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Title: ECU flash, red triangle?
Post by: old head on October 19, 2024, 01:49:32 PM
2006 Breva 1100.
it started hesitating and what I thought was starving for fuel around 4000 rpm, and sometimes would die at idle.  it will throttle through the hesitation and run up to 7000 with a slight hesitation,  4000 is the worst.
changed out the fuel filter, it was pretty dirty, but it wasn't stopped up.

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sock looked good, there wasn't any noticeable amount of trash in the gas when I drained it. 
put fresh gas back in the tank, fired it up and went for a ride.  Seemed fine for the first few minutes, then I noticed hesitation at 4000, and it died at a stop.  started right up and proceeded back to the house.  It died again at a light while ideling, but started right up.
running fine then it died, and I got the red triangle and the ECU flash on the screen,  no crank, no sweep, just dead.
I disconnected the battery, waited a few minutes, recoonected battery, it fired up and I drove it home.  no red triangle or ECU flash.

I am at a loss.

about 60k miles, original owner, has been rock solid reliable. 
I put a new alternator belt on about 500 miles ago, fairly new plugs, air filter seems good. 
it has 1200 program for pinging, that was about 15 years ago, been running fine.
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I rarely run ethanol gas,

the screen is very faint, so will need it get darker before I can read the screen for error codes, but most likely none since I disconnected the battery.

Old Head

Title: Re: ECU flash, red triangle?
Post by: SemperVee on October 19, 2024, 03:46:20 PM

 Can you go into Diagnostics to check what the bad code is?   Some are ECU error codes and some are dashboard  Errors.  that might give you a clue to what is going on for how to proceed.
Title: Re: ECU flash, red triangle?
Post by: guzzisteve on October 19, 2024, 04:44:33 PM
If you got the ECU disconnect I would check the ground wire & both pin connectors on ECU Clean w/deOxit or something good. I hope you put a new metal filter in it. I would find someone w/software to check it out.
Title: Re: ECU flash, red triangle?
Post by: tris on October 20, 2024, 01:23:55 AM
Check the crank sensor

My old B1100 had a fit and would run but not idle.

The meter readings on the sensor were a bit out if whack IIRC,  but it was definitely swollen when I pulled it.

An automotive pattern part (10th cot of guzzi) returned normal service

Don't loose any shims under the head  :thumb:
Title: Re: ECU flash, red triangle?
Post by: old head on October 23, 2024, 09:22:17 PM

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I don't see any codes triggered on the dash.
the screen is very faint, but I don't see any
I checked ECU
A not filled, M have all x's

and dash errors
none of ACT were indicated.

wouldn't a defective crank sensor throw a code?

yes I put a metal fuel filter, Wix with high pressure clamps and wired the slot so it couldn't back off




Title: Re: ECU flash, red triangle?
Post by: John A on October 24, 2024, 12:28:25 AM
https://youtu.be/pKsGWYPi9Ec?si=y3wjXsIX-5tG2ITC
Here’s a vid on sensors, might help
Title: UPDATE Re: ECU flash, red triangle
Post by: old head on November 16, 2024, 01:58:09 PM
positive cable was loose at the battery, tightened it up.  took for a ride today, 30miles round trip, no ECU errors.

Still hesitates around 4k rpm?
Rani t down till the light came on and filled it up with non ethanol premium, I hope its just bad gas, time will tell