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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kballowe on March 18, 2023, 09:20:40 AM
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I've been watching the motorcycle market, and it appears to be "breaking loose" just a bit.
Inventories are coming up and I am keeping a close watch on the used market. Not so many Guzzi out there, though.
Whatcha looking at ?
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The Super Meteor is the only one that has caught my eye ,
But I'm trying to talk myself out of it ! That would be trading the 350 Meteor in on it , and the 350 Meteor is a Sweet Little Ride !! :grin:
kballowe , which one has caught your eye this time ? Sometimes I think I should have kept that V-9 Roamer you sold me , but it just didn't handle as well as the V7 does. :undecided:
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I am well past the super saturation point, but if a Galletto was to become available I wouldn't be able to resist.
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Hi David,
The Moto Guzzi V100 is out of service and ready to go! Can you send me the information on your trade, so we can finalize this for you?
The latest message from our closest dealer. Waiting to here if I get a fair shake on trading the Tuono
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kballowe , which one has caught your eye this time ?
I recently picked up a Royal Enfield Meteor 350 and am having a lot of fun with it.
But hey, that doesn't stop me from looking for the next perfect bike !
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I've been buying a bike a year lately. I've gotta break this (bad?) habit. Seems like it is fun to get one setup the way I like it the first year, the ride it a second year and then move on to the next. I keep two in stock and rotate through them. Getting the itch again, I keep telling myself NO! :angry:
kk
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I'll be checking out the Super Meteor when it becomes available, as well. My riding is pretty much local; no need for a big bike or a new bike. Once in a blue moon I jump on the highway to go eat with some amigos. Usually the DR650 is enough, but if the 650 Meteor fits me well, I'll trade in or sell one of my thumpers.
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I’m with Dave in the super saturated camp. I’ve got a v7 Sport, Jota, Laverda Montjuic, Laverda 500 bitsa race homage and SL125 all in various stages of working or waiting. I would jump on a clean affordable Lambretta scooter to build for Sara though.
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Fort 9 makes the Yamaha TW200 look like a piece of total enjoyment.
Nick Adams makes the Convert seem like pure serenity.
My Dear Wife makes the addition of a fourth bike seem very hazardous.
So maybe I'll overhaul the Ural?
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Fort 9 makes the Yamaha TW200 look like a piece of total enjoyment.
Nick Adams makes the Convert seem like pure serenity.
My Dear Wife makes the addition of a fourth bike seem very hazardous.
So maybe I'll overhaul the Ural?
Once you make it past 10 bikes the wife doesn't notice new ones. :laugh:
Ural, now your talking! I already have 2 so a 3rd would be very hoggish.
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...maybe trade in your '22 toward a '23 to get the two into one factory exhaust?
I was at Holopaw Thursday looking at the '23 models. Sure are good looking.
But mine is still running fine and I do have that full time two wheel drive.
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This Yamaha is really flipping all the right switches for me. I don't see myself shopping for some time.
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I'd go for a Nouvo Falcone Polizzia, LM II, Galetto.
I do keep an eye on a 2020 V85 TT ,'new 'unsold Stock at my Dealer.
None Guzzi,... KAWA Z550 and DKW 250 . A vintage Scooter is also on the List plus a Sidecar Rig, but currently have one of our Cars in the hospital plus the wife 'needs' new appliances :rolleyes:
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Well as the V85 is barely a year old I have been thinking it may be time for a new dirt bike. The current Husaberg 500 is a 2014 I got new and is the longest I have had any bike. Wanting something a bit smaller and lighter and the Beta 390 seems to be just perfect. :grin:
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Nope. I have no interest in anything brand new and have limited interest in getting anything else for old bikes at this point. Kinda btdt. The garage and shops are full of what I really want now and resources, especially time, have disappeared recently. so I’m content to enjoy having what I have, even if that only means appreciating them as static art until my schedule is once again my own to enjoy.
But as always, if & when the right deal on something special is encountered, it will likely come home with me. Ben helped me realize there’s probably room in the office for more bike(s)..….
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I'm always looking...... Hence the Baby Breva I brought home last month.
Fortunately I am super content with my current bikes.
Right now the upcoming Buell super or adventure touring model is the one bike that
catches my eye and has REAL interest. Of course it's only in pre-production.
And won't be in the market till 2025 probably the same time as the v100 Stelvio.
If I buy something new it wouldn't be until then and those of the top two contenders.
The new Blue V85 really caught my eye until I got a good look at it and saw that the angle of the blue and white on the tank and side covers is angled the wrong way (to my eye)
The Mandello has lost its appeal at this point, and though several bikes catch my eye
They lose interest if they run a chain rather than shaft.
I definitely want to add a 1970s El Dorado or Ambassador. If I find the right deal
I will grab one right away.
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I would like a 1971 Ambassador, down here in the Great Southern land I would not say the market is "breaking loose" but in the last month I have noticed a few bikes that would have been bought quickly 6 months ago not move or move after a price drop. It is hard to say what the next few months or year may bring but the financial stress some are under may be enough lubrication for things to break free. Prices have a bit to drop to be where they were three years ago so the only people that will loose real money are those that have bought as an investment in the last few years and need to sell.
