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Title: Like button
Post by: Luap McKeever on February 11, 2024, 06:26:57 AM
In soliciting suggestions for modifications in 2024, a suggestion was the addition of a "like" button. Kinda 'Facebooky", but the premise of it is to show support for a post without posting something.

We had it here a few years ago but it was chastised into oblivion for various reasons. It was also supported for various reasons.

So, to keep my word and actually look into all of these suggestions, I'd like to know your thoughts on bringing the like button back.

Thanks,
Luap
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: s1120 on February 11, 2024, 06:38:30 AM
I like the "like" myself. You might not have anything to say about a post, but gives a way to show support of it. We went through the same thing at a site I help run, and got a lot of flack at the start. We got a lot of the "its like facebook"commonts, but once people saw that it didnt really take away anything, the posts were still coming, just less of the basic one or two word replies. Only really difference on that board was the poster did get a notification, that really turned out to be not a huge deal. I don't think we had a complaint on it in years.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Dirk_S on February 11, 2024, 06:44:29 AM
Likes or +1s can also help trim down unnecessary comments and ultimately the length of threads. Facebook does have some good things about it. Plus, why NOT have a feature that shows a stupidly simple sign of support?
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Wayne Orwig on February 11, 2024, 08:10:18 AM
Likes or +1s can also help trim down unnecessary comments and ultimately the length of threads. Facebook does have some good things about it. Plus, why NOT have a feature that shows a stupidly simple sign of support?

 :thumb:

(To add to the post)
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on February 11, 2024, 08:35:53 AM
i LIKE it

The Like button here was really shortlived! I feel like we had it less than a month? but it has its uses and a place.  Just please dont send an email to me anytime someone 'likes' my post and I would love to see it back
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: n3303j on February 11, 2024, 08:40:01 AM
"LIKE" button? Sounds like something left over from a grade school student's need of validation provided by his peers.

But if you must simplify a post response to a simple push of a button instead of an author generated response please make it least binary and add a "DISLIKE" button as a second option.

And since life isn't always black or white there could be a "MEH" button to reflect the fact the posters work was read and considered of no significant value whatsoever.

(Or everything could be left as is and anyone who felt strongly about a post could type so and why. Excess Bytes of text certainly are not a problem in this terabyte world.)
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: AJ Huff on February 11, 2024, 09:04:27 AM
Oh
I got smacked down for liking the like button last time! I like the idea of bringing the like button back. I like it!

-AJ
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Dave Swanson on February 11, 2024, 09:09:18 AM
I like the LIKE button!  Many times is seems redundant and tiresome to post that you approve or like something a WG member has posted.  The option to like the post would be great. 
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Craig in Alabama on February 11, 2024, 09:16:35 AM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: lti_57 on February 11, 2024, 09:19:10 AM
I too,like the “ Like “ button idea.
I use it on other forums to agree with an answer.
Instead of repeating what 5 other people just said.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Dirk_S on February 11, 2024, 09:20:08 AM
Another benefit to the LIKE button besides trimming the responses and overall thread length—the threads aren’t continuously bumped to the top just for simple nods of approval.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: PJPR01 on February 11, 2024, 09:22:18 AM
Like button is a nice feature...most forums have it, subtle and easy way to show support.

Other forums have little Icons you can use:
Like
Laugh
Confused
Sad

Probably too much, but a Like button would be nice!
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: inditx on February 11, 2024, 09:30:55 AM
Like it  :thumb:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: cliffrod on February 11, 2024, 09:40:14 AM
As a spokesman for the Button family, I fully endorse the addition of the Like Button to WildGuzzi as a logical component of our quest for total world domination.   

There are persistent rumors of attempts to add a Like Smith or Like Patel to various websites.  No proof of such efforts, much less successful examples of implementation, have yet to be verified.  Instead, the Like Button has set the standard for showing support and positive reinforcement or lack thereof.  It is our great privilege to contribute some level of logical function to forums around the world.

Thank you.

