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Title: Inner tube separation
Post by: kballowe on June 14, 2022, 06:47:57 AM
We were out riding 2-up and in a tight right turn and the rear of the bike stepped out, and then it got interesting after that.

What could THAT be ?   Hmmmmmm.   Is it tar snakes ?   Oil ?  Road debris ?  Heck no.  flat tire.  Now, I had (1,000 miles ago) just replaced that tire and installed a new inner tube.  We change our own tires here, so I had to wonder if maybe I had pinched the tube during installation.  Never happened before, but there's always a first time.

This is what I discovered.  It appears that the tube is separating along the outer circumference.  Shown here is one section, but the rest of the tube looks the same way.

Have any of you ever seen one like this ?


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52144719067_2c33545191_k.jpg)

Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: Bisbonian on June 14, 2022, 06:51:00 AM
How old is that tube? In real age, not installed age.
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: lucky phil on June 14, 2022, 06:53:42 AM
Where is the tube made?

Ciao
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: kballowe on June 14, 2022, 07:00:44 AM
It's a Chinese made tube, which isn't all that unusual.  I had used Kenda or "Drag Specialties" tubes for years and thought maybe this time to spend a little more $$$ and get a better quality inner tube.  LOL - FAIL !
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: Ncdan on June 14, 2022, 07:08:49 AM
After looking at the surrounding circumstances one would just about have to come to the conclusion that it’s a factor defect.
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: yogidozer on June 14, 2022, 08:45:44 AM
You and your passenger are Very lucky you didn't go down.
IDK what brand it is, but if your front tube is the same brand, I would replace it.
Also google search for recalls on the brand to warn others
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 14, 2022, 11:14:21 AM
The Outex tubeless kit I installed has worked fine  :thumb: 
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: kballowe on June 14, 2022, 12:43:09 PM
You and your passenger are Very lucky you didn't go down.
IDK what brand it is, but if your front tube is the same brand, I would replace it.
Also google search for recalls on the brand to warn others

The front is the galactic standard "Drag Specialties" inner tube, and I just did find a replacement rear inner tube in my "stash".
This is a Genuine Harley Davidson inner tube with a mfr date early in 2020.  I'm not usually this free with my $$$, so I am not sure where this one came from.


(https://i.ibb.co/kJZbrjm/tube.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kJZbrjm)



It's all back together now and we've been road testing it.    :bike-037:

It's been toasty here, and so we removed the "quick release" windshield.  It does help.
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: Stevex on June 15, 2022, 09:45:44 AM
Which is why I fit tubeless to my LM2, even though the rims are for tubed.
I know a deflated radial may come off the rim, but deflation of a tubeless tyre is much slower and I check tyre pressures prior to every ride.
As a bonus I get to use radial tyres.
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: blu guzz on June 15, 2022, 10:14:49 AM
That is clearly a manufacturer's defect.  But, if you had been hurt and filed suit, they would argue that it was your installation. Could be interesting, but expensive to prove.
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on June 15, 2022, 11:39:49 AM
It looks like it separated along an old fold line, I wonder what conditions it was stored under.
It's bad enough worrying about possible punctures, the tube falling apart is not something I want to worry about.
Title: Re: Inner tube separation
Post by: kballowe on June 15, 2022, 02:19:08 PM
We've been out "testing" the new installation for a couple of days.

It's pretty warm here, and so we were "up before the dawn" and rode around a while and then stopped for a bit of breakfast.  Still a bit early.  It appears that we were the first customers of the day.

So far, so good.


(https://i.ibb.co/yXnxC3s/breakfast-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yXnxC3s)


(https://i.ibb.co/Hq4d2GH/breakfast-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Hq4d2GH)