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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tom on August 12, 2022, 04:03:37 PM
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"10 Motorcycle Flops. The top ten worst motorcycles ever made"
Agree/Disagree. If you had the money and didn't care which would buy? Ducati for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYHUOHx4Zh4
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Frankly, a British accent and the ability to produce videos does not a motorcycle critic make. Well executed video for non motorcyclists. Actual motorcyclists might like (or dislike ) certain bikes more likely from a hands on/ experiential perspective than what seems to be hearsay gathered from sound and word bites while researching. None of them a flop imo ,( actually mostly brilliant machines) but the flop moniker will get more clicks. Still fun to watch, got :my 5 lbs bag of salt nearby. :grin:
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Someone posted on an earlier thread that lists are just someone trying to get vids on their Youtube channel. I looked at it as "what" motorcycles were on it. :grin:
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I like most of these bikes, but of course I wasn't going to buy one new!
But, you are right, it is just click bait, lots of production companies are feeding their families on "the ten worst" this and "don't you dare eat" that. Whether they contribute truth and value, or just clicks.
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He was honest enough to say that some of these bikes are now sought after.
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Someone in the video comments made the valid point that these bikes were sales flops vs “the worst motorcycles ever made”
Full disclose: I own one of the bikes in the video. Orange 2009 XR1200. I have two standing offers to buy it anytime I want to sell.
That XR’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
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Just some of the bikes , namely the XR1200, BMW 1200 C and the Honda CTX, Ducati SportClassics I have ridden are brilliant motorcycles at least from my experience. Sales flops? only from the hundreds of thousands of models sold perspective ( which the manufacturers may have not planned to produce for those models anyway).
Some good money can be earned making well monetized youtube videos...
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Someone in the video comments made the valid point that these bikes were sales flops vs “the worst motorcycles ever made”
Full disclose: I own one of the bikes in the video. Orange 2009 XR1200. I have two standing offers to buy it anytime I want to sell.
That XR’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
I haven't had an HD in decades but if I came across a gently used orange XR1200 for an attractive price I'd buy it. I like the way they look and I'm more than willing to overlook whatever shortcomings the model may have, if any. Yeah, you can put me in as #3 :thumb:
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The only one of the ten that I've ridden is the Street 750. It was the worst bike I've ever ridden, uncomfortable, cumbersome, slow. Unsurprisingly it didn't sell well in the UK.
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Curious that they say the XR1200 is slow and heavy. Any Sporty that I've ridden doesn't feel that way. I've tossed them them through mtn. hairpin roads without problems for handling. :laugh:
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A friend of mine has an XR and I certainly wouldn't call it slow, he is selling it as his age is telling him to slow down so if anyone wants to buy it I can put you in contact with him. I have no idea what he wants for the bike.
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Looks like a fun bike to ride. :grin:
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My .01
GTS was brilliant, would have loved to own one
R1200 C was an odd duck, but capable
TL1000 was a crotch rocket, nuf said
RST 1000 (Futura?) WAAAAAY underrated. A really nice bike
DUC Sport Classic - It's a Ducatti..........
B King? Ugly example of Insectoid styling Give me a Bandit
XR 1200 was the best of the Sportsters, and a gem
DN 01? I have no words, I dont do drugs or drink to excess
Street 750? Bahahaaaaaaaa
CTX 1300 was an attempt that could have been so much better but for horrible styling
If I could buy any of these today it would be the Yamaha GTS or Ducatti Sport Classic, but wouldn't pass up on the Futura
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If I could go back in time and focus on getting 1 bike out of the multitude of choices that were available, a bike I'd have to live with & not just look at, it would be the GT750 Suzuki water buffalo. I know it wouldn't be the greatest bike to ever own, but it's the one that still sticks in my head.
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My .01
GTS was brilliant, would have loved to own one
R1200 C was an odd duck, but capable
TL1000 was a crotch rocket, nuf said
RST 1000 (Futura?) WAAAAAY underrated. A really nice bike
DUC Sport Classic - It's a Ducatti..........
