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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: twowheeladdict on November 08, 2022, 04:59:23 AM
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https://youtu.be/jGgDQebrTlk
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To my eye, the other 650 RE models look better. But I'm sure quite a few people will prefer this version.
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To my eye, the other 650 RE models look better. But I'm sure quite a few people will prefer this version.
Like the V7 verses the Bobber.
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Looks great—RE’s continuing to do great things, and at reasonable prices.
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Nice looking bike. I am surprised they haven’t gone to a 750 yet given the original Intercepters were 750s.
Pete
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541#
“Stereo Struts” now that’s something to brag about :azn:
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For the foot forward crowd.
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Another "cruiser" how unusual. :rolleyes:
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Another "cruiser" how unusual. :rolleyes:
Who needs to go unusual? Royal Enfield, probably more than any other brand, thrives off retro-style. Might as well give the people what they want with an air/oil-cooled cruiser. With Harley’s Sportster finally modernizing, the classic air-cooled cruiser might be on its way out.
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Move those foot controls back and not too bad.
inditx
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Yeah I like the looks of it except for the forward foot controls.
Larry
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Isn't the INT for that rider who wants standard?
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Just read 530lbs, a bit heavy for a 650.
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Who needs to go unusual? Royal Enfield, probably more than any other brand, thrives off retro-style. Might as well give the people what they want with an air/oil-cooled cruiser. With Harley’s Sportster finally modernizing, the classic air-cooled cruiser might be on its way out.
Or do it the Triumph way, hide everything. On my 1200 the radiator is almost invisible and they put fake carburetors on it. Quite a few people including bikers are amazed when they learn it is a '22 model. The Audace was the furthest I ever got from a classically styled bike. The Bonneville and my V7lll Special are perfect for me. When I had to replace the Audace the Bonneville was pretty much the only bike that fit my criteria.
kk
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It looks nice. And I like the idea. But... 241 kg? A full 40 kg heavier that the 650 Interceptor? That isn't a meteor, that's a giant asteroid, like the one that wiped out all the dinosaurs.
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That made me laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!
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my first thought was: are we back in the early 80s. that was when every manufacturer was making something that they hoped looked like a harley.
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my first thought was: are we back in the early 80s. that was when every manufacturer was making something that they hoped looked like a harley.
I am guessing the Meteor 350 sold well enough that they decided to make a 650. Seems like a lot of people were clamoring for a more powerful Himalayan so maybe they will make a 500cc version of that.
Personally I don't fit on low seat cruisers if they don't have the forward controls.
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Move those foot controls back and not too bad.
inditx
This. There is supposed to be another 650 variant in the works with the foot controls a little further back. One can hope.
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my first thought was: are we back in the early 80s. that was when every manufacturer was making something that they hoped looked like a harley.
Where have you been? They are all still doing that and have been since the 80s. They just are pretty much failing at trying to make Harley displacement cruisers. When they stick to the sizes they made in the 80s they do OK.
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It looks nice. And I like the idea. But... 241 kg? A full 40 kg heavier that the 650 Interceptor? That isn't a meteor, that's a giant asteroid, like the one that wiped out all the dinosaurs.
Yep! Even if I liked it better than the other two Royal Enfileds, the increase in weight would be a deal breaker.
In my mind, destroying function for the sake of appearance is not something I want to reward with my money in a purchase.
An asteroid killed the dinosaurs?
I'm still here.......
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my first bike was a Kawasaki 250CSR. It was an upright single with a stepped seat and other cruiser affectations. it looked nothing like a harley. now, at least the other makers are making real v-twins so they look more authentic. to me, it looks more like one of those early attempts.
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I stopped by the Indian dealership in Myrtle Beach, who also carry’s triumph, and Royal infield and ask about the new RE.
The manager said his rep told him there’s no arrival date as to when the new model will be arriving in the US.
I inquired about the reliability of the brand and if there were any inherit issues that continue cropping up. He seemed to be an honest gentleman and he gave me an assertive NO issues that the owners return for warranty work.
He said that his other two brands have many more issues that the RE brand.
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I don't think buyers of RE bikes care much about performance or weight, at least in general. They just want a nice, easy to ride, fun bike. And that they do make. My 500 is not particularly fast.........but it is tons of fun.
