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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: radguzzi on January 08, 2026, 07:55:21 PM
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I have a recently acquired 2008 Norge, 30k miles. I have begun the procedure of start up maintenance, oil and filter, clean the pan etc.
When warming the oil for draining the dash shot this Red Triangle light and the SERVICE light appeared.
Well I have no Owner's Manual but I do have the pdf Service Station Manual. I also do not have the CODE to enter into the dash. The previous owner does not have either the manual or the Code and I have a message into him to ask if could contact the original owner with the hopes that he has it.
The "Resetting the CODE" description below seems to need more than I can provide.
How do I go about entering a CODE and resetting the Red Triangle to make that go away...?
I was able to figure out that the Mode Multi Function Switch to access the Diagnostics but that is as far as I can get.
Appreciate any help here.
Thanks,
Rob
From the Service Manual...
Diagnosis
Changing the CODE
If you know the code, just enter it and then a new code that will be automatically stored in the memory.
If the vehicle is new, the user code is: 00000 Resetting the CODE This function is used to set a new code when the old one is not available; in this case, at least two of the programmed keys have to be inserted in the ignition lock.
After the first key has been inserted, the second one is requested with the following message:INSERT KEY II
If the second key is not inserted within 20 seconds, the operation is finished.
After recognizing the second key, the new code is required with the message:ENTER NEW CODEOnce the operation is finished, the instrument panel goes back to the SET-UP menu.
DIAGNOSIS
Access to this menu (diagnosis functions), for the technical service only, after requesting a service code.
It will read: ENTER THE SERVICE CODE the code is: 28315
The functions in this menu are
• Exit
• ECU errors
• Instrument Panel Errors
• Delete errors
• Reset Service
• Update
• Change Keys
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If you have both keys, you should be able to reset the code with the instructions you posted.
The manuals can be found at Cadre Cycle
https://cadrecycle.com/manuals/manuals/Norge%201200%20USA%202006.pdf (https://cadrecycle.com/manuals/manuals/Norge%201200%20USA%202006.pdf)
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The Norge code is 28315...
You can hold the Mode button to the right for a few seconds or hold it pressed in for a few seconds and that will give you access to the Trip 1, Trip 2 and then eventually the Service menu where you can go in and read the ECU errors.
Most likely the Service message is the Oil Pressure Sensor...but the only way to know for sure is to connect Guzzidiag and read the Faults. It could be also an air/fuel sensor on the airbox.
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You only need the Service Code to read and reset errors. As PJRP said, service code for the Norge is 28315 use the toggle switch to get to the Menu and Service section.
You need both a service code 28315 AND the User/Key Code if you want to change the User/Key Code.
Oil Pressure Switch I use - (Borg Warner) S4065
ENGINE OIL SENSOR INFO
The dashboard will reveal oil pressure faults as well as sensor and other faults. The oil sensor fault is detected with engine stopped and key in on position. This fault is indicated by lighting the warning “service” and will remain lit with engine running. Abnormal oil pressure is indicated with engine running at an rpm higher than 2000 rpm and the sensor conducting (shorted). In this case the fault is indicated by lighting the icon “oilcan”. In both cases codes are stored in the diagnostic memory of the dash.
DASHBOARD ERRORS
DSB 01 Immobiliser fault: key code read but not recognised or key code not read
DSB 02 Key not present or transponder broken
DSB 03 Immobiliser fault: Antenna broken (open or short-circuit)
DSB 04 Immobiliser fault: internal controller fault
DSB 05 Fuel sensor fault
DSB 06 Air temperature sensor fault
DSB 07 Oil sensor fault DSB
DSB 08 Oil pressure fault
ENGINE CONTROL UNIT ERRORS (Computer) The dashboard receives from the central computer only actual faults. Vcc = + 5Volts. Gnd = Ground or Frame C.C. = Component Connector (this is my guess)
ECU Error Code 10 Error throttle valve C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 11 throttle valve C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 14 Engine temperature C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 15 Engine temperature C.C Gnd
ECU Error Code 16 Air temperature C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 17 Air temperature C.C Gnd
ECU Error Code 20 Low battery
ECU Error Code 21 Lambda sensor (O2 Sensor in exhaust)
ECU Error Code 22 Ignition coil 1 C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 23 Ignition coil 1 C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 24 Ignition coil 2 C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 25 Ignition coil 2 C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 26 Injector 1 C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 27 Injector 1 C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 30 Injector 2 C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 31 Injector 2 C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 36 Pump relay
ECU Error Code 37 Local Loop-back
ECU Error Code 44 Relay starter C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 45 Relay starter C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 46 Cannister C.C Vcc
ECU Error Code 47 Cannister C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 50 Battery high
ECU Error Code 51 ECU general
ECU Error Code 54 Instrument panel
ECU Error Code 55 Autoadaptation Tito I
ECU Error Code 56 Vehicle speed
ECU Error Code 60 Stepper C.A.
ECU Error Code 61 Stepper C.C. Vcc
ECU Error Code 62 Stepper C.C. Gnd
ECU Error Code 00 Unknown
The dashboard maintains memory of old errors.
Guzzi Diag Code Faults
P0105 Air pressure sensor - short circuit to positive / open circuit, short circuit to
P0106 Air pressure sensor - short circuit to positive / open circuit, short circuit to neg-
P0107 Air pressure sensor - signal not valid.
P0108 Air pressure sensor - signal not valid.
P0110 Air temperature sensor - open circuit, shorted to positive / shorted to negative.
P0115 Engine temperature sensor - open circuit, shorted to positive / shorted to negative.
P0116 Engine temperature sensor - signal not valid.
P0129 Throttle position sensor - illogical signal.
P0130 Lambda probe - shorted to positive / circuit, shorted to negative.
P0134 Lambda probe - voltage without variation.
P0135 Lambda probe heating - shorted to positive / open circuit, shorted to negative.
P0136 Check the air-fuel ratio / Lambda probe
P0140 Lambda probe heater - voltage without variation.
P0141 Lambda probe heater - shorted to positive / shorted to negative / open circuit.
P0150 Lambda probe - shorted to positive / circuit, shorted to negative.
P0155 Lambda probe heating - shorted to positive / open circuit, shorted to negative.
P0160 Throttle Limp Home self-acquisition P0160 - test failed.
P0161 Throttle mechanical springs self-acquisition - test failed.
P0162 Throttle minimum mechanical position self-acquisition P0162 - test failed.
P0164 Throttle supply voltage during self-acquisition
P0165 Throttle first self-learning NOT performed - test not carried out.
P0166 Throttle control circuit
P0167 Throttle position error - misalignment between control and activation.
P0170 Starter command - shorted to positive
P0180 Throttle Limp Home self-acquisition P0180 - test failed.
P0181 Throttle mechanical spring self-acquisition - test failed.
P0182 Throttle minimum mechanical position self-acquisition - test failed.
P0184 Throttle supply voltage during self-acquisition
P0185 Throttle first self-acquisition NOT performed - test not carried out.
P0186 Throttle control circuit
P0187 Throttle position error - misalignment between control and activation.
P0201 Front injector - shorted to positive / shorted to negative / open circuit.
P0202 Left injector - shorted to positive / shorted to negative / open circuit.
P0204 Injector error
P0210 Error for unexpected intake air in the cylinder manifold - signal not valid.
P0211 Error for unexpected intake air in the cylinder manifold - signal not valid.
P0215 Manifold pressure - pressure too high/pressure
P0216 Manifold pressure - pressure too high/pressure too
P0217 Manifold error - signal not valid.
P0218 Manifold error - signal not valid.
P0230 Fuel pump relay - shorted to positive / shorted to negative / open circuit.
P0336 Engine speed sensor - Synchronism lost
P0351 H.V. Coil - shorted to positive / open circuit or shorted to negative.
P0352 H.V. Coil - shorted to positive / open circuit or shorted to negative
P0410 - Secondary Air System malfunction
P0500 - Sensor/vehicle speed signal
P0501 - Speedo Sensor over maximum limit/ signal not valid.
P0502 - Engine Control Unit (ECU) has detected a different reading of speed between the vehicle speed sensor and the wheel speed sensor.
P0512 - Starter request circuit failed
P0560 - System Voltage Malfunction
P0601 - EPROM Error- circuit not operational.
P0605 - Control Module Fault
P0608 - Control Module VSS Output A Malfunction
P0609 - Control Module VSS Output B Malfunction
P0610 Reset lines error- circuit not operational
P0611 - Fuel Injector Control Module Performance -- **This lives continuously on the Guzzi MIU ECU - unless reset by dealer PADS**
P0650 - Indicator lamp not functioning
P0653 - ECU has detected a high voltage condition from the coil or related.
P1607 - Data file saved (for safety) **Can only be reset by dealers PADS**
P1800 - Variable Air (SAS)
P2158 - Faulty wheel speed or ABS sensor
U0122 - Immobilizer/Key alarm related - corrected on one by replacement of the left side bar switchgear.
***NOW.......... Isn't that worth a $20 donation to the Board? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I have another writeup for how to program your keys and set a new user code.
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I appreciate all the input on this. I am not a luddite but this type of diagnostic troubleshooting is new to me.
Thanks all.
rad__
If you have both keys, you should be able to reset the code with the instructions you posted.
I do not have the keys... Where does one find them...?
Thanks
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The Norge code is 28315...
You can hold the Mode button to the right for a few seconds or hold it pressed in for a few seconds and that will give you access to the Trip 1, Trip 2 and then eventually the Service menu where you can go in and read the ECU errors.
