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Title: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Skysailor64 on March 03, 2025, 03:43:10 PM
Looking for a side stand foot enlarger to fit my 2020 California 1400 touring which seems to have a very narrow foot unlike many common bike stands.  My driveway is not paved and this stand sinks into the dirt quite a bit especially when the ground is a bit wet. Anyone found one that works well?
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 03, 2025, 03:45:47 PM
Looking for a side stand foot enlarger to fit my 2020 California 1400 touring which seems to have a very narrow foot unlike many common bike stands.  My driveway is not paved and this stand sinks into the dirt quite a bit especially when the ground is a bit wet. Anyone found one that works well?

Hockey puck and a couple 10-24 screws and nuts
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Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: pehayes on March 03, 2025, 04:02:00 PM
Made me cry to see that kind of abuse to a hockey puck.   :-(

Many places sell cheap/simple sidestand pads.  Buy one and you will quickly forget it and leave it on the ground somewhere.  Add a lanyard so you won't forget and  you can attach it temporarily somewhere on  your bike.


Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: kingoffleece on March 03, 2025, 07:55:58 PM
A puck would be bedroom slippers on a runway model.   :evil:
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Skysailor64 on March 03, 2025, 08:11:36 PM
Perazzimx14  That hockey puck solution looks very practical for raising the stand to reduce the lean of the bike.  But I am only looking to keep the stand usable in soft ground.  Thanks for the suggestion though.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: ridingron on March 03, 2025, 08:18:36 PM
A 4 X 4 electrical box cover with a string tied to it. Make the string long enough to tie to the left grip. Put the kick stand up, pull the string up until the cover gets to your hand. Wrap the string around the cover and slip it into your jacket's pocket. For the true Guzzi rider, less than $5.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: bronzestar1 on March 03, 2025, 08:42:32 PM
I second the electrical junction box cover.  Spreads the weight of the sidestand over a much larger area, small enough to fit in your back pocket or in a jacket pocket.  About $2 from the local hardware store. 


(https://i.ibb.co/N6h4f63d/sidestand-support-junction-box-cover.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N6h4f63d)
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 04, 2025, 04:58:20 AM
Perazzimx14  That hockey puck solution looks very practical for raising the stand to reduce the lean of the bike.  But I am only looking to keep the stand usable in soft ground.  Thanks for the suggestion though.

Yes, the puck does add height and for bikes that have excessive lean angles when on the side strand the added height really helps out. If your bike is not an excessive leaner the same principal can be used. Get you a of scrap 1/4" aluminum use a 3" hole saw to drill out a slug and bolt it to the side stand. I tried the enlargener on a string and found it to be a PITA. With the fat foot bolted to the side stand its always where it needs to be and never left behind 

Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: 73 sport on March 04, 2025, 06:13:50 AM
       Side stand pads for soft ground are available on the internet from $1.99 to $25.00. I use the thin hard plastic, they fit in a jacket pocket and they are the cheapest.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 04, 2025, 06:49:03 AM
       Side stand pads for soft ground are available on the internet from $1.99 to $25.00. I use the thin hard plastic, they fit in a jacket pocket and they are the cheapest.

Crushed up beer/soda cans also work and are free so when you inevatiably forget to pick them up your not out anything.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 04, 2025, 07:00:20 AM
Made me cry to see that kind of abuse to a hockey puck.   :-(

Many places sell cheap/simple sidestand pads.  Buy one and you will quickly forget it and leave it on the ground somewhere.  Add a lanyard so you won't forget and  you can attach it temporarily somewhere on  your bike.


Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

What about when you use them for pannier mounts?

12 Hockey pucks - $21

3/4" Router bit - $9 (3 pack at HF)

1-1/4 x 3/16 flat stock - $9

Hardware - $10

Fixture to hold the pucks while the router scarfed them out made from various scraps of wood. Now that I gotten a better of whet it takes I'll make a more permanent one for future projects


(https://i.ibb.co/BKSmyfn1/P1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BKSmyfn1)


Puck with a 1/4" x 1-1/4" channel router'ed into them


(https://i.ibb.co/xKhZzvnH/P2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xKhZzvnH)


Holes drilled now secure the pucks to pannier with 8 x 32 screws and blue locktite


(https://i.ibb.co/HTNkMwnw/P3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HTNkMwnw)


Lay out the interior of the rack and make sure pucks clear the radius. Mark the holes and center punch them to drill. Measure twice drill once.


(https://i.ibb.co/s9m2HCk8/P4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s9m2HCk8)


Cut stays and weld nuts onto them. If you do not have a welder you can through bolt them or drill/tap the stay.


(https://i.ibb.co/FbS0qbkj/P5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FbS0qbkj)


Stays in place and panniers secure


(https://i.ibb.co/qLYgR704/P6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qLYgR704)


Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: bad Chad on March 04, 2025, 08:02:16 AM
That’s what beer cans are for.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Ncdan on March 04, 2025, 08:20:08 AM
Why not just weld a larger pad to the existing pad?
However be sure to unhook battery prior to hooking up welding leads.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Stretch on March 04, 2025, 08:53:32 AM
Quote
Crushed up beer/soda cans also work and are free so when you inevatiably forget to pick them up your not out anything.

THIS reflects the true spirit of traditional Guzzisti...... :laugh:

I have a dirt driveway as well, and keep various scraps of wood around
for the purpose.

                                               -Stretch
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 04, 2025, 09:44:00 AM
THIS reflects the true spirit of traditional Guzzisti...... :laugh:

I have a dirt driveway as well, and keep various scraps of wood around
for the purpose.

                                               -Stretch

When I had my driveway paved a few years ago in anticipation of the soft asphalt I had a sheet metal contractor we use at work sheer me several 6" x 12" pieces of 20ga galvanized to keep scattered about the driveway. Didn;t even ahve to pick them up in winter as they laid flat and the snowblower would not catch them.
 
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Moparnut72 on March 04, 2025, 10:20:24 AM
I was going to make a plate and bolt it to the side stand on my V100 because the foot is kind of small. I started to drill a couple of holes in the foot even being aluminum it as hard as hell, the drill wasn't even touching it. I just got a bit of chromed diamond plate cut it to the size I wanted, drilled a hole in it and attached a string to it. Put it all in my tank bag so it is readily available when I need it. At the national I just put a flattened beer can under it, plenty of those around. :smiley:
kk
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 04, 2025, 10:41:52 AM
I was going to make a plate and bolt it to the side stand on my V100 because the foot is kind of small. I started to drill a couple of holes in the foot even being aluminum it as hard as hell, the drill wasn't even touching it. I just got a bit of chromed diamond plate cut it to the size I wanted, drilled a hole in it and attached a string to it. Put it all in my tank bag so it is readily available when I need it. At the national I just put a flattened beer can under it, plenty of those around. :smiley:
kk

I would think an abandon aluminium can would not stand a chance with a bunch of the red suspender crowd roaming about.



Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Guzzistajohn on March 04, 2025, 02:39:09 PM
       Side stand pads for soft ground are available on the internet from $1.99 to $25.00. I use the thin hard plastic, they fit in a jacket pocket and they are the cheapest.

I do this but I get free ones when I go to a flat track race.

Tie about a 4 foot piece of string to the thing and you can pick it up after getting on the bike.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: frozengoose on March 04, 2025, 09:30:11 PM
When I first got the T, it leaned over so far it looked like it'd fall over by itself, and it had no base so sunk into gravel. At first I just looked for a piece of scrap wood when parked it, then carried a scrap of plywood. Eventually I made several squares, 3-4" on a side and put'em in all my riding jackets. Finally got serious after maybe twenty years and cut out a piece of scrap metal, banana shaped to fit around the exhaust pipe, and welded it to the base of the stand. Didn't sink anymore, but still leaned over too far, so welded a second piece. Lots better now.


(https://i.ibb.co/WWvs93NH/IMG-2329.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WWvs93NH)
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: pehayes on March 04, 2025, 11:01:39 PM
Old School.
My 1946 Guzzi SuperAlce 500 has a humongous sidestand with a nearly 3" disc on the business end.  Designed for desert warfare.  I haven't tried here in California, but I think it would stand up in the snow!