Respectfully, AC Button

P.S.  Please refer to our comparable success with our On & Off Button, A/C Button (my favorite- very cool…),Panic Button and Easy Button programs as needed.



Seriously,  another (relatively small) forum I enjoy went through transition to tapatalk.  Non-text Responses including Like Button were added.  It’s gone well.  There is a small notation under a member’s avatar showing how many likes they’ve given, along with how many posts they’ve made.  I don’t think the Likes counter is necessary, but that’s just my opinion.  Being able to click a like vs typing support is a plus imho.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Zenermaniac on February 11, 2024, 09:49:13 AM
I agree with Mayor_of_BBQ. Bring back the like button but don’t email me every time someone clicks it. I get a couple hundred emails a day to weed through as it is.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Tom H on February 11, 2024, 09:51:40 AM
i LIKE it

The Like button here was really shortlived! I feel like we had it less than a month? but it has its uses and a place.  Just please dont send an email to me anytime someone 'likes' my post and I would love to see it back

 :thumb:

I just clicked the like button.

Tom
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: jcctx on February 11, 2024, 09:54:12 AM
easier than typing a smiley face ;  :>)!!
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 11, 2024, 09:55:36 AM
"LIKE" button? Sounds like something left over from a grade school student's need of validation provided by his peers.

But if you must simplify a post response to a simple push of a button instead of an author generated response please make it least binary and add a "DISLIKE" button as a second option.

And since life isn't always black or white there could be a "MEH" button to reflect the fact the posters work was read and considered of no significant value whatsoever.

(Or everything could be left as is and anyone who felt strongly about a post could type so and why. Excess Bytes of text certainly are not a problem in this terabyte world.)

Amen!  I REALLY LIKE this response!

But, in the name of "added value," and simulating the actual complexity of life, how about a numerical score?  0 thru 100?

Kinda "like" you are back in school taking a test!

100 is a really "LIKE" score, 0 is a really "DISLIKE" score, and 50 is a "MEH" score!

In all seriousness, I don't have any strong opinions on this, other than I suspect it may cause more headaches for the moderators.  I would suspect the reduction of effort to post a response increases discord on the internet.  If everyone had to pay a dime, or do 5 pushups, each time they post, I think all internet forums would be much nicer.

I think the emoji's already have enough "instantaneous responses" covered.

Hopefully, most members here are posting to share knowledge or gain knowledge than to seek approval.  It's a tough world out there!
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 11, 2024, 10:00:02 AM
As a spokesman for the Button family, I fully endorse the addition of the Like Button to WildGuzzi as a logical component of our quest for total world domination.   

There are persistent rumors of attempts to add a Like Smith or Like Patel to various websites.  No proof of such efforts, much less successful examples of implementation, have yet to be verified.  Instead, the Like Button has set the standard for showing support and positive reinforcement or lack thereof.  It is our great privilege to contribute some level of logical function to forums around the world.

Thank you.

Respectfully, AC Button

P.S.  Please refer to our comparable success with our On & Off Button, A/C Button (my favorite- very cool…),Panic Button and Easy Button programs as needed.



Seriously,  another (relatively small) forum I enjoy went through transition to tapatalk.  Non-text Responses including Like Button were added.  It’s gone well.  There is a small notation under a member’s avatar showing how many likes they’ve given, along with how many posts they’ve made.  I don’t think the Likes counter is necessary, but that’s just my opinion.  Being able to click a like vs typing support is a plus imho.


Since I just knocked out 5 pushups as preemptive penance.....

How about an E-STOP button?