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I like the idea of a royal Enfield classic 350. I would like to test ride a Honda Fury.
Test rode the Indian FTR a couple times. Test rode the Triumph Scrambler XE.
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I bought a new 2022 Kawasaki W800 last August, and a new 2022 Moto Guzzi V85tt this last January. I loved them both.
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Well I'm a man so I'm always thinking about it...
I do like the idea of the V100. S model naturally. Then I start to do the mental mathematics and add freight, prep, taxes, tags and end up at $20K+ . And that's when I think about those two completely paid for nearly new bikes in the garage. I'm sure I'll eventually watch enough YouTube reviews that it will break my soul and I'll buy one in a moment of weakness, but not today Satan....
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I'd really like to have a new Harley Street Bob or Softail (which are basically the same thing) with that 8-valve motor.
Ah, but they are ugly ugly ugly. If they come up with chrome and decent metallic paint THEN I would get one. Maybe.
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Agreed. The newish H-D's really look made to a price. Simply not attractive like they used to be, IMHO.
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Not this year or next because I got hammered by the Unholt Triumvirate of High Taxes (California), High Living Expenses (again California) and a huge drop in my 401K.
A man's gotta dream:
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I like the idea of a royal Enfield classic 350. I would like to test ride a Honda Fury.
Test rode the Indian FTR a couple times. Test rode the Triumph Scrambler XE.
I took a quick ride on the Triumph Scrambler last spring and I gotta tell you I connected with it pretty much the second I sat on it! It fit me to a T, and really all boxes were checked during the ride. The Fun/project money is all all going to other things [old convertible, and a powerwagon im waking up..] that there is zero chance a new bike if finding a home in my garage. Two things most on the want list are a sidecar rig, and also a smaller beater. Something to just jump on, ride to work, dont care if it rains on, or riding on the salt covered roads on those nice days in the winter months that come up..
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I keep telling myself NO. I traded my Audace for a Triumph T120 a bit over a year ago. I didn't think the difference was going to be too much but due to dealer fees and 10 lbs of flesh to California I wound up with a pretty good balance. But due to some frugality and side hustles I paid it off a couple of weeks ago. My 2019 V7lll Special is also paid for so I think I will stick with what I have and be happy.
kk
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I took a quick ride on the Triumph Scrambler last spring and I gotta tell you I connected with it pretty much the second I sat on it! It fit me to a T, and really all boxes were checked during the ride. The Fun/project money is all all going to other things [old convertible, and a powerwagon im waking up..] that there is zero chance a new bike if finding a home in my garage. Two things most on the want list are a sidecar rig, and also a smaller beater. Something to just jump on, ride to work, dont care if it rains on, or riding on the salt covered roads on those nice days in the winter months that come up..
The scrambler has everything but a practical side when you look at what the same $$$$$$ can buy. Love the suspension, the look, the ergonomics, the photogenic quality, but not the price. The power is lost on me. Don't need interstate passing power on a bike not designed for the interstate.
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Well I'm a man so I'm always thinking about it...
I do like the idea of the V100. S model naturally. Then I start to do the mental mathematics and add freight, prep, taxes, tags and end up at $20K+ . And that's when I think about those two completely paid for nearly new bikes in the garage. I'm sure I'll eventually watch enough YouTube reviews that it will break my soul and I'll buy one in a moment of weakness, but not today Satan....
The V85TT is my sport touring bike. But, a sport touring bike that I don't mind taking down a dirt road or doing a water crossing on.
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I have friends that keep steering me toward a BMW 1250 GS or GSA. Heck, they even make a "low" model now - for us guys with short legs. Still, I'm hesitant to let go of the $$$. There's a lot of electronics on the new ones, but I think I'd just as well have an old air head.
Besides, I have this liter VSTROM. It says "Adventure", right on the side. :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
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No way am I thinking about a new bike. Not for one second. Nope, not gonna do it....
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maybe a test ride
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A Triumph T120 Bonneville is less money. It is tuned more for a flat torque curve than horsepower. I like mine except for the chain.
kk
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I have friends that keep steering me toward a BMW 1250 GS or GSA. Heck, they even make a "low" model now - for us guys with short legs. Still, I'm hesitant to let go of the $$$. There's a lot of electronics on the new ones, but I think I'd just as well have an old air head.
Besides, I have this liter VSTROM. It says "Adventure", right on the side. :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
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I bought the first year 2002 VStrom and owned it for 17 years before I sold it to a good friend of mine and I bought my current V 85.
Dollar for dollar, the VStroms, both large and small, are remarkable machines. Ride the wheels off that white beast.
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The V85TT is my sport touring bike. But, a sport touring bike that I don't mind taking down a dirt road or doing a water crossing on.
I tell myself that same thing every time I see a post about or a picture of the V100. So far its working....
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Buying a new bike?
No.... :sad:
Thinking about it?
