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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: whyrichard on February 06, 2025, 08:48:11 AM
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Hello all,
I am at a crossroads... I need advice from this community...
I got my first Guzzi in Chicago in 2001, a sky blue 1000sp. I have since ridden the thing cross country four times, multiple other tours, disappearing on this sublime machine for months at a time.
11 years ago, I had my first of 3 children.
As I come out of the woods of early fatherhood, I rekindle my motorcycling love. My daily ride is a 2013 Griso.... but my 1000SP was unridden for years... during - I tried to wake it up but the clutch finally bit the dust.
I trailer it to the best vintage Guzzi mechanic in the area, I live in NYC, and this was in CT. It takes them over a year to take a deep dive into it, at which point they tell me:
"It's a mess! It will take maybe 8K to get the clutch, rear main seal, brakes, ... essentially to get it running again. .... to get it 'nice', expect 20k... are you prepared for that???"
No, sadly, I am not!
What should I do?
Thoughts....
Get the thing in the back of my minivan (will it fit in a Honda odyssey?) and bring it to a property in MD that I own. Get some sort of plastic shed, and lock it up as dry as possible... time capsule... until I can wake it up, spend the time and the money to wake up one of the most beloved objects in the world for me... I have very few of such objects....
What do you all think?
Thanks,
Richard
IF the above time capsule plan is advised, where do I find such a thing? Amazon, a tiny plastic shed? Wrap it in a plastic bag???
Thanks all!
keep on riding.
Richard
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If they shot you that big price they really don't want to do the job. Find someone else.
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exactly, get the clutch and seal fixed and ride
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and bleed the brakes :-)
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+1 on what Steve said. They obviously dont really want to work on it,and they shot you a "highball" offer. Get a second opinion.
Rick.
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If they shot you that big price they really don't want to do the job. Find someone else.
That's my vote as well... :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing:
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Unfortunately I can't think of anyone in the NYC area who would work on the bike. Sounds like you don't have the time, space or experience to work on this project but the other option is to contact(406 Vine St, Philadelphia Phone: (215) 922-2214) Spare Parts in Philly, tell them what you have and if they can work on the bike.
Replacing the clutch isn't a difficult job and doing the main seal is wise while you're in there, if you want to take it upon yourself there are plenty of people/youtubes and tutorials to help you get the job done for significantly less money than a shop. And with not a big expense of new tools. Personally, I wouldn't lock it up in a shed in Maryland unless you want to contact Charlie and get on his waiting list.
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I’d trailer it to the second or third best vintage Guzzi mechanic in the area.
I lie. I’d find some auto mechanic or cantankerous BMW airhead mechanic who works out of his shed down the street and bug them.
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You can also try the Guzzi dealer in Brooklyn, don't know anything about them other then visiting the showroom a couple of times but they seemed like a good shop and if they won't work on the bike maybe one of their mechanics might want to do a side job.
Johns Cycle shop in Woodside, Queens might work on the bike as they are an old school shop but mostly British. There is also 6th St. Specials on the Lower East Side but he mostly works on British bikes but both of these shops may know someone who can work on your bike but I'd start with the Guzzi dealer in Brooklyn and Spare Parts would be my next call as they do work on all kinds of Guzzi's.
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I hope that you are not dealing with Hamlin Cycles. Hard to imagine they would give you a price like that nor take a year without fixing it. If its not Hamlin then give them a call and say you need a new clutch. They should be able to give you a ball park number.
Pete
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Jhem on this forum has a really nice one for sale near Madison WI.If interested send him a pm.
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Try to get a hold of Alex at 20th Century Cycles in Oyster Bay. (Billy Joels) shop and museum...he may have a name or two to recommend
somebody a little closer and willing to do the repairs. My$.02.
Paul B :boozing:
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I wonder how nasty the bike looks, being around all that time bout 45yrs old. Might have something to do with the charge to work on the bike.
Got any pics of this SP? I had one for 4yrs & 50K mi & bought it new in 80. My 2nd Guzzi new.
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You have property in Maryland? Go find Charlie Mullendore at Antietam Classic Cycle. Right up your alley for the kind of work you need. Do you want it operational? Or do you want it to look like the day you bought it. Huge price differential.
http://www.antietamclassiccycle.com/ (http://www.antietamclassiccycle.com/)
He's a busy, well-respected guy so don't be in a hurry. Sounds right if you are contemplating long term storage.
Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
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You have property in Maryland? Go find Charlie Mullendore at Antietam Classic Cycle. Right up your alley for the kind of work you need. Do you want it operational? Or do you want it to look like the day you bought it. Huge price differential.
http://www.antietamclassiccycle.com/ (http://www.antietamclassiccycle.com/)
He's a busy, well-respected guy so don't be in a hurry. Sounds right if you are contemplating long term storage.
Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
I appreciate the "shout out", but I currently have at least a years worth of work, maybe more. I am hoping to begin winding down the amount of customer work I take on after that, with an eye on "semi-retiring" so that I can finally work on my own projects.
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Here are some pictures of the bike in question.
(https://i.ibb.co/7JQPJRhC/image000000-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7JQPJRhC)
(https://i.ibb.co/v6rgQgvz/image000000-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v6rgQgvz)
(https://i.ibb.co/20xCVyfj/image000000.jpg) (https://ibb.co/20xCVyfj)
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Here are some pictures of the bike in question.
(https://i.ibb.co/7JQPJRhC/image000000-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7JQPJRhC)
(https://i.ibb.co/v6rgQgvz/image000000-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v6rgQgvz)
(https://i.ibb.co/20xCVyfj/image000000.jpg) (https://ibb.co/20xCVyfj)
This is Richard’s bike? Not what I assumed from his description.
Pete
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Yes. Bike in question. Shop owner is a good friend and doesn't visit or post on this site. As you can see, it needs an incredible amount of time and work. JohnB
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I could get that going and I’m not a real mechanic. I crabbed the frame of 77 convert to change flywheel, and my 1990 cal 3 rear main and clutch. Brakes are easy. Got any friends that are BMW Airhead guys? That expertise translates. Get a book, get a cheap lift and get to work.
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Yup, DIY and a labour of love i.e. time consuming.
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I have an SPNT that has been to eastern Canada,Newfoundland ,Washington and points in between.I bought it back from a dealer I hadsold it to for sentimental reasons like yours.Unfortunately it has some issues and my dream of touring on it again is unrealistic,even though I trust it for Midwest rallies.Buy another one ,nice ones are 5000 or less these days,keep yours as a parts bike.Do you want to spend your limited free time riding or wrenching?Either is rewarding but you sound like a rider more than builder.
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Here are some pictures of the bike in question.
(https://i.ibb.co/7JQPJRhC/image000000-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7JQPJRhC)
(https://i.ibb.co/v6rgQgvz/image000000-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/v6rgQgvz)
(https://i.ibb.co/20xCVyfj/image000000.jpg) (https://ibb.co/20xCVyfj)
The kind of job I really loathe, I can see why the other shop priced it so high. Filthy, already partially disassembled. :undecided:
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I just can't let this go. I'm also a very long time customer of that shop and assisted there every year for quite a while on my bi-annual trips to New England.
It would be helpful if the bike owner mentioned all the facts on this, including the advise he was give when the bike arrived that it's not worth the cost to fix it and the shop recommendation was not to proceed. There is a TON more but I'll leave it right there.
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I know I was envisioning a rider that was parked when the clutch broke. Not a bucket of ratty parts.
Pete
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The kind of job I really loathe, I can see why the other shop priced it so high. Filthy, already partially disassembled. :undecided:
I guessing I figured correctly
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Oh my. Didn't expect as bad as the pictures show. Without being a significant heirloom I wouldn't touch that with a 10 ft. Italian pole. It is well over the hill for any kind of reasonably affordable effort to bring it back. Sorry.