Or a "button your lips" button?  No offense intended to the Zipper family...... 
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: motogoro on February 11, 2024, 10:06:15 AM
 :thumb:  <----  this is all I need.   A "like" button may cut down on inane discourse.  However, aren't we here to 'discuss' Guzzi topics.  Tangents and off topic comments can be very entertaining.   :wink:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Vagrant on February 11, 2024, 10:31:33 AM
I like like!
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Dirk_S on February 11, 2024, 10:47:04 AM
:thumb:  <----  this is all I need.   A "like" button may cut down on inane discourse.  However, aren't we here to 'discuss' Guzzi topics.  Tangents and off topic comments can be very entertaining.   :wink:

I don’t think it cuts down on discourse. It cuts down on redundant :thumb: responses that tend to populate a thread and can over time make some of the topics annoying—perhaps unbearable—to read through at a future date; it can be bad enough with overly generic or misleading subject lines like “What are your Thoughts” or “Oh No I Did It Again…”, but while related to inefficiency of our attention, I suppose that’s more a friendly reminder on forum etiquette. Besides, a thread does NOT need to be bumped over other, potentially more engaging, topics, just because someone wanted to add a “+1” comment

It’s kinda like nodding your head while someone is talking, rather than interrupting them just to tell them that you agree, “…now please continue talking.”

Or reviving a 5 year old topic with an unnecessary “Thanks for this!”—hit the Like button on someone’s comment; no need to revive the post for something so menial.

…And it would probably (maybe) cut down on my own responses, which is a positive for EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: faffi on February 11, 2024, 11:15:27 AM
I like i like, or thumbs up, function. It can also be a useful indicator to a person posting if the content is of interest to others, or not. Often, you can post something many like (or not) that does not naturally lend itself to replies or comments, but that could be easy to give feedback to with a like button.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: guzziboy66 on February 11, 2024, 11:26:01 AM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: n3303j on February 11, 2024, 11:47:00 AM
I like i like, or thumbs up, function. It can also be a useful indicator to a person posting if the content is of interest to others, or not. Often, you can post something many like (or not) that does not naturally lend itself to replies or comments, but that could be easy to give feedback to with a like button.

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Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Tom H on February 11, 2024, 12:02:37 PM
There is a downside to a like button. If someone doesn't get many likes, they could get their feelings hurt. Most wouldn't care, but some would.

I do like the like button. Quick and easy way to say I agree to a post. The " :thumb:" also works just fine.

Just sayin',
Tom
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: coast range rider on February 11, 2024, 12:45:04 PM
There is a downside to a like button. If someone doesn't get many likes, they could get their feelings hurt. Most wouldn't care, but some would.

I do like the like button. Quick and easy way to say I agree to a post. The " :thumb:" also works just fine.

Just sayin',
Tom
Tom, "feelings hurt" from too few likes on a forum??? Really? This proves we need a dislike button too, for inane posts like yours. Why should I have to quote a dumb post just to post this:  :violent1:

Tom, I'm sorry I had to use your post as an example. Please grow some if I've hurt your feelings. And don't worry about my agression with new buttons here because I tend to be more of a laugh button guy on other forums.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Tom H on February 11, 2024, 01:10:56 PM
CRR: Did anywhere in my post say that "I" get my feelings hurt if people don't click a like to one of my posts? NO I didn't.

There are some that would go crying to mommy that nobody likes my posts. Those people might give very good answers to questions, but don't get the likes they think they should. So they leave that board.

I look at likes 2 ways. It's nice to see that someone appreciated what I had to say. And also I don't give a rats rear end if someone likes my post or not.

I would think that most people here have been around the block and have thick enough skin for a like to not matter.

Tom
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: ridingron on February 11, 2024, 02:49:34 PM
I'm on about a half dozen forums (not facebook). And although I may agree with, approve of, find useful, interesting or maybe even like, I do not recall ever hitting the "like" icon for any post. Even on joke threads.

If it makes you feel good, go for it. Just wondering what it'll cost/take to add it.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: chuck peterson on February 11, 2024, 03:51:31 PM
Whichever is less worrying/work for moderators? So…a period of using it to found out. 90 grace period to see if it blows up with issues?
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: vintagehoarder on February 11, 2024, 03:53:19 PM
I support a LIKE buttom :thumb:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Moparnut72 on February 11, 2024, 03:55:03 PM
On some other forums I will hit like if someone posts something that is above and beyond the norm or comes up with a solution to a real thorny problem. I sure don't want it to become a dick waving contest or any way to do a dislike. We all need to be adults. I left one HD forum years ago because if a new guy asked a question that had been answered numerous times or the answer was obvious and then got shouted down to never return. Don't need that kind of thing here and have not seen it that I can remember. We don't need a means to go there. So I would use a like button for something that deserves it not just willy nilly.
kk
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: TN Mark on February 11, 2024, 05:03:18 PM
A Like button, yes, of course, please.

