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Title: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: The-Guzzi on May 25, 2025, 09:23:28 AM
hello all wild guzzi members i bent my front forks on my 2021 V85 TT guzzi and was wondering if there was any other guzzis that were interchangeable looking to by second hand not new at the moment 
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dirk_S on May 25, 2025, 09:35:11 AM
Just the V85 bikes have those forks. Do you need to replace everything, or can you buy individual components?
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Perazzimx14 on May 25, 2025, 09:42:36 AM
Depening on how badly they are bent you may be able to have them straightened. If they are bent bad enough that straightening is not and option you may have also done more damage than meets the eye as in the frame may be racked.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dukedesmo on May 25, 2025, 09:44:04 AM
How badly bent?


Because if it's just the tubes/sliders then they're likely available for not too much cost, I've replaced them before on a couple of different bikes and they were fairly reasonable.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: The-Guzzi on May 25, 2025, 10:04:24 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/8n0QDx8p/IMG-3595.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8n0QDx8p)
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: DoubleGuzzi on May 25, 2025, 10:15:12 AM
Ouch! Nasty. I'd be questioning the yokes straightness too.

Circa £350 for stanchions alone.
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dukedesmo on May 25, 2025, 11:05:19 AM
I think that needs more investigation, I'd be surprised if there's not more damage elsewhere, maybe the headstock/frame?


Good luck.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: The-Guzzi on May 25, 2025, 11:10:29 AM
I think that needs more investigation, I'd be surprised if there's not more damage elsewhere, maybe the headstock/frame?


Good luck.
guzzi dealer said just needs forks and wheel and new exhaust but rather put aftermarket exhaust and tune it then pay 3400$ for new oem exhaust
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 25, 2025, 11:33:16 AM
I agree that the triple trees are most likely bent also.  It would not be prudent of a dealer to determine if the head stock is true without disassembling the front end to perform proper measurements.  If they made this assumption without proper analysis, my trust factor would be very much diminished. 

Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on May 25, 2025, 02:35:05 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/8n0QDx8p/IMG-3595.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8n0QDx8p)


That's bent for sure!
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Cam3512 on May 25, 2025, 03:58:04 PM
Ok, I’ll ask.  Did you hit a tree?
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: The-Guzzi on May 25, 2025, 04:54:15 PM
I agree that the triple trees are most likely bent also.  It would not be prudent of a dealer to determine if the head stock is true without disassembling the front end to perform proper measurements.  If they made this assumption without proper analysis, my trust factor would be very much diminished.
i think ill just buy new triple tree and mybee try and find some used forks in good condition
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 25, 2025, 06:07:21 PM
Damage such as this would quite often result in an insurance write off.  How close is this to being a total loss?
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Perazzimx14 on May 25, 2025, 07:08:59 PM
Damage such as this would quite often result in an insurance write off.  How close it this to being a total loss?

It would all depend on if the bike was insured and/or and insurance claim was made. If this were one of my bikes having full coverage and if a claim was filed the bike would be a total loss. Insurance companies don’t typically fool with frame/structural damage, no matter how minor.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Moparnut72 on May 25, 2025, 07:16:29 PM
And if you did repair it you would be stuck with a salvage title severely reducing the value of the bike.
kk
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: nc43bsa on May 25, 2025, 08:19:43 PM
That'll buff out.   :grin:
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: The-Guzzi on May 25, 2025, 09:55:46 PM
Has anyone seen any full fork setups for sale recently been searching night and day
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: John A on May 26, 2025, 01:12:07 AM
Check especially the lower bearing cup on the triple tree. That will usually deform before the forks bend.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dukedesmo on May 26, 2025, 04:07:07 AM
As above, I don't know about the US but here in the UK, if claimed through insurance, I'm fairly certain that would be a write-off - insurance companies don't take any chances with that kind of damage.


That said, we all know that ins. cos often write things off for minimal damage as they can recoup good money from the salvage and so it may be a straightforward fix if the frame isn't bent or cracked but I'd want the entire front end off for a proper check. 
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 26, 2025, 03:24:35 PM
Has anyone seen any full fork setups for sale recently been searching night and day

The lack of availability on the used market is due to the fact that no one replaces a perfectly good front end on a V85TT.  Wrecked units are taken over by insurance and salvage companies, and guess what will be the most common damage on a wrecked bike...

Finding a good take off front end will be in the same category as finding unicorn dung. 

Belly up to the bar (Guzzi parts counter) and try not to get light headed.   :wink:
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Huzo on May 26, 2025, 07:04:00 PM
Son of a mongoose…!
How did you manage that ? With the force required to do that, you will have to properly check the trueness of the front wheel and as Perrazimx said, the integrity of the outers. Only putting them in a lathe with a dial gauge will do and bear in mind there can be cracks introduced in the castings that are indiscernible to the naked eye.
The components MUST be checked, but you may be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: rocker59 on May 27, 2025, 08:01:36 AM

I'm going to say there is a near 100% chance the steering head and other frame parts are tweaked.  This is a total loss.

V85TTs are sold in the hundreds.  Rare machines. The chances of finding used V85TT fork parts is very close to zero%.  New replacement parts will be $,$$$$ expensive.

If you do replace the bent fork tubes, there is a near 100% chance the bike will be squirrelly going down the road.

This bike is a total loss.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dirk_S on May 27, 2025, 08:10:06 AM
I bought a V7 III via salvage auction that had bent forks and wheel from an accident. When I brought it home, I inspected the frame with my untrained eye, but I’ve also had a bike shop look it over, giving it a thumbs up. I installed new forks—first a set of V7 40mm forks and then these NTX 650 forks. Bike rides fine. What exactly should I be concerned about? Is there damage that is hard to spot?
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: n3303j on May 27, 2025, 08:40:29 AM
Quick test I do if I replaced bent front forks is to measure the wheelbase. If the measured dimension matches the published specifications chances are the head tube is in its original position. Second would be string and level to see if both wheels are parallel vertically and horizontally.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: DoubleGuzzi on May 27, 2025, 09:41:29 AM
The chances of finding used V85TT fork parts is very close to zero%. 
Half the battle:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186994687076
Not cheap though cheaper than new!

Check over for any peripheral damage and convince yourself it's worth the effort/expense..
Fork tubes:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/316032124459
Replacement innards (most of them):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362891217613
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Cam3512 on May 27, 2025, 09:49:04 AM
That’s what insurance is for.  Pay the deductible and get a new bike.
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Moparnut72 on May 27, 2025, 10:00:57 AM
That’s what insurance is for.  Pay the deductible and get a new bike.

That is what I was going to say. If not insured with full coverage, just buy a new bike and part this one out to recover as much as you can. A few years ago I bought a used Harley from a dealer that was lost in a fire less than six months later. I figured I was going to take a hosing but the insurance company made me whole including taxes and registration. I know how much most of us hate insurance companies for obvious reasons but Progressive was great so I always give them a shout out and stay with them.
kk
Title: Re: 2021 V85 TT bent front forks
Post by: Dirk_S on May 27, 2025, 10:28:26 AM
Half the battle:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186994687076
Not cheap though cheaper than new!

And the other half, a hair cheaper:

 https://ebay.us/m/u2pPN4 (https://ebay.us/m/u2pPN4)