GliderJohn
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Perfect patient for a rat bike project, like the ‘78 R80 I bought on eBay for $1400 “in good condition”:
(https://i.ibb.co/TDZMDCgf/IMG-6732.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TDZMDCgf)
…Of course, mine at least had a complete set of carbs still attached—I cannot look at that one closeup pic of the jet needle dangling on the slide spring without imagining it going BOING! BOING! BOING! as the bike gets pushed around the shop floor.
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You would be much better off buying another good or better bike for a lot less than it would take to rebuild that one. You could part that one out and recoup some of your cost to go towards another bike.
kk
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There's two things going on here: do you need a better bike or do you want to keep this one. From my perspective, this is a perfect bike to work on. It has a lot of history, you enjoyed riding it, and it's paid for. So with a shop manual, a Haynes has worked for me, you can do everything you need to do on this bike. It's not rocket science, cause I've done it. On the other hand, if you don't want to do mechanical work, buy another bike. You don't have to give it to a shop that may not be interested in doing this type of work. They want to make money, not take on a project that doesn't make a profit, so you have to keep that in mind whenever you want to have work done.
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Lessons learned - If your bike looks like you don't give a $hit, you can't expect a shop or anyone else to. Impressions matter. I guarantee you nobody in the back wanted to touch that thing. If you had make an effort to polish that turd, the dealer may feel some sympathy and taken it on.
This is not the place to throw shade at a dealer. In fact, it's against the board rules. You might not have named them directly, but you left clues and made it obvious. That is not a way to endear yourself to members of this board. Remember, it's a really small community.
You need to take that bike home, get some cleaning products, and start scrubbing. Figure where you want to start. Take pictures and post them. I'd start with getting the engine running.
Post questions here. Somebody will pitch in with answers.
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I thought $20k sounded harsh at first but, I can see why now that the pictures are up. :shocked:
Though I'm certain it could be done for much less if DIY-ing but that's a total rebuild job.
Unless you're able/willing to do it yourself, I'd recommend spending the 20 grand (or less) on a new bike and selling that as is to someone who wants a project.
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I don’t know what all the damage is inside (cylinders? bearings, gears, etc.), and I completely get that mechanics don’t want to be sucked into lengthy projects. Definitely should’ve mentioned the bike’s condition to give us a clearer picture.
I still think you could get that fixed up for less, but you’ll certainly have to find the right person who will WANT to dive into that. But if you somehow have the space at your residence in NYC, I’d be making this a project of love. I rebuilt a motor, and I’m not a mechanic; you just have to be thorough, careful (measure twice!), clean. Besides, you already have 3 shop assistants ;)
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I still think you could get that fixed up for less, but you’ll certainly have to find the right person who will WANT to dive into that. But if you somehow have the space at your residence in NYC, I’d be making this a project of love. I rebuilt a motor, and I’m not a mechanic; you just have to be thorough, careful (measure twice!), clean. Besides, you already have 3 shop assistants ;)
Absolutely. DIY your bike. Post questions here. Help is available.
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I used to repair and service old and classic outboards that regular shops wouldn't. Like Harley dealers won't touch anything ten years or older. I had a guy that I had done a couple of motors for. He brought me a 40 HP Mercury that had a reputation as a dog and being troublesome at best. It had also been molested by the guy he bought it from. I told him I didn't want to touch it but he insisted. He also wanted me to install electric starting as it was a pull start. When it was all done with even cobbling up an electric start as original parts were going to be a major expense, not so much the starter itself b as he had been a put all the related components. When I gave him the bill he was livid. I reduced the bill as he was a prior customer. I made less than $3 an hour on that job. The sad part was that before I started on it that I had a 4 cylinder model, a very reliable motor, ready to go that he could have for $200 substantially less than what I finally got.
I understand your connection to the bike but the only way to get it back on the road at a reasonable cost would be to do it yourself.
kk
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Looks like a BIG ole trotline weight to me. Not really even a parts bike. Buy one like it ready to ride, mount that on the wall for sentimental purposes!!!
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This reminds me of a rate sign I’ve seen at cycle repair shops.75/ hour,if you watch 100/ hour,if you worked on it 200/hour.
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I’ll add my btdt….
If you’re serious to keep THAT bike, another option is to buy much better bike as a parts bike. Even if you have to get your original engine/trans rebuilt as a straight forward bench rebuild job by a shop or yourself, you can transplant everything else from a nice bike to your frame and engine. It will still be “your” bike by the vin numbers and foundation of the bike but will be a much faster & easier project to do yourself and probably lots cheaper. Aside from the engine/trans rebuild and any cosmetic stuff, stripping your bike to the frame and then rebuilding it with all of the same parts from a nice bike is a relatively quick project. It isn’t rocket science.
Painting it to be just like your bike is optional, just like how much you fix with 100% new parts along the way vs just making it safe and dependable to ride. Afterwards, you’ll have a complete basket/project bike to sell to recoup a little $$.
A significant percentage of the good used vintage bike parts for sale online nowadays are from bikes that often needed relatively little to make them roadworthy. But parting them out makes far more money than making them rideable. You could probably buy a fairly nice identical SP for $3k-$4k to kit your bike. Buying everything to bring your original parts back to same condition will cost a lot more than that.
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"It's a mess! It will take maybe 8K to get the clutch, rear main seal, brakes, ... essentially to get it running again. .... to get it 'nice', expect 20k... are you prepared for that???"
No, sadly, I am not!
What should I do?
Thoughts....
Thank them and pay them for their time.
It's simply not economical to have a shop work on / restore old cars and motorcycles. You really need to be able to do that work on your own for a motorcycle that's worth only a few thou in good condition.
Let it go. Unless the sentimental attachment is too great, get rid of it and move on.
When I worked at a shop 25-years ago we regularly had to break this kind of bad news to customers. We also ended up with a number of abandoned bikes because the customers didn't want to move forward with the project, or come pick it up.
Finally, we quit taking in those kinds of jobs.
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When I was a service manager at a big Kawasaki, Suzuki motorcycle dealer, I learned to go high on the estimate for these projects. If the customer still wanted to do it, which didn’t happen often, there was a chance we could break even. People refused to believe the man hours involved to make something safe and reliable. It’s the same in aviation, trucking, lawn mowers, etc. The advice of doing it yourself is sound .
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I usually do a restoration project each winter to sell in the spring and tell myself I made a bit of money. In reality I get my out of pocket costs back with a bit of profit NOT INCLUDING labor. I probably make about 10 cents an hour on that. It is a job for a retired person or someone with lots of spare time.
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As an RN, I can tell you some patients cannot be saved...no one can wave a wand and undo years of neglect.
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Long story short, the shop was apparently doing the right thing by accurately assessing would it would take to turn a derelict bike into a fully functioning, SAFE motorcycle. Based on commercial Labor rates and what will be a slew of quality, replacement parts...on a machine that obviously needs everything.
Better to start the project with an accurate, and fully transparent financial assessment. How many horror stories have you heard where instead...a shop takes on a project with a low ball number at the get-go, and then bleeds the owner dry by nickel-and-diming as things start to progress?
Steven Rossi
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You and I both know firsthand that the shop in question is beyond question. Again, before the project even started the owner was advised that the project was ill advised and quite likely much too expensive to pursue.
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To be realistic, the entire matter would have been received MUCH differently by all here if the first post containing the text describing the situation had also included all the pics of a duct-taped gas tank, boxes of loose, rusty neglected parts and more that were posted at a later time. Why that didn’t happen, ?
