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Title: MG prices
Post by: Gliderjohn on March 13, 2025, 08:05:08 AM
If considering a new MG or any other brand from Europe you may want to buy soon. Unless something changes looks like starting next month prices may rise significantly.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: rocker59 on March 13, 2025, 08:10:25 AM
If considering a new MG or any other brand from Europe you may want to buy soon. Unless something changes looks like starting next month prices may rise significantly.
GliderJohn

I'm sure everyone is aware of this news, so not sure that this post is needed.

Something to keep in mind is current inventory sitting on dealership floors and in USA warehouses will not be affected.  And that's likely enough inventory to get Moto Guzzi USA through these international trade negotiations...

We'll nuke this thread if is spirals into politics.   :copcar:
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 13, 2025, 08:25:40 AM
The new MG looks pretty cool, but I really wish it had an internal combustion engine, not an electric motor.  :grin: :evil:


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Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: testa_di_formaggio on March 13, 2025, 09:26:21 AM
I'm sure everyone is aware of this news, so not sure that this post is needed.

Something to keep in mind is current inventory sitting on dealership floors and in USA warehouses will not be affected.  And that's likely enough inventory to get Moto Guzzi USA through these international trade negotiations...

We'll nuke this thread if is spirals into politics.   :copcar:

 :whip2:    :violent1:   :rolleyes:   :laugh:

T d F
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Moparnut72 on March 13, 2025, 11:53:24 AM
I worked in a lumber yard. The boss changed prices on lumber almost daily. He priced according to market price. If we bought high and sold low so be it. If the opposite so much the better however it all came out in the end.
kk
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: blackcat on March 13, 2025, 01:13:29 PM
I can't see how raising prices on MG's is going to be a good thing in the long run. BMW can get away with opportunistic pricing given their deep pocketed clientele but that clearly isn't the case with Moto Guzzi.  I do wonder how this will impact the cost of parts though that has a smaller cost impact when talking about individual parts.
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Scott Carpenter on March 13, 2025, 01:21:32 PM
As the great Edward "Ned" Kelly said, "such is life".
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Stretch on March 13, 2025, 03:00:12 PM
"Nothing is either quite so good, or quite so bad as it first appears."

Settle down there, Sparky!   :laugh:   
(No offense intended.)

                                         -Stretch
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: StuCorpe on March 13, 2025, 04:07:03 PM
That sure looks a lot better than the last MG that I owned (79 Midget convertible)!
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Shorty on March 13, 2025, 09:40:14 PM
I admit I don't get out much, but I would have thought that since the hardcore Guzzi customers are getting long in the tooth, sales might already be dismal.
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: SIR REAL ED on March 14, 2025, 05:23:40 AM
I admit I don't get out much, but I would have thought that since the hardcore Guzzi customers are getting long in the tooth, sales might already be dismal.

Or, sales may actually increase, due to the desire for "one last hurrah!"

A couple friends i admire have noted that once in your late 60's, you might only have 10 or 15 "good years" left.  So might as well let the inner child run wild!!!

You can't take it with you.....
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Caffeineo on March 14, 2025, 10:04:19 AM
Or, sales may actually increase, due to the desire for "one last hurrah!"

A couple friends i admire have noted that once in your late 60's, you might only have 10 or 15 "good years" left.  So might as well let the inner child run wild!!!

You can't take it with you.....

I am on my second "last bike" and already have thoughts of another.  :grin:
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 14, 2025, 12:47:14 PM
I am on my second "last bike" and already have thoughts of another.  :grin:

I've had at least 4 or 5 "forever" bikes that have long been sold. I don't even tell myself that lie anymore, just buy and sell as the mood strikes.
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Motormike on March 14, 2025, 12:49:11 PM
I admit I don't get out much, but I would have thought that since the hardcore Guzzi customers are getting long in the tooth, sales might already be dismal.

They pretty much are.  And not just Moto Guzzi.
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Scott Carpenter on March 14, 2025, 01:04:45 PM
I'm buying new this year, so that's 1 at least. And I see more and more V7s on the road.  :grin:
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Bulldog9 on March 15, 2025, 08:26:38 AM
I've had at least 4 or 5 "forever" bikes that have long been sold. I don't even tell myself that lie anymore, just buy and sell as the mood strikes.

I've had no problem with the 'buying' side of the equation, much to SWMBOs dismay, I am failing on the selling side.

Currently at 8 MC and 3 cars plus my DD Truck. I keep saying that I am going to sell, but never get around to it. But, my 'buys' are in the sub 3k category. You could add the last 4 together and break even with a new V7 Sport....

I'm really looking forward to seeing it in person, and am leaning towards selling a few to make space for it, but every time I ride one of the bikes I'm thinking about selling, they run so perfect, and unique and paid for, I balk at the idea.

I can't see a new water cooled Guzzi in my future, but the V7 Sport and V7 10 are very appealing.

The main problem is all of my Guzzi's except the new Norge are in perfect condition and set up exactly as I like. The Norge is getting updates and farkles to tailor it to me and my needs.

The Yamahas have been in storage for...... Gasp 13 years. All prepped properly but still need TLC. The 750 Triple just needs a carb clean and tuneup and tires. My old faithful 1100 needs much more to be done right. Timesert for a seized spark plug, valve guide seals, wiring for advance module, and a few other things. These should keep me occupied for a while.

On the 'tariffs' increased costs issue, my strong suspension is they are a transitory tool and won't last long.

Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Perazzimx14 on March 15, 2025, 08:49:58 AM
I've had no problem with the 'buying' side of the equation, much to SWMBOs dismay, I am failing on the selling side.

Currently at 8 MC and 3 cars plus my DD Truck. I keep saying that I am going to sell, but never get around to it. But, my 'buys' are in the sub 3k category. You could add the last 4 together and break even with a new V7 Sport....

I'm really looking forward to seeing it in person, and am leaning towards selling a few to make space for it, but every time I ride one of the bikes I'm thinking about selling, they run so perfect, and unique and paid for, I balk at the idea.

I can't see a new water cooled Guzzi in my future, but the V7 Sport and V7 10 are very appealing.

The main problem is all of my Guzzi's except the new Norge are in perfect condition and set up exactly as I like. The Norge is getting updates and farkles to tailor it to me and my needs.

The Yamahas have been in storage for...... Gasp 13 years. All prepped properly but still need TLC. The 750 Triple just needs a carb clean and tuneup and tires. My old faithful 1100 needs much more to be done right. Timesert for a seized spark plug, valve guide seals, wiring for advance module, and a few other things. These should keep me occupied for a while.

On the 'tariffs' increased costs issue, my strong suspension is they are a transitory tool and won't last long.

This is why several years ago I self imposed the 1000 mile per year rule. If a bike does not get ridden a 1000 miles in 365 days it gets sold. Makes the hard decision easy and how several of my forever bikes got culled. I used to have 9 bikes 8 of which were registered and insured and one New Years Eve doing my year end mileage compliation I realized some of these bikes got ridden under 50 miles a year. Other a couple hundred and two or three got the lions share fof the mileage (the ones I could easily get out of the garage). It was then I decided that it was senseless to register and insure (cheap to do so in Pennsylvania $18 registeration and $150 +/- per year for insurance) motorcycles I was not using. Originally I loved going out and seeing my hoard of Italian beauties but realized if I want art to look at I'd get pictures and hang on the wall. Motorcycles are made for riding and wearing out not for sitting there unused. I also realized that none of my bikes were one off's so if I ever got the hankering I could buy another. Funny thing is none of my forever bikes once sold have I really wanted back. The rule was implemneted in 2014 and has been enforced and I'm happier for it. It has freed up space and money to buy other bikes to love, ride and sell and  the cycle repeats over an over. Since in 2014 its repeated around 42 times. By the end of they year I hope its 45 or 47 times :thumb:

Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: kingoffleece on March 15, 2025, 09:28:57 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Motormike on March 15, 2025, 09:40:05 AM
Never forget, motorcycle can become millstones overnight.  All it takes is one "I have some bad news" visit to the Dr. office.  Don't find out the hard way like I did.
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: bad Chad on March 15, 2025, 06:45:54 PM
Does MG (Morris Garage) have any connection at all to the original?  Or is it just a famous all name picked up to sell Chinese autos?
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Tusayan on March 15, 2025, 09:35:58 PM
Does MG (Morris Garage) have any connection at all to the original?  Or is it just a famous all name picked up to sell Chinese autos?

The latter.

As USD to Euro exchange rates have varied between parity and 1.3, US retail prices for European motorcycles have never varied to match.  When you would expect US prices to drop because the dollar has risen in value, they don’t, the manufacturer just pockets the money.  When the opposite is true, the prices don’t seem to rise much.  The manufacturers sell into a given market at the price that matches market demand and competition, and they make money anyway - there is a lot of margin relative to their actual cost of production.   I think you will see similar with any tariffs applied, prices may vary but in the end they’ll take what they can get, just like always, while maintaining volume.
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: DoubleGuzzi on March 16, 2025, 07:10:56 AM
As USD to Euro exchange rates have varied between parity and 1.3,..
Short memories? You've had it too good, for too long!
Back before the Millennium, I recall USD to GBP being >1.6, with Euro being about 1.4 (a bit later). Combine that with retail prices that were/are nearly parity, pound for dollar and it shows off the rip-off UK at its worst.
Today, with the added rise in US postal rates, I totally avoid buying from the U.S. - too expensive.
(Long gone are the cheap fly & drive holidays to Florida, that I should've taken at the time but didn't.)
Title: Re: MG prices
Post by: Tusayan on March 16, 2025, 10:00:04 AM
DoubleGuzzi, here is the USD to GBP exchange rate data since the early 70s.  See the massive dip in about 1973?  That was when my parents sold the house in the UK they had built themselves in the 50s, after it being on the market for a year, as the currency value simultaneously decreased before they converted the money to dollars.  Not terribly good timing because it then rebounded for a while  :smiley:   The value of the pound has regardless been on a very long, slow decreasing trajectory for a long time, in the mid-1930s it was $5 USD or so.


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