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Title: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Njdubz on April 10, 2023, 07:48:02 AM
Hi all, looking at buying my first used V7 Stone and the final 2 candidates are a 2017 (4000 miles) and a 2019 (2800 miles). Both bikes are in great condition, with the 2019 being a 5 hour drive away. My question: are there any differences between the 2 years I am missing (I cant find any difference in specs) ? Will the 2017 lose value faster just because of the year, or should it just be mileage and condition that matter most? They are both roughly asking the same price

Thanks in advance for any advice helping make the decision easier !
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Dirk_S on April 10, 2023, 07:57:35 AM
You sure that 2019 is definitely a 2019? Is it a Stone Night Pack, or a standard Stone? I ask because https://www.parts-motoguzzi.com/moto-guzzi-motorcycles/750-MOTO-GUZZI-MOTORCYCLES/V7/2019 (https://www.parts-motoguzzi.com/moto-guzzi-motorcycles/750-MOTO-GUZZI-MOTORCYCLES/V7/2019) doesn’t show a normal 2019 Stone for North America. I don’t guarantee that website is 100% accurate, but it’s been my go-to as of late.  So maybe it’s a 2018, in which case the engine is the exact same as a 2017. If it’s indeed a 2019, and it happens to be a Stone Night Pack, they have some engine differences (different crank that may or may not be interchangeable.

All that said, I haven’t heard of any pointed thoughts regarding an earlier III vs a later one. They’re the first of the hemi heads, and lasted four years (with varying dressage and some internal updates) before Euro emissions forced an update, so that says something!
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 10, 2023, 08:13:11 AM
Most Guzzi's hold value like a strainer holds water.

Want to know how to make $5000?  Buy a $10,000 Guzzi then sell it.
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Kev m on April 10, 2023, 01:06:44 PM
I bet they are probably asking too much...
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 10, 2023, 03:37:56 PM
I bet they are probably asking too much...

In the real world, most likely. Here in never never land most would value them with their heart and not their wallet.

Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Joliet Jim on April 10, 2023, 04:18:33 PM
Most Guzzi's hold value like a strainer holds water.

Want to know how to make $5000?  Buy a $10,000 Guzzi then sell it.

In ten years my 02 Stone lost about $5k in value but has held rock steady for the last 12.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Tkelly on April 10, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
Who buys a motorcycle based on resale value,every one I bought was to ride and I never worry about selling until it is time to move on,recognizing that depreciation is the trade off for the joy of riding.
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Kev m on April 10, 2023, 05:32:38 PM
I've got a local Harley dealer chain who opened a dedicated all brand used bike outlet.

They've had a 2019 V7III Stone for at least 6-8 months. They're currently still asking MORE than I paid for my V7III new (a Carbon Dark that had a ~3k higher MSRP).

https://cyclesmartnj.com/inventory/462667/2019-moto-guzzi-v7-iii-stone

And at $7995 it's more than some dealers are asking for leftover 2021 V7 850 Stones:

$6999

https://www.xps-usa.com/default.asp?page=xInventoryDetail&id=11595152&p=2&make=moto%20guzzi&s=Year&d=D&fr=xAllInventory


Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: twowheeladdict on April 11, 2023, 06:30:30 AM
Who buys a motorcycle based on resale value,every one I bought was to ride and I never worry about selling until it is time to move on,recognizing that depreciation is the trade off for the joy of riding.

Consider the source.  Hasn't had one in years and just trolls on here.
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: twowheeladdict on April 11, 2023, 06:34:24 AM
Hi all, looking at buying my first used V7 Stone and the final 2 candidates are a 2017 (4000 miles) and a 2019 (2800 miles). Both bikes are in great condition, with the 2019 being a 5 hour drive away. My question: are there any differences between the 2 years I am missing (I cant find any difference in specs) ? Will the 2017 lose value faster just because of the year, or should it just be mileage and condition that matter most? They are both roughly asking the same price

Thanks in advance for any advice helping make the decision easier !

The 2019 has better shocks.  For the same price I'd pick the 2019, unless you love the color of the '17 much more.  Get the VIN for both, call your insurance company and ask what the total loss value for each would be.  Definitely wouldn't pay more than that for them. 
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 11, 2023, 06:53:49 AM
Consider the source.  Hasn't had one in years and just trolls on here.

Don't believe everything you think you know.
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: bad Chad on April 11, 2023, 11:23:05 AM
Don't believe everything you think you know.

Bingo!   TWA, your way off.
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: twowheeladdict on April 11, 2023, 01:01:58 PM
Don't believe everything you think you know.

Only know what I read.  I don't assume beyond that. 
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 11, 2023, 02:15:35 PM
Only know what I read.  I don't assume beyond that.

Do tell, what have you read?
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Dirk_S on April 11, 2023, 02:18:35 PM
I’d like to break up the online scuffle and stamp it as unnecessary. No, I’m not a mod, but I do put in some $$ (hardly) into the forum for its USEFUL content. For the love of Pete (Roper), help the OP out and stop throwing jabs.
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Huzo on April 11, 2023, 02:47:09 PM
Who buys a motorcycle based on resale value,every one I bought was to ride and I never worry about selling until it is time to move on,recognizing that depreciation is the trade off for the joy of riding.
Touche’.
My Norge cost around AUD 22,000 in 2007
It’s now “worth” around five grand, but it’s more valuable than the day I bought it…How does that work ?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2017 vs 2019 V7 Stone Values
Post by: Huzo on April 11, 2023, 02:49:56 PM
I’d like to break up the online scuffle and stamp it as unnecessary. No, I’m not a mod, but I do put in some $$ (hardly) into the forum for its USEFUL content. For the love of Pete (Roper), help the OP out and stop throwing jabs.
Yes..!
It’s his first post and this is what he sees…. :rolleyes: