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Title: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 13, 2023, 10:26:38 AM
What's your 'sweet spot?' None of my bikes are beasts and the power is always manageable, so I shift more for satisfaction than 'performance'

I love the characteristics of our Guzzi motors with a fat torque and power band from 3500-6500 rpm, but when I give it the beans.....

Griso (1100) - 7000 - with the Ago HF pipe the off throttle sound between shifts is just sublime.
1200 Sport - 7500 Motor is silky smooth and makes such nice fluid power. Mistral can with DB in makes nice noises but no where as thuggish as it's little brother.
Stornello - 6500 but frequently hit the rev limiter :-) I have the Mistral can that sounds slightly better than the stock arrow can. The Beetle map gives a nice midrange kick where the stock map has a kick and unless the bags are loaded up spins very fast and smooth.
Convert - ummmmm while stopped or rolling at least than 10mph  :boozing:

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Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: LowRyter on January 13, 2023, 06:09:56 PM
6 or 7k is pretty good.  if you're just cruisin' 4-5k 

it's a Guzzi, don't lug it
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Moparnut72 on January 13, 2023, 06:34:42 PM
Depends on the gear you are in. Lower gears lower rpm. Gotta feel what your bike wants.
kk
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Scout63 on January 13, 2023, 08:18:16 PM
Um - 5k and adjust up or down to suit.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Huzo on January 13, 2023, 09:27:18 PM
Varies with applied load conditions.
There’s no one size fits all.
The variables are…
Load.
Desired acceleration.
Slope.
Temperature.
Throttle setting.
If you graphed the curve of all those and managed to plug the results into an equation, you’ll know.

(But my Norge loves 5,000 under “ brisk” acceleration demands…)
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: FarmallA on January 13, 2023, 09:35:30 PM
Or a nice rev matched down-shift and wind out to redline just to hear it!
FarmallA
Steve
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Ncdan on January 13, 2023, 11:05:00 PM
Most of my roughly 25-30 bikes in my lifetime have had tachometers. That being said, I have never used a tachometer to determine when any bike needs to be shifted to the next gear up or the next gear down shift. I believe the rider should be able to listen to his bike and understand that the bike will tell when it wants to be shifted to the next gear.
My 02 Stone has no tachometer and I could care less.
However,  to shift of not to shift is a personal riders choice and there is neither a right or wrong answer.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: kingoffleece on January 13, 2023, 11:07:12 PM
Bingo.  The essence of a Guzzi.  LISTEN to it.  Lots of other bikes are like appliances.  Any gear, any time.  A Guzzi rewards the pilot with a give and take dance between machine and man.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: LowRyter on January 14, 2023, 09:01:53 AM
shift by feel.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Paul_Tim on January 14, 2023, 09:47:35 AM
It gradually increased over the first 18 months of ownership (08 Stelvio) from about 5K5 up to 7K.
These days it really depends on how I feel and how much of a hurry I am in to get to my destination. Going to work it might be 4K, comming home nearer to 7K   :grin:
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 14, 2023, 01:38:04 PM
Bingo.  The essence of a Guzzi.  LISTEN to it.  Lots of other bikes are like appliances.  Any gear, any time.  A Guzzi rewards the pilot with a give and take dance between machine and man.

Absolutely.... This was obvious to me in the first 100 feet on the Griso on its first ride.

It did take me 6 months on the Griso and Norge to learn how to ride a Guzzi and get the most out of it's motor. The FJR 1300 was an appliance and made ridiculous speed and power, but had no soul.

The Griso has an off throttle between gear change blat that is always satisfying but just glorious at 6-7k
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: John A on January 14, 2023, 06:38:12 PM
My favorite is 5700 going from 3rd to fourth up a grade
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: bad Chad on January 14, 2023, 07:41:47 PM
My favorite?  Not gonna say. 
 You might not be able to handle what I’m doing.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Huzo on January 14, 2023, 09:08:00 PM
My favorite?  Not gonna say. 
 You might not be able to handle what I’m doing.
Hey it’s your bike Chad, I wouldn’t mind if you changed gears with a stone axe.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: MMRanch on January 14, 2023, 09:23:07 PM
Ya'll are a bunch of Hooligans' !  :laugh:

I shift my 7II between 2500 - to - 3500 .    Unless I'm merging into traffic then it 3500 to 4500.   Most of the time I'm skipping 3rd and 5th , my bike smiles back at me for being nice and easy on the throttle too !   :azn:   

Comes from a lifetime of ridding Big Single cylinder Long Stroke machines.   I spent 20+ years having a LS650/S-40 for an everyday ridder .   :smiley:
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Scout63 on January 15, 2023, 07:56:27 AM
I used to ride all day around town at 2500-3000 on my airheads. Then I got a Commando, then Guzzis, then Ducatis.  The BMW just didn’t sound better up the rev range. The sexy twins all come into their own above 4000. I also realized at some point that the oil pump moves more oil at higher revs.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: AJ Huff on January 15, 2023, 08:51:38 AM
About 3200.

-AJ
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Zenermaniac on January 15, 2023, 07:02:47 PM
My V9 has no tach but I don’t miss it. I always did shift by feel on all my bikes.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: John A on January 15, 2023, 07:25:24 PM
I want to know what the original question asked: what’s your Favorite rpm to shift. I interpret that to mean what’s the most fun rpm to shift at. Otherwise it’s a what’s your normal shift points question. For me on a big block five speed it’s third to fourth around 5700 and up, going past the trucks on a mountain road. Then on up to 7500 or so for fourth to fifth shift.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 15, 2023, 09:37:25 PM
I want to know what the original question asked: what’s your Favorite rpm to shift. I interpret that to mean what’s the most fun rpm to shift at. Otherwise it’s a what’s your normal shift points question. For me on a big block five speed it’s third to fourth around 5700 and up, going past the trucks on a mountain road. Then on up to 7500 or so for fourth to fifth shift.

You get the 'I was paying attention award  :boozing:"
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: John A on January 16, 2023, 12:01:49 PM
Maybe there’s more Convert riders on here than we thought . :grin:
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 16, 2023, 01:04:06 PM
Don' need no steenking tach. Just feel it.  :grin: :bike-037:
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Joliet Jim on January 17, 2023, 07:39:24 AM
on the 02 Stone about 4k
on the Beast about 5500-6000
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: Clifton on January 19, 2023, 12:38:46 PM
All over the place depending on how hard I'm accelerating and up hill or down, but generally anywhere between 3,300 to 6,500 or so. Probably 90% of my shifting is between 3,500 and 5,500.
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: berniebee on January 19, 2023, 01:01:36 PM
The correct answer, of course, is to shift at exactly 4,376 rpm as indicated on your Veglia precision instrument. 
Title: Re: Favorite RPM to change gears?
Post by: s1120 on January 20, 2023, 04:13:43 AM
My 02 stone metal is my first Guzzi, and it has no tach. So really I have no idea. I shift by feel, but from one day to the next depending on your mood feel can be different. SO no idea..  I do miss not having a tach. Its on my list of mods to do to the bike for sure.