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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ff73148 on August 15, 2024, 10:05:04 AM
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Any word on what MG has up their sleeve for 2025?
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Time to bring that V85X out of R&D Hell, perhaps?
Maybe the ‘leaked’ spy shots were so poorly received that Guzzi simply tossed their prototypes into the lake.
Ooooo—how many Moto Guzzis have been dumped in that lake?
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The last time I was there fishing I caught six of them !!!
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A liquid cooled V85 with a sensible seat height.
Analogue clocks.
No TC or fully switchable.
Nicer looking aluminium luggage with top opening.
Larger screen as standard.
Outboard spoke or cast wheel option (tubeless).
Similar or only slightly more power than current V85.
Adaptive cruise control.
Minimal gimmicks.
Also an 850 cc version of the V100.
Not as insect like in styling.
Lower seat.
Same features as the V85.
Retain the TC.
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The obvious model is a new California. It's a huge hole, that is a natural to fill, I would bet money on it.
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The obvious model is a new California. It's a huge hole, that is a natural to fill, I would bet money on it.
C’mon, that’s the safe answer ;) we all know they renewed their California trademark last year.
I KNOW — they’ll reveal the transverse twin-battery e-bike we all didn’t realize we’ve been unconsciously lusting for!
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V85's already been updated for 2025. I'd say next will be a naked V100 and as Chad posted a V1200 California.
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2025 will be the year they finally acknowledge the great impact of Oberdan Bezzi’s prolific contributions to the brand, and to honor the sweat he put into all the custom concepts, they will offer a limited run of V7 E5s with a unique tank color…and color-matching mudguards.
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(https://i.ibb.co/GsWhpRL/20240815-195438.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GsWhpRL)
2025 V85TT
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My first guess is a new Cali model. Im guessing it will be based on the V100 platform in some way. WHat I WISH is coming, is a true sporting V7. Simplicity of the current V7, but with better suspension and brakes. I know with the V100 models, the old aircooled twins might be a bit of a dead end, but it would be nice to see a true V7 racer hit the market.
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Once again my $.02 . Don’t forget any Guzzi fever dreams MUST be green lighted by Aprilia. Pardon any spelling errors!
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Yes, but will a 125hp (minimum) Guzzi sport in either modern or retro look impact Aprilia sales?
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A 150HP liquid cooled, wet clutched, full faired bagger loaded with all the latest tech and handles like a roller coaster would be awesome :thumb:
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I got one of the Mandellos because I need a lighter bike due to age. A new California would be nice but I am a bit afraid that the weight would probably be piled on it. Although if it were a bit lower, like a V7 then it would probably fit the bill. However I have promised myself no more new bikes, kinda. :evil:
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Just as the small block was to Guzzi big blocks, how about a small block V100? Perhaps a V65 (a la Honda CX650) that is a little lighter, simpler, but water cooled and with 4V could put out as much (or more) power than current V7 850.
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When I asked this question I didn't realize that the dealers don't even have the 2024 models in their showrooms. What gives? I wanted to see the V85 Strada.
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The obvious model is a new California. It's a huge hole, that is a natural to fill, I would bet money on it.
Hope you are right!
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A 150HP liquid cooled, wet clutched, full faired bagger loaded with all the latest tech and handles like a roller coaster would be awesome :thumb:
Absolutely 👍
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A 150HP liquid cooled, wet clutched, full faired bagger loaded with all the latest tech and handles like a roller coaster would be awesome :thumb:
I would love to see this as another entry to the Battle of the Baggers races but.....
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I would like to see a new California, if it is lighter. I just got off of my 700+ lbs. 1400 based California (Eldo) and just told my wife that I fear the day when my left leg is no longer strong enough to get if off the sidestand. 550 lbs would be nice. The problem with downsizing that type of bike is that it loses it presence factor. For me, that long, low look, massive block and cylinders and air cooling is what pulls me to the present 1400 version. Probably enough used 1400s for those who really want them. If a new, lighter version will help keep Guzzi viable, I am all for it.
A new Norge would be nice too.
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A V100 modernized Le Mans I replica would be nice.
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When I asked this question I didn't realize that the dealers don't even have the 2024 models in their showrooms. What gives? I wanted to see the V85 Strada.
Hard to bring in 24's when there are lots of unsold 21, 22, 23'S sitting on dealers floors.
Same thing happened with the 98 EV's. They brought in too many. The 2000 year basically didn't exist.
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No 2024 V85s in US, AFAIK...all 2025s due to delays with Euro 5 certification
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You may not yet be able to put a leg over a 24 v85 yet, but most all other 24" model Guzzi are here in the US right now.
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Hard to bring in 24's when there are lots of unsold 21, 22, 23'S sitting on dealers floors.
Same thing happened with the 98 EV's. They brought in too many. The 2000 year basically didn't exist.
I always wondered about that. Looking for Guzzis years ago, I found a TON of 98's, and maybe a 99 or two...then a lot of 02's.. Seemed like vary few inbetween.
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I was told that a 250-450cc vertical twin is coming for all the young Guzzi riders.
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I was told that a 250-450cc vertical twin is coming for all the young Guzzi riders.
A 450 twin with 35-40 hp, 270-degree crank throws, shaft drive, and a wet weight of no more than 350 lb would be something I'd eagerly consider buying.
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A liquid cooled V85 with a sensible seat height.
Analogue clocks.
No TC or fully switchable.
Nicer looking aluminium luggage with top opening.
Larger screen as standard.
Outboard spoke or cast wheel option (tubeless).
Similar or only slightly more power than current V85.
Adaptive cruise control.
They need to hire you!
Minimal gimmicks.
Also an 850 cc version of the V100.
Not as insect like in styling.
Lower seat.
Same features as the V85.
Retain the TC.
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Bold. New. Graphics.
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2025 will be the year they finally acknowledge the great impact of Oberdan Bezzi’s prolific contributions to the brand
:laugh:
LOL. That guy has no shame.
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New vertical twin? Here ya go, Steve-
https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/moto-guzzi-retro-roadster-spy-shots/
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New vertical twin? Here ya go, Steve-
https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/moto-guzzi-retro-roadster-spy-shots/
Why on earth anyone would call that a Guzzi when it has an Aprilia motor—and looks like Aprilia’s response to a Ducati Monster—is beyond me. I think the journalists were drunk when they claimed it’s “a new Guzzi” just because it has a tank with side bulges (because a tank with side bulges is the first thing I think of when I think Guzzi). Anyway, that’s just me as I teeter back and forth between “a Guzzi doesn’t HAVE to be a lateral V-twin” and “bet me it doesn’t.”
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Plastic Indian made ‘Guzzis’ with generic Aprilia engines, marketed to the third world, would not be a value producing use of the marque.
On the other hand almost anything Piaggio does makes me feel unwell, so why should this be any different?
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Kawasaki and Suzuki shared the DL1000 engine and also a 450 MX engine some years ago. In the car industri, there are lots of brands using the same engine. And many Guzzis were branded that, but featuring Benelli designed engines. So I do not see the Aprilia engine as a deal-breaker.
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In my other hobby which is audio, except for a few boutique makers in America, Europe and wealthier parts of Asia, most products under $10,000 may be designed in their home country, but are made in lower cost Asian countries. It simply comes down to price competition and costs of production. So, no reason why motorcycles should be any different. Don't most of the Birt Bikes now come from factories in Asia? If MG hopes to lure in younger riders, it has to offer bikes they can afford, just no way around it. This doesn't mean I love the idea, but just acknowledging the reality.