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Title: Engine Strip
Post by: remfanuk on July 02, 2022, 07:37:40 AM
Does anyone have a link or some other type of resource that would help me in stripping down engine to its the cases on '79 V50 so i can get the cerakoted please?  and then obviously trying to put it all back together.  i have never done anything like this before.  thanks.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: Scout63 on July 02, 2022, 07:43:17 AM
These and the forum are your three best friends.  If you don’t dig into the gearbox it’s pretty straightforward.

https://www.thisoldtractor.com/mg_manuals/workshop_manual_v35_v50_en.pdf

https://www.thisoldtractor.com/mg_manuals/spare_parts_catalog_v35-v50.pdf
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: guzzisteve on July 02, 2022, 08:21:04 AM
I like using the later green book, has more upgrades they had.

https://guzzitek.org/gb/ma_us_uk/V35V50V65_041983_Atelier(GB).pdf
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on July 02, 2022, 08:35:26 AM
This Old Tractor has technical training videos, and while they're for the later 750 engine, most of it will pertain to the V50 as well.
https://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_technical_training_videos_eng.html
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: remfanuk on July 02, 2022, 08:45:25 AM
thanks guys...i think my manual is a blue one...will look at those links.  cheers!
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: n3303j on July 02, 2022, 09:35:52 AM
Does anyone have a link or some other type of resource that would help me in stripping down engine to its the cases on '79 V50 so i can get the cerakoted please?  and then obviously trying to put it all back together.  i have never done anything like this before.  thanks.
What everyone else said AND cell phone camera very close by. Before, during and after each step pictures are so great when you are doing reassembly. Wire harness layout, control cable routings, timing marks and on and on. Images are free, having a pictoral answer is priceless. Stripped my Ural and T3 to the frame. Pictures sure made reinstalling all the little bits so much easier.
And a bundle of little zip lock plastic bags with a black Sharpie close by. Fill them with bolts, nuts, washers divided by logic and label the bags accordingly. Makes reassembly go so much more smoothly and keeps the long bolt out of the short hole and the reverse too.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: remfanuk on July 10, 2022, 12:10:25 PM
I am somewhat daunted by such a task...if something's not broke, why fix it I am now thinking.  appreciate the tips for taking anything apart, organisation is everything.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: guzzisteve on July 10, 2022, 12:35:42 PM
Why was it you wanted to pull it apart?
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: remfanuk on July 16, 2022, 10:19:16 AM
Why was it you wanted to pull it apart?

originally to get all the cases cerakoted as they can't be done when assembled.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: guzzisteve on July 16, 2022, 11:34:53 AM
Must be nasty looking, you could powder blast it all together and make it prettier.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: blackcat on July 16, 2022, 11:53:16 AM
Must be nasty looking, you could powder blast it all together and make it prettier.

I had my CX engine soda blasted without taking it apart, same with the transmission and final drive.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: guzziart on July 17, 2022, 07:35:29 AM
I had my CX engine soda blasted without taking it apart, same with the transmission and final drive.

Me too.....

(https://i.ibb.co/25m3SVb/20150918-065604.jpg) (https://ibb.co/25m3SVb)

Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: remfanuk on July 18, 2022, 06:21:22 AM
i am going to have to look into that as i have been told that there's no guarantee that particles will get shot into parts where you don't want them.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: Pescatore on July 18, 2022, 08:07:06 PM
I couldn't find anyone to soda blast my engine, so I did it myself.
A fully assembled engine makes it easier,  with fewer holes to plug.
I used Gorilla tape.
I didn't blast on joints, nor directly at the holes.
I also bead blasted some oil stains.
Mine turned out fine.  YMMV.  Very messy job.
https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=102352.msg1696317#msg1696317
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 19, 2022, 06:24:53 AM
You know the can of worms you opened when you decided to paint the rear drive and took it apart? Taking the engine apart is a bigger one. As with the rear drive, you don't know what you don't know. Don't do it. Just MHO.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: czakky82 on July 19, 2022, 06:51:00 AM
I’m with Chuck, you will have so many, “while I’m here it makes sense to do this…” that it will be thousands of dollars. Things snowball very fast.
A bottle of Simple Green and a few hours can make old cases fairly presentable.
Title: Re: Engine Strip
Post by: remfanuk on July 19, 2022, 10:41:42 AM
definitely not opening the engine if i don't need to.  its not to grubby but would benefit from brightening up.  i have used a wax type product called Rub 'n Buff before on an engine and it looks fantastic.  might go that way again.  i got some ebony version of it for the rear drive now that i cannot/do not want to take it apart any further.