Can you also make a particular thread open up to the last post in that thread you read? That’s an excellent feature as it prevents going through an entire thread just to get to the content you haven’t already read. If that’s available now, how do I activate it?
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: coast range rider on February 11, 2024, 05:47:52 PM
CRR: Did anywhere in my post say that "I" get my feelings hurt if people don't click a like to one of my posts? NO I didn't.

There are some that would go crying to mommy that nobody likes my posts. Those people might give very good answers to questions, but don't get the likes they think they should. So they leave that board.

I look at likes 2 ways. It's nice to see that someone appreciated what I had to say. And also I don't give a rats rear end if someone likes my post or not.

I would think that most people here have been around the block and have thick enough skin for a like to not matter.

Tom
Last time I quoted you I was less than 100% serious. I will come back and like your post quoted here now if the higher ups give us that option. I know you don't give a damn about my quoting or liking you. I appreciate that attitude. See what a crappy post I had to leave here because I couldn't simply like your reply.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Tom H on February 11, 2024, 06:32:03 PM
CRR: All good :thumb:

Tom
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: twowheeladdict on February 11, 2024, 07:24:20 PM
 
:thumb:  <----  this is all I need.   A "like" button may cut down on inane discourse.  However, aren't we here to 'discuss' Guzzi topics.  Tangents and off topic comments can be very entertaining.   :wink:


Is just posting   :thumb: Adding to the discussion? 


Especially if you quote a long post to just add the  :thumb:


This ends up cluttering a thread. 


I would like the Like button.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 11, 2024, 07:36:55 PM
Last time I quoted you I was less than 100% serious. I will come back and like your post quoted here now if the higher ups give us that option. I know you don't give a damn about my quoting or liking you. I appreciate that attitude. See what a crappy post I had to leave here because I couldn't simply like your reply.

I salute you coast range rider!  These are the kind of responses that I enjoy.

Paraphrased: "Due to the lack of a Like button, I had to rely on my lack of communication skills.  Sorry about that!"
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 11, 2024, 07:49:09 PM
We could probably make life easier for the moderators by playing a game inside our heads and simply assuming that everyone at WG who read our post(s), likes our post(s) until someone tells us otherwise.

Much kinder to our fragile egos than desiring "likes" that may or may not be forthcoming.

"50 people read my post and no one said I am full of BS!  Wow!  People love me!"

or

"50 people read my post and no one posted a like!  Wow!  People hate me!"

It is an internal game.  External rules, Meh.   :wink:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Tom H on February 11, 2024, 08:14:14 PM
SRE: that is a good way to look at the issue of likes.

Tom
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Kev m on February 11, 2024, 10:50:01 PM
We could probably make life easier for the moderators by playing a game inside our heads and simply assuming that everyone at WG who read our post(s), likes our post(s) until someone tells us otherwise.

Much kinder to our fragile egos than desiring "likes" that may or may not be forthcoming.

"50 people read my post and no one said I am full of BS!  Wow!  People love me!"

or

"50 people read my post and no one posted a like!  Wow!  People hate me!"

It is an internal game.  External rules, Meh.   :wink:

I was gonna stay silent on this but...

Or we could make life easier and not be dicks.

We could treat each other better.

We could not comment negatively if there's nothing asking for it.

We could, and this is gonna be tricky for a lot of people, not go crying to Mommy (admin) when you read something you don't like.

I actually get the reason why a like button is useful. A quick way to say "thumbs up" and that's useful.

I equally realize why a quick way to say thumbs down is a stupid idea. I just emboldens the cucks to lash out when they are too scared to the rest of the time.

No really, when you're dealing with the unwashed masses there are a whole lot of whiny crybabies who are gonna complain. Giving the jerks an easy way to leave negative feedback is just encouraging bad behavior by the socially inept.

Like buttons are positive feedback, regardless of the receivers motivation, they at least speak well of the grantor.

Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 12, 2024, 06:54:03 AM
I was gonna stay silent on this but...

Or we could make life easier and not be dicks.

We could treat each other better.

We could not comment negatively if there's nothing asking for it.

We could, and this is gonna be tricky for a lot of people, not go crying to Mommy (admin) when you read something you don't like.

I actually get the reason why a like button is useful. A quick way to say "thumbs up" and that's useful.

I equally realize why a quick way to say thumbs down is a stupid idea. I just emboldens the cucks to lash out when they are too scared too the rest of the time.

No really, when you're dealing with the unwashed masses there are a whole lot of whiny crybabies who are gonna complain. Giving the jerks an easy way to leave negative feedback is just encouraging bad behavior by the socially inept.

Like buttons are positive feedback, regardless of the receivers motivation, they at least speak well of the grantor.

Very well said Kev m.

The eternal conflict between transmitter and receiver. 
What occurs in the minds of both is always a mystery, and the response of the latter to the opinion of the former is always extremely subjective.

I suspect that is why eBay has banned negative evaluations.

Viktor Frankl:  "Between stimulus and response, man has the ability to choose."

Eleanor Roosevelt:  "No one can make me feel inferior without my consent!"

Dad used to criticize us with "If you can't say anything nice, than don't say anything!" just before he hit us!!  Seemed kind of contradictory at the time.....

Luckily, Luap's arm aren't infinitely long.....   :wink:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Kev m on February 12, 2024, 07:29:04 AM
Very well said Kev m.

The eternal conflict between transmitter and receiver. 
What occurs in the minds of both is always a mystery, and the response of the latter to the opinion of the former is always extremely subjective.

I suspect that is why eBay has banned negative evaluations.

Viktor Frankl:  "Between stimulus and response, man has the ability to choose."

Eleanor Roosevelt:  "No one can make me feel inferior without my consent!"

Dad used to criticize us with "If you can't say anything nice, than don't say anything!" just before he hit us!!  Seemed kind of contradictory at the time.....

Luckily, Luap's arm aren't infinitely long.....   :wink:


- Like -
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: John A on February 12, 2024, 10:26:46 AM

The eternal conflict between transmitter and receiver. 








It’s closely related to a concept called “ fundamental attribution error “ where it’s faster to attribute a person’s motives to their personality rather than other external influences resulting in conflict between strangers. Here is more https://effectiviology.com/fundamental-attribution-error/
The lack of visual feedback make things like road rage and internet squabbling more likely.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: faffi on February 12, 2024, 12:21:01 PM
A Like button, yes, of course, please.

Can you also make a particular thread open up to the last post in that thread you read? That’s an excellent feature as it prevents going through an entire thread just to get to the content you haven’t already read. If that’s available now, how do I activate it?

Click on `Show unread posts since last visit' and you can click 'New' and get directly to the first of the New messages. For long, older threads, you can at least click on the last page.

I have not checked if it is possible to sort the threads from last to oldest message, which would sort what I think you are asking for.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Huzo on February 12, 2024, 01:01:11 PM
I’ve noticed over the journey, that the interesting threads get about one response for every ten reads.
A “like” button will tend to alter the intent of the response from educational to purely entertaining. It just becomes a mechanism for stand off types, to pile on when there’s blood in the water.

It’s just an opportunity for non communicative types to shout….”Yeah….! What he said…!”
I don’t favour it… :popcorn:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Huzo on February 12, 2024, 01:04:58 PM
I was gonna stay silent on this but...
Yet you did not Kev.
Why was your initial tendancy biased towards “staying silent…”
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Dirk_S on February 12, 2024, 01:32:49 PM
I’ve noticed over the journey, that the interesting threads get about one response for every ten reads.
A “like” button will tend to alter the intent of the response from educational to purely entertaining. It just becomes a mechanism for stand off types, to pile on when there’s blood in the water.

It’s just an opportunity for non communicative types to shout….”Yeah….! What he said…!”
I don’t favour it… :popcorn:

Some of you are vastly, comedically overdramatic about the idea of a Like button. And it really is deserving of a skit.

It won’t change much of anything besides cutting down on some redundant responses. Heck—you’ll still be allowed to post those comments anyway—no one said you can’t. But for those who would RATHER just simply select something in accordance to “I AGREE” or “GOOD JOB”, without feeling the need to bring something more to the table, well there ya go.

I’ve been on social media since 2002—have over 1500 “friends” on Facebook from various walks of life and the various hobbies and interests—roller derby, family, motorcycling, political leanings, local community, art school, grade school, etc. I’m on other platforms as well. They all have this feature. Does it feel nice to get likes? Sure. Am I HURT if a post of mine doesn’t garner thumbs up from 10% of my friend list? Ugh, it may be a bummer, but I’ve never put enough stock in the idea to let it seriously affect me. I think a few of you feel this little space on the web is bigger than it is; that’s not a knock on what Luap and everyone in the community have created, as it’s still my favorite Guzzi community space to visit for valuable knowledge, but moreso a reminder that at the end of the day, there are bigger forums, bigger brands, and bigger issues in life. Nobody’s going to get hurt or change their personal communicating scheme for public discourse…not unless the number of likes begins to gain monetary value, heh.

Even still—who cares if someone DOES post for “LIKES”? Posting for positive reinforcement ALREADY OCCURS on this forum with members constantly sharing lots of non-Guzzi content that the mods/admins have long ago requested that we NOT post. So—clicking little radio buttons that simply show support without forcing everyone to read another comment… it’s THOSE comments that just waste a little space and a little bit of people’s time. And you know what—it’s ok, because they’ll still occur because men often feel the need to be heard, even if we don’t have much to offer, amiright? But some people want to just quietly share support, without noise or adding another drowning voice to the crowd.

How people are against such a stupidly simple feature…with such poor excuses at that…is mind-boggling.

This ain’t AI or EV or some forced-government bill, folks. Your livelihoods won’t be negatively affected like you pretend it will.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Huzo on February 12, 2024, 01:41:25 PM
Jeez mate.
I’d love to see the bits you edited out… :popcorn:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: n3303j on February 12, 2024, 02:11:50 PM
This is what happens in the middle of February if you don't have a good old solid "oil discussion" to fall back on.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Tom H on February 12, 2024, 02:25:14 PM
This is what happens in the middle of February if you don't have a good old solid "oil discussion" to fall back on.

 :thumb: (closest I could get to a Like)

Tom
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Huzo on February 12, 2024, 02:28:30 PM
This is what happens in the middle of February if you don't have a good old solid "oil discussion" to fall back on.
Yeah, those oil discussions..
They’re a slippery slope.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: coast range rider on February 12, 2024, 02:46:14 PM
This is what happens in the middle of February if you don't have a good old solid "oil discussion" to fall back on.
:laugh:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 12, 2024, 05:11:45 PM

- Like -

OMG!

today, I am truly studying at the feet of the master!   :bow: :bow:

I just learned, that if you push the "L" key, and then push the "I" key, and then push the "K" key, and then push the "E" key...... there really is no need for a "LIKE" button!!!

Hopefully not the last thing I will learn on this Forum!

"You become the slave of all those from whom you seek approval!"
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 12, 2024, 05:20:09 PM

It’s closely related to a concept called “ fundamental attribution error “ where it’s faster to attribute a person’s motives to their personality rather than other external influences resulting in conflict between strangers. Here is more https://effectiviology.com/fundamental-attribution-error/
The lack of visual feedback make things like road rage and internet squabbling more likely.

Thank you very much.  I love theories that explain or explore human behavior. 