When the pics were posted, the entire situation made a lot more sense.
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Some missing information....what's the mileage on the bike? Is the clutch really gone or are you guessing? :popcorn:
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To be realistic, the entire matter would have been received MUCH differently by all here if the first post containing the text describing the situation had also included all the pics of a duct-taped gas tank, boxes of loose, rusty neglected parts and more that were posted at a later time. Why that didn’t happen, ?
When the pics were posted, the entire situation made a lot more sense.
You got that right, glad I'm not doing it! I've done my share of like Guzzi's. Dealer must have seen pics.
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You got that right, glad I'm not doing it! I've done my share of like Guzzi's. Dealer must have seen pics.
We had a seemingly continuous parade of bikes like that- including numerous seriously violated iron Sportsters and even a Nuovo Falcone(!)- come through the shop over the years. Big ambitions with little else. We would offer to help the owner do it themselves and avoid giving any kind of valuation or cost to fix it for them. We would only say that it will be a lot more affordable if you do the work than if we do it. Eventually, many would become available for purchase at actual $$value as reality set in and the parts room would be replenished.
Alas, we weren’t able to purchase the Nuovo Falcone before that pile-o-parts moved on to the next owner…
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Quality work costs money.
From the Cycle Garden website:
"Full frame up restorations, which presently average between $25K-40K, depending upon if you provide us with a bike or we pull a bike from our inventory to restore for you. Restorations take upwards of 4-12 months to complete."
$20k is not at all unreasonable for a bike in the condition shown.
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Don't want to be rude or pile on, but that is not a motorcycle anymore, it is a pile of parts.
I get that it has great nostalgia and meaning for you, but it it is a bit unrealistic to drop that off at a motorcycle shop and ask them to restore it with the expectation of a bargain budget, never mind to the shop you infer. They do fantastic top notch work, but not that kind of full restoration. And why would you dump your stuff there for a year?
I'd say keep it and work on it yourself over time. Plenty of parts and knowledge available. Choose between Cosmetic or Mechanical, and start! Doing the cosmetics first has always kept me motivated to stick with the project to completion, but that's just me. Most important is to commit to getting one of the two sorted and back together. Take your time, diagnose, clean, repair, replace.
My version of your Guzzi is my 1979 XS1100 that I have owned since 1984+/- I took it off the road as a daily rider in 1996 with 130K + miles, and did a full restore. Too many miles sentiment and good memories to ever sell it. It has been in storage (dry/climate controlled) since 2013, but hope to wake it up this spring or next. I never let it get to the state your project is in, but I did do a complete down to the frame restore. **Of note, one of the main reasons I wanted to take it off daily riding was that one of the spark plug thread holes are buggered, and the next time I pull that plug the head will likely have to come off. Hope to get to that too as part of bringing her back to life. I changed the plugs every 10K miles, and had changed the other 3 plugs 2-3 times mainly because I didn't have the time or resources.
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perfect basis for a DIY rebuild.
i think a exerienced guzzi mechanic would have it running in a weekend (my personal record is 3,5 hours doing a V7sport clutch)
, but doing it yourself would make a nice learning experience.
with 100 euro/hour labor this will be a expensive bike when done by a mechanic.
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What? It's in parts. The carbs are trash. 3 hours? Come on, man.
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As an RN, I can tell you some patients cannot be saved...no one can wave a wand and undo years of neglect.
Three words…
Fence Post Guzzi
You are asking advice and notional guidance on a subject that is an affair of the heart and as such, practical logic has no value. You don’t want to replace bits with those from a donor bike unless there is absolutely no alternative, the nostalgic nature of this pursuit dictates that you leave hard nosed economics at the door and dive in.
Similar to a human relationship that you wish to build…
If your best buddy constantly looks to you for help, you don’t dump him and get an “easier” one. When my Norge that has carried me over hundreds of mountain passes in Europe (and sat in warehouses for months on end waiting for me to arrive), dumped it’s preload in the bevelbox and shredded the internals, there where two main alternatives.
Buy another on e bay and hope for the best, or take the offer by Pete Roper to rebuild it with no guarantee of success. He and Michael worked with skilled precision and gave it new life 40,000 km back and I love it more than ever.
I think of their dedication when I look at it, there is more inside there than mechanical internals.
It does not have a “new” bevelbox…
It is now “my new bevelbox” and holds memories that cannot be bought with money.
The value of this bike will be a function of what it took you to bring it back.
Take the words of the great man who said…
“We choose to do these and the other things…
Not because they are easy, but because they are hard…”
THAT is why one country gets to the Moon and the others are too scared to commit to trying…
I’ll finish where I started.
Search “Fence Post Guzzi…”
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What? It's in parts. The carbs are trash. 3 hours? Come on, man.
3,5 hours just for the clutch , and a weekend for the rest , not sure what part you missed
I cant judge the condition of the carbs from the picture , apparently you can.
my crystal ball is broken.
but reassembling them with a rebuild kit is not going to take ages.
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Well, if you can rebuild carbs with completely worn out bores and get it to idle you're better than me.
Again, one of the most respected Guzzi mechanics in the USA recommended the project not go forward due to time needed and expense but you'll do it in a weekend.
Open a shop then.
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+1 what Turin said above .... clean that baby up, and get the parts organized,and in order. :thumb:
Rick.
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You are asking advice and notional guidance on a subject that is an affair of the heart and as such, practical logic has no value.
It is now “my new bevelbox” and holds memories that cannot be bought with money.
Solid advice.
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Well, if you can rebuild carbs with completely worn out bores and get it to idle you're better than me.
Again, one of the most respected Guzzi mechanics in the USA recommended the project not go forward due to time needed and expense but you'll do it in a weekend.
Open a shop then.
whatever , if you can spot worn out bores without even a picture of the carbs you are way better than me.
the thing was taken off the road for a clutch issue.
i said to have it riding in a weekend , not a complete rebuild or a museum quality restoration.
ive never had a dealer work on my guzzis, curently own 10 guzzis.
financially the project makes no sense if you outsource the job, there is a couple of thousend euro of parts involved.
Any mechanic hates to work on vehicles where the owner made a start and gave up.
as a DIY project , and if the bike has sentimental value i cant see the problem.
these bikes are easy to work on.
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Just do it Man and take us with you on your journey.
It doesn’t matter if you over capitalise on something like this. All the refuell neck rubbing from the armchair economists can go in the bin…
Start the journey, enjoy the ride and make new memories from the old ones.
I’m always amazed at how guys can spend a lifetime buying, selling and back trading bikes, not once thinking about the tens of thousands of dollars they’ve pissed up against the wall, only to end up with something that is worth a fraction of their total outlay.
I did @ 15,000 km trip around Australia on a CT 110 Honda, when I had a V85 and a Norge at home in the shed. I did it BECAUSE it was stupid, the sillier it is the better it feels.
Ignore them all and just jump in, the best threads on this site are born from ventures like this…. :bow: :thumb: :popcorn:
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Just do it Man and take us with you on your journey…
After this pile-on, I’ll be surprised if the OP rears their head to even ‘like’ a post on here ever again. But I’m rooting for ‘em…so long as there’s been a small lesson learned in humility ;)
…sure would be the perfect bike for Fred Flintstone.
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After this pile-on, I’ll be surprised if the OP rears their head to even ‘like’ a post on here ever again. But I’m rooting for ‘em…so long as there’s been a small lesson learned in humility ;)
…sure would be the perfect bike for Fred Flintstone.