All the time...(*SIGH*) :laugh: :grin: :wink:
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It’s a strange thing for me.
I’ve had so long with my Norge and now know it so well, the V100 would feel like an attractive flighty stranger that I’d been enticed by. The promise of “good times” to an ageing old biker by a young prospect, when my current long term partner has stayed the course and looked after me when I knew I was at the limit of what I should be doing, is an elixir that many old men before me have taken.
I don’t want to find out the truth of how much “better” the Mandello is, because the sun will then begin to set on my relationship with my Norge and I want to prevent that.
There is something (for me) that can only happen after 16 years and 209,000 km and I won’t live long enough on bikes to arrive at that point on a Mandello, so in a very real sense I will be pursuing something that time will not allow me to achieve and I’ll be looking at my Norge on her centrestand over in the corner saying to me…
“What did I do wrong…” ?
The answer is simple…Nothing.
There are many guys who look at their partners and decry the lines on their face or the changing silhouette and want to look elsewhere, often to bolster their own fading sense of self worth and inner confidence, when all it does is highlight their deficiencies.
It’s the lines on her face and the familiar curves that bind me to my Norge and for that reason and the more esoteric ones above, that lead me to the conclusion…?
No, I don’t “want” another bike.
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It’s a strange thing for me.
I’ve had so long with my Norge and now know it so well, the V100 would feel like an attractive flighty stranger that I’d been enticed by. The promise of “good times” to an ageing old biker by a young prospect, when my current long term partner has stayed the course and looked after me when I knew I was at the limit of what I should be doing, is an elixir that many old men before me have taken.
I don’t want to find out the truth of how much “better” the Mandello is, because the sun will then begin to set on my relationship with my Norge and I want to prevent that.
There is something (for me) that can only happen after 16 years and 209,000 km and I won’t live long enough on bikes to arrive at that point on a Mandello, so in a very real sense I will be pursuing something that time will not allow me to achieve and I’ll be looking at my Norge on her centrestand over in the corner saying to me…
“What did I do wrong…” ?
The answer is simple…Nothing.
There are many guys who look at heir partners and decry the lines on the lines on their face or the changing silhouette and want to look elsewhere, often to bolster their own fading sense of self worth and inner confidence, when all it does is highlight their deficiencies.
It’s the lines on her face and the familiar curves that bind me to my Norge and for that reason and the more esoteric ones above, that lead me to the conclusion…?
No, I don’t “want” another bike.
Deep thoughts indeed. Are you sure you are talking about a motorcycle?
As a guy in a bar once told me, "What's the difference between your wife and a motorcycle? A motorcycle doesn't divorce you if you hop on another..."
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The motorcycle market has certainly been abnormal since I the the last few years. I have gotten some exceptional deals as a buyer. Actually now it seems like the market is stabilizing a bit and the good deals are fewer and farther between.
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Deep thoughts indeed. Are you sure you are talking about a motorcycle?
As a guy in a bar once told me, "What's the difference between your wife and a motorcycle? A motorcycle doesn't divorce you if you hop on another..."
Yes, but I did not try to hide the metaphorical connection between the two schools of thought.
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Agreed. The newish H-D's really look made to a price. Simply not attractive like they used to be, IMHO.
Hard disagree.
I think you're confusing "made to a different aesthetic" with "made to a price".
As much as I was misty-eyed about my 96 EVO RK my 2016 is better in every single way (but mass).
And honestly I think the new Softails are da bomb where the originals just were bombs.
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I want a scooter.
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I went to a Kawasaki demo day late last fall and the only bike that intrigued me was the z900rs Cafe. The ride and the sound were intoxicating. The radiator killed it for me.
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No attempt to hide the radiator or the radiator cap.
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Buying a new bike?
No.... :sad:
Thinking about it?
All the time...(*SIGH*) :laugh: :grin: :wink:
THIS^^ :drool:
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A Vespa. They don't give them away, no matter how old they are. Depreciation? Not Vespas.
kk
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I want a scooter.
Have had 3 scooters, 2013 Honda pcx 150, 2013 BMW c600 sport, 2013 Honda fsc 600 SilverWing. SilverWing is a keeper. Paul
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What Huzo said. I am happy with mine. The Triumph has been with me since 1973, my Cal since '01. My Monster is the new girl from '19. Have owned over forty machines, these are the keepers.
Larry
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dang, just when I'm getting ready to list my very well sorted Breva for $3200! (3k to forum members :evil:)
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I'd consider one of these if Suzuki would put a realistic price on it. As-is, it's a few bucks shy of the Ducati Desert X, H-D Pan America and non-DCT Africa Twin 1100. I also like their new GSX-S1000+. I could see that replacing my Versys 1000.
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My problem is like a hockey team with a salary cap. I need to remove one to add a different one.
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My problem is like a hockey team with a salary cap. I need to remove one to add a different one.
My problem with a new Mandello is a bit like celery (sic) too…
At first it will be new and shiny and won’t flex under hard use, but it will go limp after the honeymoon period wears off… :wink: