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Title: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: SemperVee on September 23, 2024, 04:36:02 PM
 Replaced my oil pressure switch but struggling to re install the air box and snorkels!!   Did search and not found anything that helps so far?

 I got it out, it must go back in, but apparently not.  Snokels off during install?   Right side or left wide first?   Grrrrrr....  Thanks for any insight or tricks to reinstall.   It is 70 degrees out and everything is pliable.  Yes I put some silicon lube on snorkels to fit to TB's but to no success..
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: Huzo on September 23, 2024, 05:03:00 PM
Make sure you have the solid fuel line out of the way. Leave the snorkels on or you’ll inherit air leaks.
When you’re sure that the ancillary bits and pieces are out of the way, start wobbling the box into position, while squeezing the snorkels down flat.
The large wiring loom that runs down the right side frame tube, can be problematic, try to EASE that out of the way a bit.
Do not forget to hook up the air line that goes to the stepper motor from the bottom of the air box.
I’ve had mine off many times and I find that removing the clips that secure it to the TB’s, is well worthwhile.
Rubber grease is advantageous around the interior mating surface of the snorkels.
Once you have the box in place, run you finger around the junction of the snorkel and TB, to make sure the throttle bodies have entered fully into the ‘box.
Then replace the clips…
It will work.
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: SemperVee on September 23, 2024, 05:19:19 PM
Make sure you have the solid fuel line out of the way. Leave the snorkels on or you’ll inherit air leaks.
When you’re sure that the ancillary bits and pieces are out of the way, start wobbling the box into position, while squeezing the snorkels down flat.
The large wiring loom that runs down the right side frame tube, can be problematic, try to EASE that out of the way a bit.
Do not forget to hook up the air line that goes to the stepper motor from the bottom of the air box.
I’ve had mine off many times and I find that removing the clips that secure it to the TB’s, is well worthwhile.
Rubber grease is advantageous around the interior mating surface of the snorkels.
Once you have the box in place, run you finger around the junction of the snorkel and TB, to make sure the throttle bodies have entered fully into the ‘box.
Then replace the clips…
It will work.

Thanks Peter for the suggestions and details. ... Ai has no help when it comes to greasy hands and mechanics.  I'm printing out your directions to take with me to the garage!!  Grrrrrr.....
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: Huzo on September 23, 2024, 06:36:13 PM
No worries.
Also make damn sure you have the little wire that plugs onto the airbox air temp sensor at the top, (I think that’s what it is…), up and away to the side while fitting the ‘box.
You will curse the day you were born if you refit the whole shooting match, only to find you have to take it all off again because that wire and plug is sitting under the box..!
And no…It won’t thread up past the side between the frame rail and the ‘box.
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: SemperVee on September 23, 2024, 08:13:31 PM
All back together with one hose left over,  Crankcase vent? Transmission vent?  *But to what?  Hose way in the back exiting from the top of the rear see as looking past the brake resovoir. See picture I hope coming thru.
(https://i.ibb.co/8NLB3bc/trans-missino-hose.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8NLB3bc)


Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: guzzisteve on September 23, 2024, 10:10:17 PM
Did you put hose on trans breather ? It winds up on top of airbox and goes through a gap on the side. Is that the hose?
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: Huzo on September 23, 2024, 11:42:00 PM
If it’s the one I’m thinking then it’s the drain for the oil mist leftovers.
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: SemperVee on September 24, 2024, 12:40:47 AM
  The hose is black and on top of the Transmission gear box so I routed it down towards the ground or does it connect to something I am missing?

(https://i.ibb.co/bmbCYTF/IMG-2984.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bmbCYTF)
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: SemperVee on September 24, 2024, 01:05:17 AM
Did you put hose on trans breather ? It winds up on top of airbox and goes through a gap on the side. Is that the hose?

I don't know?   It connects to the top of the gear box?   I have the rear clear hose connected Left rear,  and the front 1/2 inch black hose connected to the air box at the bottom  center fitting. All other items and hoses seem to be placed well.  It is only this long 5/16ths black hose on the top of the gear box I am wondering about?  How it ended upside, perhaps I pulled it up with the air box and snorkels being pulled up and out?

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Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: theoneandonlymin on September 24, 2024, 08:00:03 AM
Is it from the airbox drain at the rear of the box ?
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: Huzo on September 24, 2024, 08:51:48 AM
There is a 5/16” hose on mine that comes out of the top of the gearbox and just runs up to under the tank and vents to atmosphere.
Always has…. :huh:
Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: SemperVee on September 24, 2024, 09:06:42 AM
There is a 5/16” hose on mine that comes out of the top of the gearbox and just runs up to under the tank and vents to atmosphere.
Always has…. :huh:

Yes! * Without online help I fear what would happen to our "labor of love" keeping our beloved Guzzi's alive and ticking.  Mentoring others as we have been mentored.  Thanks Peter.  The pics finally came thru showing the hose.  I was dangling loose and I knew not where to place it!

Title: Re: AIR Box Frustration
Post by: Huzo on September 24, 2024, 10:09:26 AM
was dangling loose and I knew not where to place it!
A hundred lines and I can’t use one of them….
Touche’ Sir…!