Maybe it will help him to have a little more btdt support…
Aside from the existing old paint on gas tank, my V7 Sport was in comparable condition to the OP’s bike when I got it- abandoned & neglected with stuck engine, rat nest wiring, much disassembled in marginal condition and scattered all over the storage unit. we hunted through literally every box in the place to find most of the missing parts. Then I redid it myself with very little direct assistance or any previous Guzzi experience. I made mistakes and learned a lot. It’s been my favorite bike ever since I rebuilt it without exception, long after so many other bikes came & went.
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More recently, much of 2024 was spent chasing parts to redo this very rough 1968 Ducati 350 Desmo twin filler. Most of what I need is now here to address the restoration when I have time. It isn’t a very budget-friendly or practical project, but I’m thrilled to have it and to have the chance to do it..
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Your bike, your rules.
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I've seen all the pics, talked with the mechanic, and more.
Like has been said many times, he was advised to not proceed. It's not like the shop doesn't want the work-it's just too far gone.
Have at it however you want.
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I don't want to pile on but I rebuilt an old Yamaha three winters ago. After I finished I realized it wasn't the bike I remember from my younger years. I sold it shortly afterwards and lost my azz but I was glad to see it gone and got a portion of my money back, labor not included. But your choice, just dive in if it means that much to you. You will learn a lot and discover a lot of parts sources.
kk
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I have a fully assembled 1980 1000SP that was repainted and has had a lot of work performed that I want to sell, you would be way ahead…
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^^ This
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I had help and it took 5 years, but anything is doable.
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I started with these parts on the 76 LeMans build.
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Then little by little…
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Mother of Pearl !! :drool:
The only Goose prettier than my GRiSO
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Well done,sir. :thumb:
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^^ Be still, my heart :drool:
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^^ Amazing what you can achieve with the cash, resources (engine stand etc.) and space to work with/in.
Looks fab. though. :thumb:
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^^ Amazing what you can achieve with the cash, resources (engine stand etc.) and space to work with/in.
Looks fab. though. :thumb:
Thanks. Other than the original cost of the bike($3,500), I have no idea how much money I spent on the whole project. The painting and powder coating was less than $1,000 bucks but after that it was just a steady stream of parts from MG Cycle, Greg Bender,etc.etc....
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Do not start keeping track. :tongue: I started doing that with my latest project. Even with buying parts at the local bike salvage yard and e-bay, sH!t gets expensive quick.
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We went through the same thing with the SP, a constant steady stream of parts, paint etc. I’m so upside down in it but it is now a wonderful machine to ride.
(https://i.ibb.co/d06dTrP9/IMG-0920.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d06dTrP9)
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Lovely SP. Any more pictures?
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Same way with my T-3 but overall well worth it from all the enjoyment it has brought me over the years and hopefully the years to come.
GliderJohn
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Lovely SP. Any more pictures?
https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=122590.0
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We went through the same thing with the SP, a constant steady stream of parts, paint etc. I’m so upside down it it but it is now a wonderful machine to ride.
(https://i.ibb.co/d06dTrP9/IMG-0920.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d06dTrP9)
Worth it!
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I dunno Richard, with a little elbow grease, that should rub right out :laugh: Hey, somebody had to say it!
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Looks like the OP has 'left the building' whyrichard, why I wonder :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Looks like the OP has 'left the building' whyrichard, why I wonder :evil: :evil: :evil:
yeah. last active Feb. 6th.
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Was a fine welcome. Not surprising. Seems to happen around here.
T d F
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I haven’t grasped what the message is, was he treated badly ?
Seemed like a reasonable percentage of the comments were supportive.
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He only made a few posts and did not get the answer he wanted. Yet the thread goes on & on. Happens a lot on here. Pages & pages of BS just to talk.
Welcome to the BONFIRE, crack a beer!
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He only made a few posts and did not get the answer he wanted. Yet the thread goes on & on. Happens a lot on here. Pages & pages of BS just to talk.
Welcome to the BONFIRE, crack a beer!
Ok thanks.
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It's all of us Huzo - me too and that's what make forums go
Maybe the OP will be back to tell us what he did.