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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: nwguy on December 30, 2025, 08:54:13 PM
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Some interesting ideas for motorcycles coming out of China now. Not sure I'd buy any of these yet, but these two from Benda (https://bendamoto.com/products/motorcycles/ (https://bendamoto.com/products/motorcycles/)) are pretty interesting.
The Benda Boxer hybrid; 250cc engine: 62 horsepower and 74 lb-ft (100 Nm) of torque, and a claimed 0 to 60 mph (97 km/h) time of just 3.7 seconds, 392 lb (178 kg),
(https://i.ibb.co/cSNy8gNv/Benda-Boxer0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cSNy8gNv)
(https://i.ibb.co/VFgccX2/Benda-Boxer1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VFgccX2)
The specs no doubt include the force from the electric motor. Don't know where the battery is or what charging times are.
https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/benda-p51/ (https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/benda-p51/)
I like v-twins and this 250cc bobber looks pretty cool:
(https://i.ibb.co/KxMZtqM5/Benda-Bobber0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KxMZtqM5)
https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/benda-bobber-eicma-2024/ (https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/benda-bobber-eicma-2024/)
They're not in the US or European market yet, but maybe they'll follow in the footsteps of CF Moto.
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Benda's distributor, Keeway, is also a distributor for Benelli. Benda has European distribution based out of Austria. In the USA if you happen to be near a Keeway distributor, some of their models made it to the USA market earlier this year, such as the Chinchilla.
https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/benda-motorcycles-available-usa/
https://www.keewayamerica.com/dealer-locator
https://bendamoto.com/global-distributor/
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“What kind of bike is that?”
“Benda”
“What’s the model name?”
“Chinchilla…I also have a Napoleonbob 500…”
“Oh…………I seeeeeeee…..”
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The Guzzi dealer in Prescott, AZ (Powersports Outlet), now carries the BENDA brand... :thumb: :boozing: :cool: :wink:
(https://i.ibb.co/d0cjbpVN/Screenshot-2025-12-31-at-6-22-00-AM.png) (https://ibb.co/d0cjbpVN)
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Looks like the intake runner in the boxer is made with 4" dryer vent.
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Like the Stone,the model names lose something in translation.
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If they want to sell here in the UK, I think they'll need to change the name.
I can't see many admitting to riding a Benda...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfYxYtMqcD4
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Do Chinese made motorcycles not carry the same 100% tariff in the US and Canada as Chinese-built cars?
We have two Chinese-built cars, wife's 2022 Buick Envision and my 2023 Polestar 2 Performance Pack ... both were imported before those tariffs went into effect... I would absolutely buy another Chinese-built vehicle after my experience with these two.
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If they want to sell here in the UK, I think they'll need to change the name.
I can't see many admitting to riding a Benda...
"I am going to ride my motorcycle to the pub...and then go on a huge BENDA!! (LOL) :laugh: :grin: :evil:
- and then, of course, leave the bike and ask for a ride home... :bow: :thumb: :boozing: :cool:
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Honestly they should be focusing on making engines for GP bikes. If they are getting 62 HP with 74 ft/lbs out of a 250cc twin imagine what if they has 750cc more to work with.
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Honestly they should be focusing on making engines for GP bikes. If they are getting 62 HP with 74 ft/lbs out of a 250cc twin imagine what if they has 750cc more to work with.
Just guessing, but that's likely the output of the gasoline engine and electric motor combined.
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I'm a retired USAF transportation officer, and currently work in International Affairs / Foreign Military Sales for the USAF. In no way, shape, or form will I buy a made in China vehicle, regardless of what the brand name is, or how much of a "bargain" it is. The PRC is actively working at destabilizing places all over the world, in both overt (aggressive actions near Taiwan) and covert (Belt and Road Initiatives) ways, and I refuse to directly support those efforts. If I ever see someone on a Chinese bike, my first thought will be, "must not have been able to afford the real thing". Kinda like what I think of people who buy a V6 Camaro or Mustang. To put it another way, if you were of riding age during WWII, would YOU have bought a German or Japanese motorcycle? Same goes for a Chinese one today...
