Bimota DB1 I owned in the mid 80's. It was a very compact Little bike and I'm just shy of 6'2" in the old money. It was like riding along on air with nothing of the bike in your visual area even peripheral. You had to look down to see the instruments or anything else for that matter.
Ciao
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Absolutely nothing of the bike is visible when you ride it.
This is exactly how I feel riding my Duc Superlight and the Sport 1100. After riding a Road Glide for years with a lazyboy seat and a giant fairing/dash in front of me; riding a sport bike is like a flying sensation almost as I see none of the bike. The full face helmet probably causes some of this as I can't see the gauges in my periferal without looking down.
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This is exactly how I feel riding my Duc Superlight and the Sport 1100. After riding a Road Glide for years with a lazyboy seat and a giant fairing/dash in front of me; riding a sport bike is like a flying sensation almost as I see none of the bike. The full face helmet probably causes some of this as I can't see the gauges in my periferal without looking down.
The sounds pretty familiar on those rare days I steal Jenn's Monster.
Pic just to add to the Duck-Love:
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Saweet!
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This is exactly how I feel riding my Duc Superlight and the Sport 1100. After riding a Road Glide for years with a lazyboy seat and a giant fairing/dash in front of me; riding a sport bike is like a flying sensation almost as I see none of the bike. The full face helmet probably causes some of this as I can't see the gauges in my periferal without looking down.
Same sensation that I got at first riding my Monster. I have always had bikes that you sat "in". The position took a little getting used to but it is more comfortable than I thought it would be.
Larry