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: SIR REAL ED on March 05, 2025, 05:58:37 AM
Crushed up beer/soda cans also work and are free so when you inevatiably forget to pick them up your not out anything.

After forgetting to pickup the crushed beer can and riding 20 miles down the road, the True Guzzitisti would turn around and ride back to pick it up. 

After all, it is a proven design!  Those don't come around every day....

Crushed beer cans don't grow on trees ya know!   :wink:
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: SIR REAL ED on March 05, 2025, 06:02:24 AM
When I had my driveway paved a few years ago in anticipation of the soft asphalt I had a sheet metal contractor we use at work sheer me several 6" x 12" pieces of 20ga galvanized to keep scattered about the driveway. Didn;t even ahve to pick them up in winter as they laid flat and the snowblower would not catch them.

That is a great idea.

I do the same with a lot of my hand tools and supplies like oil, brake fluid, Deep Creep, carb cleaner, extra nuts and bolts!

The problem is, when i need them, i often have a tough time remembering where they were pre-deployed....
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: SIR REAL ED on March 05, 2025, 06:07:53 AM
What about when you use them for pannier mounts?

12 Hockey pucks - $21

3/4" Router bit - $9 (3 pack at HF)

1-1/4 x 3/16 flat stock - $9

Hardware - $10

Fixture to hold the pucks while the router scarfed them out made from various scraps of wood. Now that I gotten a better of whet it takes I'll make a more permanent one for future projects


(https://i.ibb.co/BKSmyfn1/P1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BKSmyfn1)


Puck with a 1/4" x 1-1/4" channel router'ed into them


(https://i.ibb.co/xKhZzvnH/P2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xKhZzvnH)


Holes drilled now secure the pucks to pannier with 8 x 32 screws and blue locktite


(https://i.ibb.co/HTNkMwnw/P3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HTNkMwnw)


Lay out the interior of the rack and make sure pucks clear the radius. Mark the holes and center punch them to drill. Measure twice drill once.


(https://i.ibb.co/s9m2HCk8/P4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s9m2HCk8)


Cut stays and weld nuts onto them. If you do not have a welder you can through bolt them or drill/tap the stay.


(https://i.ibb.co/FbS0qbkj/P5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FbS0qbkj)


Stays in place and panniers secure


(https://i.ibb.co/qLYgR704/P6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qLYgR704)


Nice!

IIRC, hockey pucks do grow on trees in Pennsylvania.....


Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 05, 2025, 07:56:36 AM
After forgetting to pickup the crushed beer can and riding 20 miles down the road, the True Guzzitisti would turn around and ride back to pick it up. 

After all, it is a proven design!  Those don't come around every day....

Crushed beer cans don't grow on trees ya know!   :wink:

No, They would weigh out the cost of gas verses the value off the can then post on the internet asking everyone’s opinion and after the thread drifted in some obscure direction they would decide to do neither because their flip phone with pay per minute does not have a mapping app to get them back to the location of the can.
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: SIR REAL ED on March 05, 2025, 02:17:39 PM
No, They would weigh out the cost of gas verses the value off the can then post on the internet asking everyone’s opinion and after the thread drifted in some obscure direction they would decide to do neither because their flip phone with pay per minute does not have a mapping app to get them back to the location of the can.

good point.... but if they used the proper weight of motor oil in their flip phone they would get longer battery life....

could be the difference between a great ride and just another story to tell.....
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Tom on March 05, 2025, 02:51:03 PM
I have a 3" section of steel square tube welded onto the foot of the kickstand for my CAL1400T.  My guess is that Frank Wedge of MGNOC had the mod done.  I'm the 4th owner.  Works well and clears the frame & exhaust when retracted.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: mechanicsavant on March 06, 2025, 08:01:15 AM
I made mine out of an old plastic cutting board . Made a template or 2 out of cardboard to check fit when retracted. Then a few machine screws attached it to the sidestand. Got them on both Guzzi’s . Ain’t lost one yet .
Title: Re: Side Stand Foot Pad
Post by: Skysailor64 on March 22, 2025, 01:24:35 PM
Found one that seems to fit and works OK.  It just needed a small mod to make it fit by grinding out the rear of the pad channel to accommodate the length of the stand foot.  Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NFJC265?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1   
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