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Title: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on April 30, 2022, 07:42:49 PM
Hi,
I need a center stand bolt for my Cali 3.
It appears that when they build the sidecar rig over 30 years ago they took the center stand off and never replaced the bolt.
Let me know if you have one that you could sell me.
Thanks Steve
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: fotoguzzi on April 30, 2022, 10:12:19 PM
First, if you don't have a center stand why do you need the bolt? 2, is there something special about it or could you just get a bolt from the hardware store? Are the CS mount plates still there?
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 01, 2022, 08:42:20 AM
The centerstand bolt is just a common M10 x 45 hex head bolt, grade 8.8. #7 in this illustration.


(https://i.ibb.co/4VkhnCm/Cal-III-stands.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4VkhnCm)
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on May 01, 2022, 10:01:31 AM
The reason I  need the bolt for the center stand is that there is nothing holding the transmission. I am assuming that a long bolt goes from one frame tube though one side of center stand than though the transmission mount though the other side of stand and into the other frame tube.
If I'm figuring correctly I only need #12 + 13 in Charlie's pic.

It's not that it's missing anything to do with the stand itself it's the fact that there isn't anything supporting the transmission.

I'm sorry for the poor communication.

Anyone have a # 12 bolt and # 13 nut? Thank you for the parts diagram Charlie.

Steve

Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 01, 2022, 10:21:35 AM
The reason I  need the bolt for the center stand is that there is nothing holding the transmission. I am assuming that a long bolt goes from one frame tube though one side of center stand than though the transmission mount though the other side of stand and into the other frame tube.
If I'm figuring correctly I only need #12 + 13 in Charlie's pic.

It's not that it's missing anything to do with the stand itself it's the fact that there isn't anything supporting the transmission.

I'm sorry for the poor communication.

Anyone have a # 12 bolt and # 13 nut? Thank you for the parts diagram Charlie.

Steve

I likely have that bolt w/nut and washers. Will check my stash later today.
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on May 01, 2022, 10:32:46 AM
Thanks Charlie,
I was all wound up when I was under there and saw that the transmission wasn't supported.
I guess it says alot that the engine mounts where able to take all the torque over the years.
Steve
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 01, 2022, 10:45:23 AM
I see now.. you do want that bolt. If Charlie doesn't have it I might but I'd need the length measurement since I have few mostly from Tonti frames.
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on May 01, 2022, 01:48:01 PM
I see now.. you do want that bolt. If Charlie doesn't have it I might but I'd need the length measurement since I have few mostly from Tonti frames.

fotoguzzi, I will let you know. It would be great if Charlie has it since he isn't that far from me.
Thanks Steve
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 01, 2022, 02:07:11 PM
If you have no centerstand or mounting parts installed, you'll likely need some spacers to make up the distance from missing #4, 5, 14 and 15.
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on May 01, 2022, 02:24:37 PM
If you have no centerstand or mounting parts installed, you'll likely need some spacers to make up the distance from missing #4, 5, 14 and 15.
I was thinking about that. The transmission would be putting more of a twisting motion and less of a side to side. To be safe I thought would use some tubing or pipe to take up the space of the stand.
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on May 01, 2022, 02:30:42 PM
If you have # 14 and 15 I  would only need washers to replace # 4 and 5.
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 01, 2022, 02:37:19 PM
Every time I dig around in my stash it amazes me what I find.  :wink: I found multiple bolts and spacers and this complete centerstand assembly.


(https://i.ibb.co/mGZZf50/Tonti-centerstand-001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mGZZf50)

(https://i.ibb.co/wcjrs8h/Tonti-centerstand-002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wcjrs8h)

(https://i.ibb.co/qjpNDSw/Tonti-centerstand-003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qjpNDSw)

(https://i.ibb.co/cvqSLFz/Tonti-centerstand-004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cvqSLFz)
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on May 01, 2022, 03:01:27 PM
Charlie,
Are the spacers,bolt,nut,and washers for sale?
Or the whole stand set up?
Steve
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 01, 2022, 04:01:02 PM
The whole shebang is available. Cheap.  :azn:
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: zamram on May 01, 2022, 06:48:35 PM
The whole shebang is available. Cheap.  :azn:
Charlie,
I will give you a call to make arrangements to come get it.
Steve
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 01, 2022, 06:57:44 PM
Charlie,
I will give you a call to make arrangements to come get it.
Steve

Okay dokey.
Title: Re: Cali 3 center stand bolt needed.
Post by: fotoguzzi on May 01, 2022, 08:18:01 PM
Saved by the wonderful Guzzi world order.