Scott
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Rode my '21 RE Interceptor 650 140+ miles today. A bit tall for me but lowered 20mm with custom IKON shocks. I had to get a Russell seat made for it, but if it had as OEM the new Meteor 650 seat I think it would have been fine "as is". The Interceptor 650 as tested by Cycle World with full tank was 482#. Do not believe the maker's published weight as it is "dry" weight and often that means no fluids and no battery. Like anyone rides it like that. Not a problem on my Interceptor and just crossed 5K miles today. Hardly a record, but it is encouraging. Electronic gremlins are not unknown on the 650s, but far more have proven to have no problems. (Jack Straw on this forum had unsolvable problems with his Interceptor and unloaded it to move up to a new V-7.)
The 3 year unlimited miles warranty also enhances buyer confidence. It's a good bike, but emotionally cannot compete with my '04 Breva 750.
Overall, Enfield's remarkably high sales volume is explained by good designs, good reliability (in recent few years) and MSRP far below the competition.
Ralph
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Very pretty bike and they nailed the proportions.
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It's a reasonably attractive machine to me. Like others, I'm not into forward controls and I'd prefer spoke wheels on what is intended to be a classic cruiser but, hey, I give 'em props for their effort. Mention of upgraded switchgear is welcome to my ears too. Wish Guzzi would make similar upgrades. Overall the RE lineup, that I consider to be a bargain-priced one, still comes across as a slightly crude effort in the finishing. However, reliability doesn't seem to be a demon for them as we have known with some of these European bikes. Ahem.
(https://i.ibb.co/N71FHt3/U2al-EQquw1dd-il-Afy-Sf46zvo-QOKu-OEPKy-Hep-Ayn-KAF9-L1-Stnn-LSek-B9-Jo7rx-Dv-Rv0p-Lt408r-HWri-Xe7n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N71FHt3)
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As long as RE keeps the cost low and the quality high, they will do ok.. However this new machine is in a market segment that has been flooded by many manufactures for several decades, and i don't see it offering anything "stand-out". so....best wishes..
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Classic good looks. I like it:
(https://i.ibb.co/b3ym8zG/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b3ym8zG)
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As long as RE keeps the cost low and the quality high, they will do ok.. However this new machine is in a market segment that has been flooded by many manufactures for several decades, and i don't see it offering anything "stand-out". so....best wishes..
Air cooled for one.
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Classic good looks. I like it:
(https://i.ibb.co/b3ym8zG/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://ibb.co/b3ym8zG)
It does have a bit of a Harley Davidson vibe from the swingarm pivot back, and a bit of Triumph vibe from the swingarm pivot forward.
Not as good looking to my eye as Royal Enfield's other 650 twins. Probably looks better in real life.
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They should be here in U.S. next May.
Lots of riders prefer that style and I hope they sell lots of them.
I just feel sorry for all the older geezers (like me) who want to downsize but don't realize how hard that riding position is on the human body.
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I would bet an aftermarket solution to move the controls comes out shortly after the bike does.
-AJ
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As long as RE keeps the cost low and the quality high, they will do ok.. However this new machine is in a market segment that has been flooded by many manufactures for several decades, and i don't see it offering anything "stand-out". so....best wishes..
Air cooled for one.
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Air cooled for "Two"
There are all the Other - "Liquid Cooled" machines , to choose from .
But , Liquid Cooled ... is just NOT "COOL" ...
I understand the 650 RE get better fuel eco. than most other bikes that can go "TOO-FAST" .
The V7II being one of the "TOO-FAST" Group. Back East here the speed limit is 70mph and 75mph is fast enough to stay out of any trouble and keep the troopers waving back friendly like. :smiley:
I'm thinking it will sell just as fast as they can make them. Heck , They might even sell "ME" one of them (in a few years) . ?
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I would bet an aftermarket solution to move the controls comes out shortly after the bike does.
-AJ
A quick look at the foot controls looks like they were an afterthought, and could easily be moved. The rear master cylinder looks fairly cobbled. :wink: And the hiem joint rod on the shifter is long enough to modify.
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Never understood the foot forward riding thing. Years ago when Victory came out I was checking them out Canton Cycle (Avon CT) Bill talk me into taking one for a test ride,I was back in 15 minutes,Didn't even make it around the reservoir Bill ask how come I was back so soon I told him, my tail bone was killing me though I liked the motor, Bike was to painful with all the weight on my butt. I'm sure it works out fine for a lot of riders though.