I still remember the day when I read Viktor Frankl's statement:  "Between stimulus and response, man has the ability to choose!"  From his book Man's Search for Meaning.

The unhappiest adults I have ever met are those who do not realize that they voluntarily choose to be offended, rather than simply choosing another interpretation of any given situation.  Not at all, unlike the emotional immaturity of children.

Lack of face to face communication stimulates the imagination.  The internet is loaded with inkblots!!

If you have not read it, I suspect you will enjoy Mediations by Marcus Aurelius.  I prefer the translation by Maxwell Staniforth.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 12, 2024, 05:25:54 PM
Yeah, those oil discussions..
They’re a slippery slope.

Maybe or maybe not.  Depends on what kind of oil you use......
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: bikeridertim on February 12, 2024, 06:35:37 PM
I like the idea, but I've been here for years without it and will stay with or without it.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Kev m on February 12, 2024, 06:46:41 PM
Yet you did not Kev.
Why was your initial tendancy biased towards “staying silent…”

It's not a particularly important issue to me, and I don't spend much time here anymore.

That said I continue to be amazed that something so harmless could inspire such angst in some.

Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Turin on February 12, 2024, 07:02:04 PM
If it limits needless posts, then it might be okay.

I would prefer that this forum not become like facebook or other social media platforms. The whoring for approval or "likes" can end up being tedious.
 
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: PJPR01 on February 12, 2024, 09:01:01 PM
Adding a Like Button may start to draw in the under 50 crowd and given that there are only 200 donors out of the 7000 or so who regularly frequent this site, maybe modernizing a bit will help to create more social interaction.  Who knows...it might or might not, but a like button puts zero burden on moderators or any other oversight that is needed other than implementing a technical change.

For the curmudgeons who will steadfastly refuse to change one single, minor item and modernize a bit, and will steadfastly refuse to support such efforts, they can choose NOT to USE the Like button.  How about that!  As if having the option in some way forces you to use it.

Dirk...100% well written...spot on!

Now...if the like button could be customized with my favorite color and font please...that's all I ask!

:)

Title: Re: Like button
Post by: TN Mark on February 12, 2024, 09:39:32 PM
Click on `Show unread posts since last visit' and you can click 'New' and get directly to the first of the New messages. For long, older threads, you can at least click on the last page.

I have not checked if it is possible to sort the threads from last to oldest message, which would sort what I think you are asking for.

Thank you! So obvious and so easy. Thank you for taking the time to reply. If there was a Like option, I’d have chosen that as well.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 13, 2024, 05:06:33 AM
It's not a particularly important issue to me, and I don't spend much time here anymore.

That said I continue to be amazed that something so harmless could inspire such angst in some.

LIKE

that was easy.

I'm throwing out the idea of an inkblot button, that the button pusher can use, but not define, and the viewer can interpret to mean whatever they wish!!   :grin: :grin:

It's a win-win for those who don't want to clearly define their posts, and those who want to let their imaginations run wild!! 
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: twowheeladdict on February 13, 2024, 07:22:06 AM
If it limits needless posts, then it might be okay.

I would prefer that this forum not become like facebook or other social media platforms. The whoring for approval or "likes" can end up being tedious.

Another interesting interpretation.

So, when someone shares a ride story with photos there will be those who appreciate it and those who believe it is attention seeking.  one might assume that some would be happy for the person and be inspired to travel, while the other is jealous of the person's ability to document and photograph their travels, or even travel because the reader can no longer, or never has. 

I stopped sharing my travels on this forum because of all the negative jealous remarks. 
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: n3303j on February 13, 2024, 07:54:37 AM
Quote from: twowheeladdict link=topic=120399.msg1876762#msg1876762
[SNIP
I stopped sharing my travels on this forum because of all the negative jealous remarks.
Sad to hear that. Reading others adventures  brings back fond memories or gives me new ideas. After all the purpose of these machines is to facilitate travel.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: fotoguzzi on February 13, 2024, 09:04:57 AM
I think the “ Meh “ a better idea.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: kidsmoke on February 13, 2024, 01:55:04 PM
Sad to hear that. Reading others adventures  brings back fond memories or gives me new ideas. After all the purpose of these machines is to facilitate travel.

this ^^^^^

more about bikes, and why we ride them, and how we keep 'em running.