B King? Ugly example of Insectoid styling Give me a Bandit
XR 1200 was the best of the Sportsters, and a gem
DN 01? I have no words, I dont do drugs or drink to excess
Street 750? Bahahaaaaaaaa
CTX 1300 was an attempt that could have been so much better but for horrible styling
If I could buy any of these today it would be the Yamaha GTS or Ducatti Sport Classic, but wouldn't pass up on the Futura
Right there with you except for the sport classic. I demoed the GT in 2006 and it was uncomfortable, even by italian bike standards. The rear edges of the tank dug into my thighs and I couldn't wait to get off of the thing. It does look good though.
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He was on a hiding to nowhere with this video whatever ten bikes he selected. Get ten riders together and ask what were the biggest ten flops and you’ll get ten different answers (eleven if one of them is an economist). To be fair, I believe he was attempting to identify sales flops; this is very different from worst bikes. Trouble is that the only way to identify sales flops accurately is to compare marketing department sales predictions with actual sales ie what numbers the manufacturer hoped to sell to make the bike a viable model for continued production v what sales actually materialised in that period. This is probably impossible to do without cooperation of the manufacturer. Some of the bikes listed were a bit radical for motorcyclists, who tend to be a bit conservative regarding their taste In but les.
FWIW Vizordown videos are fairly well-regarded and well-known on this side of the pond. Their new bike reviews tend to be more honest and less sycophantic than those in the bike mags.
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I was kind of surprised to see the XR 1200 as part of the list of shame. They are still not a bunch of people that want them. My son had a beautiful, orange 09, it was not the X model with the black engine, and fancy rear shocks, but it was gorgeous with a full Vance and Hines black widow exhaust, a badass european intake snorkel, and a nice Corbin seat. When he got bored with it, and decided to sell it, it took him 2 years to sell! He listed it on CL, the XR 1200 riders forum, and facebook. He finally had to let it go for $5500. and I had to deliver it in Phoenix, for a dude that flew in from Vegas to do a fly and ride.
I think I could sell Guzzis easier all day long! :wink:
Rick.
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Sometimes the flopping has its advantages. I was about to leave two wheeling due to "maturing" and because none of my bikes seemed suitable anymore. So, I started looking for a "last shot" more comfortable ride. I stumbled upon a Honda CTX1300D with ABS/TCS and stereo new at a dealer for half list + accesories at 20% discount and free mounting and bought it. It is a bike that does most everything well but nothing great. It is, however, the most comfortable bike I have ridden for long distance which is what I like to do. As to styling, yes not good until you add the longer OEM windshield and either the top case or passenger backrest.
(https://i.ibb.co/vYX2607/IMAG1060.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vYX2607)
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That CTX looks impressive, the way you set it up. :thumb: That looks like the engine from the st 1300 sport tourer. That bike must be very smooth,and hairy chested!
Rick.
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That CTX looks impressive, the way you set it up. :thumb: That looks like the engine from the st 1300 sport tourer. That bike must be very smooth,and hairy chested!
Rick.
Yes, it has the ST1300 engine somewhat detuned for power but tuned for torque where you need it. I added the topcase, higher windshield, OEM Led extra side lights, centerstand and electric plug. Not shown in the pic. because I added them later are sidebags protection bars and an Utopia backrest. Some have speculated it was a styling excercise for the last generation Goldwing, and people ask me if it is the GW.
The reason it flopped in the market place, I think were two fold: It looked very strange without the extras on the showroom floor and the list price was $18K for the abs model. Perhaps also because it is a strange creature in the MC world. Not a sport tourer, not a cruiser or bagger and not a tourer but a combination of all of them. I am very happy with mine, though.
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I wish I would have bought Brian Reynolds GT 1000 when he offered it to buy.
I rode the GT and a Yamaha 600 sport back to back. The Yamaha was fast, the Ducati had more character and better ride.
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Your list is spot on Bulldog. Of all the bikes I’ve owned, the only two I regret selling are the XR1200 and faired CBX.