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Title: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 25, 2023, 03:51:12 AM
Hi to all , I have two V7 lll Stone 750 ( 2019 night pack and 2021 basic) and since I bought the 2021 I have noticed that don't perform same ( worst) also makes so pinging or wrist pin sound like with only 3800km. Already adjust the valves and performs a little better but not , the same as the 2019. Also don't pass 170 km/h , and I think it can do a little more.
(https://i.ibb.co/VTxw1Tj/1682412504049.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VTxw1Tj)

(https://i.ibb.co/vYbx3rX/1682412504053.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vYbx3rX)

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So finally received my ECU cable and read both ECU - The 2019 have a map dated 2019-6-19 and the 2021 a map dated 2017-10-12. So the newer have a older map inside.

So I'm going to put the 2019 map into the 2021 and test.

Can someone share a newer map .bin file or this is the latest for my bikes?

Or any other suggestions?

Thx
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: chrisfer on April 25, 2023, 05:26:51 AM
Same software (464AVFAL) => same map.

Pinging is current on this motor and may be due to a very slight difference in compression (and even exhaust valve, timing, and lambda sensors...).

Try a richer map for V7 III 750 : http://forum.guzzi-passion.com/viewtopic.php?t=24215

Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: HarveyMushman on April 25, 2023, 05:39:39 AM
Or any other suggestions?

Try Beetle's map: www.griso.org
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 25, 2023, 06:45:11 AM
Same software (464AVFAL) => same map.

Pinging is current on this motor and may be due to a very slight difference in compression (and even exhaust valve, timing, and lambda sensors...).

Try a richer map for V7 III 750 : http://forum.guzzi-passion.com/viewtopic.php?t=24215

So the maps are the same , even with different dates? So how to explain same engines, same maps , and different performance? Should I consider that my newest with only 3800km is in the break in period?

Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 25, 2023, 06:46:56 AM
Try Beetle's map: www.griso.org

Will have that in consideration. Thx 😊
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Vagrant on April 25, 2023, 08:24:08 AM
I believe the 19 is a E4 bike but the 21 is an E5. Totally different specs. I think upmap is the only choice on the 21. Also isn't the 21 an 850?
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 25, 2023, 08:49:03 AM
I believe the 19 is a E4 bike but the 21 is an E5. Totally different specs. I think upmap is the only choice on the 21. Also isn't the 21 an 850?

Nop. Both 750. Mine was the last of his kind.
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 25, 2023, 09:28:18 AM
Here we go : V7 lll Chrisfer tune 66 custom map.


(https://i.ibb.co/3R0x4GH/tmp-cam-3473121559885839471.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3R0x4GH)

(https://i.ibb.co/QHhCT8h/tmp-cam-1751994286879370201.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QHhCT8h)
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 25, 2023, 01:48:27 PM
Same software (464AVFAL) => same map.

Pinging is current on this motor and may be due to a very slight difference in compression (and even exhaust valve, timing, and lambda sensors...).

Try a richer map for V7 III 750 : http://forum.guzzi-passion.com/viewtopic.php?t=24215

which version do you advise? The latest V7III_Chrisfer_Tune _66 or V7III_Chrisfer_Tune _66_igni_origin?
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: chrisfer on April 25, 2023, 02:07:08 PM
which version do you advise? The latest V7III_Chrisfer_Tune _66 or V7III_Chrisfer_Tune _66_igni_origin?
V7III_Chrisfer_Tune _66
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 25, 2023, 02:10:40 PM
V7III_Chrisfer_Tune _66

Already there then. Totally forgot to reset the auto learning values after upload the new map.
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: pauldaytona on April 28, 2023, 03:56:34 PM
The date you see in the map, is the date the map was put on the ecu.
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: Beavis on April 28, 2023, 06:31:44 PM
The date you see in the map, is the date the map was put on the ecu.

indeed. But strange to have a 2017 map in a 2021 bike. :)
Title: Re: Comparing ECU maps 2019/2021 V7 lll Stone 750
Post by: guzzisteve on April 28, 2023, 07:08:52 PM
indeed. But strange to have a 2017 map in a 2021 bike. :)
Not if nothing has changed on the engine. Motor wise same stuff.