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I like the look of the new 650 Meteor, but yes, at 530 pounds, that's a little bit of a "lump". :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
For comparison, my '98 Centauro GT is fuel injected V10 (992cc) with 95 HP and only 525 pounds... :thumb: :thumb:
I have always admired the new Triumph Bonneville Black...and it does not have "forward controls..." :wink:
(https://i.ibb.co/4TdP0BY/Screen-Shot-2022-11-11-at-6-09-45-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/4TdP0BY)
(https://i.ibb.co/m9YjK5J/Screen-Shot-2022-11-11-at-6-09-54-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/m9YjK5J)
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Then again, I have always lusted for a 1968 Royal Enfield 750 Interceptor!! :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing: (Oh yeah!!!) :cool: :boozing: :smiley:
(https://i.ibb.co/6gy3GjX/Screen-Shot-2022-11-11-at-6-18-14-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/6gy3GjX)
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RE is reminiscent of Honda in the early 60s whenI started riding.There was a lot of prejudice against Japanese products left from the war years.However the quality and price led to the demise of the British cycle industry.Similar situation with Chinese bikes today,I just visited a Triumph dealer with a showroom full of Benellis and big cool looking Chinese bikes I never heard of.Time will tell if there is a new generation of riders on the horizon ,my guess is that they will do what most of us did and go with the new stuff.
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But , Liquid Cooled ... is just NOT "COOL" ...
I have a new Bonneville. The water cooling is quite well hidden. It is hard to tell that it is water cooled without closely looking it over. People are amazed when I inform them that it is water cooled. They also want to know why it is still carbureted in this day and age. :wink:
kk
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I think we might be missing the point here. Harleys are lusted for in India. I'll bet that is where they sell the biggest lot of them.
I just feel sorry for all the older geezers (like me) who want to downsize but don't realize how hard that riding position is on the human body.
It is certainly horrible for me. I never had lower back issues until I had a cruiser for 6 months. (!!)
Everyone's different, though.. BIL Harley Bob rode all over the country with me on his Heritage softtail. Said it was like sitting in a recliner.. (shrug)
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" a 1968 Royal Enfield 750 Interceptor!! "
Sure looks like the RE 350 Classic , (minus 1 cylinder) :huh:
Nice looking machine !!! But I want mine with injection and modern electronics . :wink:
Wait !!! The modern Interceptor comes with a chrome tank ! :thumb:
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I lusted for an Interceptor when I was a kid. There was an old fart that sold them out of his garage, and he didn't mind me watching him servicing them. :smiley: Fortunately, I couldn't afford one, because they were not good motorcycles.. I had the hots for a Velo, too. (shrug) Must be some sort of genetic defect. :smiley:
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I think we might be missing the point here. Harleys are lusted for in India. I'll bet that is where they sell the biggest lot of them.
It is certainly horrible for me. I never had lower back issues until I had a cruiser for 6 months. (!!)
Everyone's different, though.. BIL Harley Bob rode all over the country with me on his Heritage softtail. Said it was like sitting in a recliner.. (shrug)
The Heritage is probably the most ergonomically comfortable motorcycle made. If it came with tubeless wheels and better lean angle I would own one.
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I lusted for an Interceptor when I was a kid. There was an old fart that sold them out of his garage, and he didn't mind me watching him servicing them. :smiley: Fortunately, I couldn't afford one, because they were not good motorcycles.. I had the hots for a Velo, too. (shrug) Must be some sort of genetic defect. :smiley:
Right you are! A friend had a 750 Interceptor back in the day. After a bunch of trouble, he quickly sold it.
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The Heritage is probably the most ergonomically comfortable motorcycle made. If it came with tubeless wheels and better lean angle I would own one.
Well, now's your chance. They come with cast wheels, now:
(https://i.ibb.co/B62BYmW/2022-heritage-classic-114-f66b-motorcycle-02.webp) (https://ibb.co/B62BYmW)
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/heritage-classic.html
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The Heritage is probably the most ergonomically comfortable motorcycle made. If it came with tubeless wheels and better lean angle I would own one.
Cast wheels were an option starting last year.
And I bet a shock swap would buy more lean angle.
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Nice to know about the Heritage now having cast wheel option. When the Road Glide value drops enough, and the weight becomes too much, I might do an even trade for one.