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If I ever see someone on a Chinese bike, my first thought will be, "must not have been able to afford the real thing".
I think that's a large part of their business strategy. Harley-Davidson priced out many new riders, so they have an opportunity to join Royal Enfield in picking up some of the entry level affordable motorcycle market, especially for small cruisers. I can't speak to the quality of Benda, but Chinese built BYD electric cars are often regarded as being higher quality than American built Teslas, and at a lower cost. It carries over to *some* motorcycles as well. Honda's current XR150L has final assembly in Mexico so the bike is said to be made there, but the engine is built by Sundiro Honda in China. Thanks for a few improvements made by Sundiro's R&D, they're more bulletproof than the "real deal" XRs that were built in Japan.
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If I had that Benda Napolean 250 I would call it Nappy B and probably dump it going over some sweet jumps.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvgvcoq2Sc0
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I'm a retired USAF transportation officer, and currently work in International Affairs / Foreign Military Sales for the USAF. In no way, shape, or form will I buy a made in China vehicle, regardless of what the brand name is, or how much of a "bargain" it is. The PRC is actively working at destabilizing places all over the world, in both overt (aggressive actions near Taiwan) and covert (Belt and Road Initiatives) ways, and I refuse to directly support those efforts. If I ever see someone on a Chinese bike, my first thought will be, "must not have been able to afford the real thing". Kinda like what I think of people who buy a V6 Camaro or Mustang. To put it another way, if you were of riding age during WWII, would YOU have bought a German or Japanese motorcycle? Same goes for a Chinese one today...
Interesting. Since you feel so strongly, I wonder how it is you get by? In fact, how are you even getting your notion out to us? Your phone or computer has a extremely high probability of being manufactured in China, and a 100% certainty that it at least contains a large amount of Chinese components.
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I've been waiting for it to start.............. ........
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Let's remain civil here. I've already had reports of this toeing the line of being political. I WILL nuke the whole thread if we can't play nice. Injecting facts over opinion is essential here.
Luap
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I'm a retired USAF transportation officer, and currently work in International Affairs / Foreign Military Sales for the USAF. In no way, shape, or form will I buy a made in China vehicle, regardless of what the brand name is, or how much of a "bargain" it is. The PRC is actively working at destabilizing places all over the world, in both overt (aggressive actions near Taiwan) and covert (Belt and Road Initiatives) ways, and I refuse to directly support those efforts. If I ever see someone on a Chinese bike, my first thought will be, "must not have been able to afford the real thing". Kinda like what I think of people who buy a V6 Camaro or Mustang. To put it another way, if you were of riding age during WWII, would YOU have bought a German or Japanese motorcycle? Same goes for a Chinese one today...
I agree! I really try very hard to avoid anything made in China although that is almost impossible but I put in an effort. Also, I find it highly offensive that they buy an old out of bisness brand name and slap it on a Chinese product. So if one wants to buy Chinese junk to save a few $$ go ahead but just remember that they are NOT our friends but our enemies...Let the flames begin...
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I bought a CF Moto Ibex 450 / MT last March. So far it has been great (as in trouble free), and is a blast to ride.
The KTM influence is apparent throughout.
Cheers!
Craig
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***PRYER TO MAKING ANY FURTHER POST*** scroll back to Luap’s warning of this thread getting to politically oriented.
Any further opinions in regards to “Chinese products being junk”, “tariffs placed on products from other countries” or any other politically motivated post will shut down this thread, as Luap said.
Dan
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Interesting. Since you feel so strongly, I wonder how it is you get by? In fact, how are you even getting your notion out to us? Your phone or computer has a extremely high probability of being manufactured in China, and a 100% certainty that it at least contains a large amount of Chinese components.