And I love a like button.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 13, 2024, 07:14:23 PM

Is it too soon to start the discussion of what the "Like" button should look like?

Enquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: faffi on February 14, 2024, 04:48:21 AM
Thank you! So obvious and so easy. Thank you for taking the time to reply. If there was a Like option, I’d have chosen that as well.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: faffi on February 14, 2024, 05:00:49 AM
Is it too soon to start the discussion of what the "Like" button should look like?

Enquiring minds want to know!

Oh, so many options :popcorn: I suppose a physical button is not an option these days?

(https://www.getdigital.de/web/img/products/1100x1100/LikeButton-main.220426.webp)
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 14, 2024, 06:01:56 AM
Oh, so many options :popcorn: I suppose a physical button is not an option these days?

(https://www.getdigital.de/web/img/products/1100x1100/LikeButton-main.220426.webp)

I got four keys on my keyboard that currently serve that function.  "L," "I,' "K,' & "E."
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: twowheeladdict on February 14, 2024, 06:05:26 AM
I got four keys on my keyboard that currently serve that function.  "L," "I,' "K,' & "E."

And except for this thread, I have never seen you use them.   :shocked:  :cheesy:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Beowulf on February 14, 2024, 06:21:19 AM
I really enjoy this forum. I think a like button isn’t a bad idea. However I’m good either way as I intend to respond like button or no. I think(which often is my problem) if you want to respond or press a button to show support really won’t change most people’s pattern of behavior.

But thank you all for making this a great place for mechanical as well as just entertaining shenanigans….. late to the discussion as always
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 14, 2024, 07:19:20 AM
And except for this thread, I have never seen you use them.   :shocked:  :cheesy:

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I wasn't sure if anyone else here at WG knew what the word meant....   :wink:

LIKE!
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: n3303j on February 14, 2024, 07:31:56 AM
I think the button should have an auditory component and hepatic feedback as to reward both the user and recipient.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Tom on February 14, 2024, 01:26:31 PM
Don't care.   :tongue: 
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Frulk on February 14, 2024, 07:38:22 PM
Reading this thread I have a mental picture of Luap as the Tzar dragging the Russian peasants screaming and kicking into the next century.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: SIR REAL ED on February 15, 2024, 06:10:16 AM
Reading this thread I have a mental picture of Luap as the Tzar dragging the Russian peasants screaming and kicking into the next century.

Here is my mental picture of Luap, NCDan and the other moderators here at WG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgLLKSL-S1s

Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Ncdan on February 15, 2024, 08:57:00 AM
Here is my mental picture of Luap, NCDan and the other moderators here at WG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgLLKSL-S1s
Not so much these days, thanks to a great group of like minded members.

Dan
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Luap McKeever on April 11, 2024, 08:01:30 AM
I have put this modification in place as of this morning. Enjoy!

Luap
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 11, 2024, 03:00:39 PM
Kewl Luap!

Hey, we're going to Oark for lunch on Sat if you'd like to meet us for a burger  :thumb:
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Huzo on April 12, 2024, 03:30:33 PM
It irks me that young(er) people these days cannot form a sentence without using the “like” word fifteen times.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: geoff in almonte on April 12, 2024, 04:04:22 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Dirk_S on April 12, 2024, 04:46:24 PM
It irks me that young(er) people these days cannot form a sentence without using the “like” word fifteen times.

Watch your ageism there. My 45 year-old roommate uses the word like it’s going out of style. Goes to show the 80s/90s are like, not dead…or something.
Title: Re: Like button
Post by: Huzo on April 12, 2024, 05:22:06 PM
It’s bad enough when they vomit it out in a spoken sentence, but now I see it typed in text….!