Most likely the Service message is the Oil Pressure Sensor...but the only way to know for sure is to connect Guzzidiag and read the Faults. It could be also an air/fuel sensor on the airbox.
I was able to enter the 28315 however, that does not clear the SERVICE, I did not yet read the ECU Errors, I will do that.
So do I need the Guzzidiag app or program to go any farther...?
Thanks
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You only need the Service Code to read and reset errors. As PJRP said, service code for the Norge is 28315 use the toggle switch to get to the Menu and Service section.
You need both a service code 28315 AND the User/Key Code if you want to change the User/Key Code.
Oil Pressure Switch I use - (Borg Warner) S4065
***NOW.......... Isn't that worth a $20 donation to the Board? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I have another writeup for how to program your keys and set a new user code.
How do I obtain the User/Key Codes if, as in this case, the previous owner must have, I do not...
Another point, after I entered the 28315, I had options to clear errors which did not work, Now, I fully admit that I have no clue what I am doing here but I can follow good, clear instructions well. :laugh:
And I went $5 more than the suggested 20 bucks... :wink:
Thanks,
Rob
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Reading this, I think your confused by KEY CODE and DIAGNOSTIC/SERVICE code.
Key code is to add or change the keys or the USER code for when the key will not work and you need to enter the user code to start the bike. Diagnostic/Service is to get into the dash diagnostics to read and clear codes as well as the SERVICE icon for when you need an oil change.
Hope this helps,
Tom
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I appreciate all the input on this. I am not a luddite but this type of diagnostic troubleshooting is new to me.
Thanks all.
rad__
I do not have the keys... Where does one find them...?
Thanks
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I was able to enter the 28315 however, that does not clear the SERVICE, I did not yet read the ECU Errors, I will do that.
So do I need the Guzzidiag app or program to go any farther...?
Thanks
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How do I obtain the User/Key Codes if, as in this case, the previous owner must have, I do not...
Another point, after I entered the 28315, I had options to clear errors which did not work, Now, I fully admit that I have no clue what I am doing here but I can follow good, clear instructions well. :laugh:
And I went $5 more than the suggested 20 bucks... :wink:
Thanks,
Rob
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Welcome to the club ;-)
Slow down a bit.
If you are getting in with the service code, there are menus to read and clear the error messages. Go ahead in, read and report the codes here. If you are clearing and it is coming back, it is likely the OPS, but best to read and record all the codes.
You ONLY need the user or key code if you plan to change the user code, register keys. 99% is all just the Diagnosis or service code 28315.
In my post I gave a quick way to check on the oil pressure switch which is likely your problem. Best is to read the active codes in the dash and ECY and report back.
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Reading this, I think your confused by KEY CODE and DIAGNOSTIC/SERVICE code.
Key code is to add or change the keys or the USER code for when the key will not work and you need to enter the user code to start the bike. Diagnostic/Service is to get into the dash diagnostics to read and clear codes as well as the SERVICE icon for when you need an oil change.
Hope this helps,
Tom
Hey Tom,
I am indeed a bit confused, possibly making more of this then I need to but, I can learn. I am in hopes to hear from the original owner for the Key(s)...
The engine starts and runs fine.
That Red Triangle has me wondering what it is all about and how to clear it and I will try to obtain and understand the Guzzidiag thing...
If the SERVICE code is (hopefully) for an oil change, I just did that with the filter and would like to clear that as well.
Thanks.
Back soon,
Rob
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Hey Tom,
I am indeed a bit confused, possibly making more of this then I need to but, I can learn. I am in hopes to hear from the original owner for the Key(s)...
The engine starts and runs fine.
That Red Triangle has me wondering what it is all about and how to clear it and I will try to obtain and understand the Guzzidiag thing...
If the SERVICE code is (hopefully) for an oil change, I just did that with the filter and would like to clear that as well.
Thanks.
Back soon,
Rob
The red triangle And service message have nothing to do with needing an oil change. It is an error code And most commonly, is due to as mentioned several times before a bad oil pressure sensor. There's a wrench that pops up for the service reminder.
Using the service code or diagnosis code, you can read what the errors are and clear them.
The user code or a key code again, is only necessary if you want to change the user code or program new keys.
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What Bulldog9 said.....
Guizzidiag for your bike is limited. I may not be using the correct names here, but... Guzzidiag will read the engine ECU, but not the Dash computer.
When I need to clear the Service Icon, I need to use the multifunction switch and go into the dash computer and scroll to what I need.
AS mentioned, you need to use the service code to read the errors in the dash. Again as mentioned, as well as buy Bulldog9, your issue is likely a bad oil pressure sender.
The computer wants to see zero oil pressure at key on and a certain amount with the engine running. If it sees oil pressure a key on, the code is thrown.
If the computer sees zero oil pressure at key on AND zero pressure at a certain rpm, it throws another code number meaning the oil pump is likely bad or the oil pan gasket has failed or the sender is bad.
Hope this helps,
Tom