Reading comprehension must not be one of your strong suits. I didn't say anything about Chinese PARTS, I said made in China motorcycle, or a Chinese-branded motorcycle. I'm sure there are Chinese PARTS in our beloved Guzzis, but the bikes themselves are not MADE in China, neither are they a Chinese-BRANDED motorcycle.
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Interesting. Since you feel so strongly, I wonder how it is you get by? In fact, how are you even getting your notion out to us? Your phone or computer has a extremely high probability of being manufactured in China, and a 100% certainty that it at least contains a large amount of Chinese components.
Jeez Chad…
That IS a fair point… :popcorn:
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Like the Stone,the model names lose something in translation.
I'm not buying until someone comes out with a model named "the Anchor."
IIRC, the Chevy Nova did not sell well in Spanish speaking countries because "No va" translates into Spanish as "No go."
I might settle for a bike named "An Anvil."
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I bought a CF Moto Ibex 450 / MT last March. So far it has been great (as in trouble free), and is a blast to ride.
The KTM influence is apparent throughout.
Cheers!
Craig
Yep. The world is getting smaller every year.
Lots of OEM's are subcontracting to different manufacturing facilities all over the world.
Their are even selling their own designs. Probably out of necessity, since the shelf life of an innovative design is shorter now than ever before.
Early production models of almost every new, innovative product are purchased by competitors of the OEM.
Much cheaper to buy, disassemble and measure, than to design from scratch.
It has always been like that.
Laverda 750..... Benelli 500 four and 750 six....
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I would like to respond more directly to you Bronzstar1, yet if I did I'm confident this thread would be shut down in short time. It is for me a bit ironic, as I agree with your summation of the PRC's intentions, their Gov blows. Ride on.
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From what I can find, these Benda models are clean sheet builds. Would be interested in any details to the contrary as I enjoy learning about the lineage (and influence) of different motorcycle designs.
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Quote from: SIR REAL ED on Today at 01:34:00 AM (https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=124498.msg1915553#msg1915553)
IIRC, the Chevy Nova did not sell well in Spanish speaking countries because "No va" translates into Spanish as "No go."
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Much like the Rolls-Royce 'Silver Shadow', was originally intended to be named 'Silver Mist' but Mist means Manure (or similar) in German so would have hindered sales there.
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Quote from: JJ on December 31, 2025, 04:48:34 PM (https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=124498.msg1915504#msg1915504)"I am going to ride my motorcycle to the pub...and then go on a huge BENDA!! (LOL) :laugh: :grin: :evil:
- and then, of course, leave the bike and ask for a ride home... :bow: :thumb: :boozing: :cool:
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Possibly but, in English slang Bender is also a a derogatory term for homosexual.
No prejudices here but I think that might limit the appeal somewhat.
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Quote from: JJ on December 31, 2025, 04:48:34 PM (https://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=124498.msg1915504#msg1915504)"I am going to ride my motorcycle to the pub...and then go on a huge BENDA!! (LOL) :laugh: :grin: :evil:
- and then, of course, leave the bike and ask for a ride home... :bow: :thumb: :boozing: :cool:
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Possibly but, in English slang Bender is also a a derogatory term for homosexual.
No prejudices here but I think that might limit the appeal somewhat.
Well, there you go! I did not know that!! :shocked: :rolleyes: :huh: Just another example of how one can learn something new every day on wildguzzi! :wink: :thumb: Thanks, Dukedesmo! :bow: :thumb: :boozing:
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Long ago I heard "Esso" meant poop, shi#t, etc. in Japanese, and that's why they changed their name to "Exxon". I suppose companies are better at doing research into what a proposed name means in foreign languages before deciding on one now. Personally, those names (Benda, Chinchilla, Napoleon Bob) wouldn't be an issue for me if the bike is compelling enough. I love the thought of a 250cc v-twin.