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Title: jackal center stand?
Post by: Moda253 on October 22, 2022, 08:40:16 PM
I know I have been asking a bunch of questions, but my jackal doesn't have a center stand. And working on it while it is on the side stand is nerve wracking..... Can anyone recommend a decent stand to use that will be stable? Options that won't exactly break the bank would be mucho appreciated.
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on October 23, 2022, 09:23:38 AM
Check E bay https://www.ebay.com/itm/304513084921?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338767525&toolid=20006&customid=4581664967841086_377870104
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Snow Leopard on October 23, 2022, 10:59:45 AM
If I have this wrong, someone please jump in, but I believe any center stand off a Tonti frame bike should work.  I currently have a 2002 Stone (basically same as your 2000 Jackal as I had one for years) and I put a center stand off an old Convert on mine.  It bolted right on and works fine.  These come up on eBay from time to time.
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: BMCMOTO on October 23, 2022, 01:55:07 PM
I think all Tonti frame the centerstands will mount up, differences will be in the height ie; length of the legs. Tire aspect ratio and thus outside diameter, swing arm length etc. willplay into this. I used a later model centerstand on my 2001 Jackal and it was a bit taller, worked well just had to work harder to get it up onto the centerstand.

Brian
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Snow Leopard on October 23, 2022, 07:51:56 PM
Height can be an issue for sure, as there were many bikes with different swing arm lengths, tire sizes etc. all using the same frame.  On my 2002 Stone, the Convert center stand does not raise the rear wheel off the pavement.  It comes out dead level.  For most maintenance that's fine and easy to rock it up on the stand.  If I need to rotate the rear wheel, I put a 1/2" piece of plywood under the stand.
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Moda253 on October 23, 2022, 08:22:06 PM
Perfect thanks guys. Snow my bike has a cross pipe between the two header pipes (not sure if that was stock or no) will that play into things?
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: BMCMOTO on October 23, 2022, 08:37:34 PM
Not a problem, all the later bikes have a crossover or a third muffler sometimes mistaken for a catalytic converter. Make sure you get all the mounting pieces, there are several. Installation is not difficult but can be confusing and maybe a little disorienting because you'll be working upside down.

Brian
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Mike Tashjian on October 24, 2022, 07:34:33 AM
My 02 Stone was missing some parts that did not come with the center stand when new.  My dealer swapped the parts from a bike on the showroom floor.  Seems the factory did not supply every bike with the same bushings and bolts under the motor. That was confusing until the dealer and I looked under a few new bikes at the time. 
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: kidsmoke on October 24, 2022, 08:25:52 AM
centerstands are priceless on these bikes. But for maintenance another option is a quality front wheel chock. I find that I prefer that even though I've got the centerstand. Really opens things up. Won't help if a wheels got to come off, of course, but shy of that they work well.
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Moda253 on October 24, 2022, 09:30:24 AM
centerstands are priceless on these bikes. But for maintenance another option is a quality front wheel chock. I find that I prefer that even though I've got the centerstand. Really opens things up. Won't help if a wheels got to come off, of course, but shy of that they work well.

Well, I am finding it difficult to locate a center stand so it's funny you bring this up. I can find a decent when chock, but I wonder if anyone has a suggestion on a jack for lifting the frame up? That way I could chock the front tire with tie downs to home it in place with a jack to lift the rear wheel.
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Tom H on October 24, 2022, 10:15:12 AM
This is the one I use. Not as inexpensive as they used to be though.

https://www.harborfreight.com/1800-lb-capacity-motorcycle-standwheel-chock-61670.html

The only issue with it is that it needs to be secured to the floor to get the bike out of it. Read the reviews. Some use a sheet of plywood so the weight of the bike holds it in place. I had a anchor hole in my garage floor. I use a metal rod through the chock and into the hole. Works perfect.

Tom
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Moda253 on October 24, 2022, 11:37:31 AM
This is the one I use. Not as inexpensive as they used to be though.

https://www.harborfreight.com/1800-lb-capacity-motorcycle-standwheel-chock-61670.html

The only issue with it is that it needs to be secured to the floor to get the bike out of it. Read the reviews. Some use a sheet of plywood so the weight of the bike holds it in place. I had a anchor hole in my garage floor. I use a metal rod through the chock and into the hole. Works perfect.

Tom

That is the one I was going to get. Nice!
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Mike Tashjian on October 24, 2022, 11:50:14 AM
https://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/9fc4a8332f9638515cd199dd0f9238da/6/3/63397_I.jpg  I have this style that I used on a Harley and it worked well.  For a Jackal or Stone I think you have make up a wooden or metal part to catch the frame rails and not crush the exhaust.
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Moda253 on October 24, 2022, 12:51:22 PM
https://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/9fc4a8332f9638515cd199dd0f9238da/6/3/63397_I.jpg  I have this style that I used on a Harley and it worked well.  For a Jackal or Stone I think you have make up a wooden or metal part to catch the frame rails and not crush the exhaust.

Interesting. Yeah so it would need a spacer to let the exhausts hang over.
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Mike Tashjian on October 24, 2022, 05:06:28 PM
I thought a few people made a box type adapter with two sides front and back contoured to lift the bike on the frame rails. The box gets secured to the lift and then a strap around the bike, box and lift platform.  I saw it on an old old thread so maybe someone who made or used it will chime in. 
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: Moda253 on October 24, 2022, 05:16:51 PM
I thought a few people made a box type adapter with two sides front and back contoured to lift the bike on the frame rails. The box gets secured to the lift and then a strap around the bike, box and lift platform.  I saw it on an old old thread so maybe someone who made or used it will chime in.

Yep I bet I could fashion something even if it is bolted together
Title: Re: jackal center stand?
Post by: s1120 on October 25, 2022, 03:02:55 AM
I have a front chock that I can strap the bike into, and just use a old hydraulic sizor jack I have laying around to lift the other end. I just use a chunk of wood between the jack and bike. Its not pretty but works fine.